This article in arstechnica pretty well lays out the case that there are only 2 options to figure out why the US has the worst SC2 record.
Option #1 The US government is grossly incompetent. The HHS budget is larger than the Pentagon budget. With all the resources at their disposal the CDC was not able to produce a decent test for well over a month. The complete lack of a sufficient supply of PPE .This set back efforts at containing the virus. This left us with one strategy, mitigation. We know how that turned out.
Corrective; Heads should roll. Fauci, Redfield, Trump, Pence and the rest of the political apparatchiks should be thrown under numerous buses. Clearly they lack the competence necessary to do their jobs.
Option #2 There was an intentional mishandling of the SC2 virus situation. This is one for conspiracy theories. Big Pharma stands to make the windfall of the century. Lending credence to this is the full court press to develop a vaccine rather than cost effective treatments. This position is buttressed by media coverage of poorly designed studies. The complete dismissal of any positive results for drugs such as HCQ and the scare mongering of the dangers of HCQ. The absolute lying , admitted to by Fauci in regards to masks. The intentional obfuscation on what went wrong with the tests. The possible intention of “culling” the herd of the weakest most dependent. This list is quite extensive and has been elucidated on these pages in great detail.
Corrective; See corrective above. Also add any measures as suitable punishment one might fantasize about.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/cdcs-failed-coronavirus-tests-were-tainted-with-coronavirus-feds-confirm/
Addendum; It just occurred to me there might be an option 2a. The strategy may have been to let it run through the population and burn itself out. It could be the appearance of mishandling was devised to hide the fact that the real strategy was one espoused by Boris Johnson and carried out in Sweden, allow herd immunity to develop.
I wonder how you know what I factored in?
Option one has far less impact.
The misinformation deliberately to protect the dollars is a much bigger issue.
@JoyOnMaui As we have gone along, I have not been able to brush aside the vague notion that my life, my well-being is now dubiously being held hostage for the benefit of those who have clearly, knowingly or not, compromised their immune system due to their lifestyle choices.Absolutely, and so many people don't notice/realize this. If we at least had decent people in charge, the totalitarian advances could be reversed, but in most places this is not the case (not even Trump is necessarily an exception as the MSM/DNC/DS still have a lot of control, as do pro-rioting Democrat cities and states).
I am so happy that you mentioned the nutrient deficient vegan types in particular, I have long felt that they likely lack the proteins (you speak of essential building blocks within the metaphor of constructing a house) necessary to fight a disease such as this one, and here I am, now suffering constraints on my personal liberty just because there are those with an insatiable need to virtue-signal themselves to be better humans because they abstain from eating animal protein. Never mind that they are seriously jeoparizing public health and shunning thousands of generations of elders who knew better, evolving this species to where we are today due to recognizing the benefit animal protein provides to the human organism. Some of the most unhealthy people I know take great pride in their being "vegan".Yep, they tend to think it's only B12 they need to supplement with, but that's just in the short-term. Absorbable protein, saturated fat, and fat-soluble vitamins (A, E, K) are severely lacking in a vegan diet, as one can witness for oneself by observing the many vegan Youtubers who eventually got so sick they felt they truly had no choice but to try animal foods, and they all get better within a single day, even at the cost of losing much of their audience/subscribers. People feel great when adopting a vegan diet, if switching from a terrible diet like the SAD or even the average Western diet, but it only lasts for so long, as it's more like a prolonged fasting than a sustainable diet, for most humans still as of today. A few spiritually-advanced people are able to pull it off, as you start nourishing yourself less with external energy and more with prana and an increased ability to recycle your own energy (when very advanced this is known as breatharianism).
@Base12 The evidence is mounting for Vitamin D deficiency being large causative factor in severity of Covid infections. Tbp, have you seen any of the studies this person refers to? https://orthomolecular.activehosted.com/index.php?action=social&chash=b73ce398c39f506af761d2277d853a92.164&s=fefd45c21bc3a55252a9c7a67da2b16eOh yes, it seems the levels of 25-HO-D in blood directly correlate to disease severity, approximately like this: <20 ng/ml = likely death 20-30 ng/ml = severe, long-term damage 30-40 ng/ml = significant to somewhat severe symptoms, maybe months-long damage / slow recovery of such aspects as sense of smell and taste 40-60 ng/ml = asymptomatic (esp. if young) or near-asymptomatic 60-80 ng/ml = virus? what virus? edit: The highest level that study even contemplates is 100 nmol/L which is only 40 ng/ml, when the actual updated science says 60-80 ng/ml (150-200 nmol/L) is the optimal disease-fighting vitamin D level. And to reach these levels you need lots of sunshine on a daily basis, or 10000-40000 IU daily when correcting an existing deficiency (but 40000+ for weeks requires magnesium sufficiency otherwise you may get calcification effects). Taking only 5000 IU can take you months to reach healthy levels. Taking the RDA of 400-1000 IU (I think it is, depending on your local "health authorities") is hardly a maintenance dose, and does nothing to correct an existing deficiency.
@Mohammed Mast Option #2 There was an intentional mishandling of the SC2 virus situation. This is one for conspiracy theories. Big Pharma stands to make the windfall of the century. Lending credence to this is the full court press to develop a vaccine rather than cost effective treatments. This position is buttressed by media coverage of poorly designed studies. The complete dismissal of any positive results for drugs such as HCQ and the scare mongering of the dangers of HCQ. The absolute lying , admitted to by Fauci in regards to masks. The intentional obfuscation on what went wrong with the tests. The possible intention of "culling" the herd of the weakest most dependent. This list is quite extensive and has been elucidated on these pages in great detail.Everything, any idea you disagree with, can be labeled a conspiracy theory, and that's what criminals and NPCs do, ever since the CIA invented the term to discredit JFK assassination investigators. Trump is guilty of ignorance at the least. He should've done the research to known not to trust Fauci and Redfield. As Robert F. Kennedy Jr explains, the CDC is literally a vaccine company -- which seems to benefit/profit from a pandemic. As researcher Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai points out in this interview with Dr. Mercola, having 7 billion people on a vaccine schedule, at one thousand bucks per person, is 7 trillion dollars of recurring revenue, "a relatively good return on investment".
Well, the word is out on Vitamin D purportedly effecting Covid-19 severity. Several years ago, Life Extention, a supplement and testing company out of Florida, specializing in healthy aging, reported many seniors to have very low levels of vitamin D, many around 20 ng/ml.
Today, an email, contained a warning that in recent LE lab tests, many were showing up with too high levels of 25 hydroxy vitamin D, many 100-140 ng/ml.
As of July 1, Wednesday, all Oregonians inside public places must wear masks. Governor Kate has tried to lead with a gentle hand. Not being a medical person, she has listened too closely to the confusing, flawed recommendations of the authorities. She has tried to appeal to the good sense and kindness of most people. Unfortunately, there are a lot of the other kinds of folks that need to be bopped upside the head with a 2X4. There is going to be kicking and screaming from my red side of the state. We are going into BOOM!! if this is not stopped, now. A church that refused to follow gathering restrictions is responsible for a cluster of nearly 250 cases in a small county, also food processors and large family gatherings.
We were lucky early on. Luck runs out. I think there was something in The New Testament, Satan vs Christ, “thou shall not tempt the Lord thy G*d.”
#patriotswearmasks
Recall prior videos about the novel furin cleavege site on SARS Cov-2. Cathepsin-L is a protease that is involved in cleaving the viral S protein, one of the steps in viral infection of the cell.
CRISPER analysisby a grop of researchers (Yale and other insittutions) identified certain host genes in cultured African green monkey kidney cells that are involved in regulating SARS COv-2 infection. The researchers concluded that certain small molecule inhibitors of Cathepsin-L inhibited infection in cell culture (I’m not clear on what kind of cells were used here).
https://www.immunology.ox.ac.uk/covid-19/covid-19-immunology-literature-reviews/genome-wide-crispr-screen-reveals-host-genes-that-regulate-sars-cov-2-infection
A review by investigators at Brigham and Women’s in Boston suggests that FDA approved drugs that block Cathepsin-L may be useful as treatment. I think this is just based on their mechanisms of action, not clinical data.
They mention several drug classes including chloroquin (I think they mean to include its chemical relatives, like HCQ, as well), some antimicrobials, and interestingly, the red pigment, Astaxanthin, which is an antioxidant like Vitamin C.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163725820301157
They are giving the vaccine to the military as they ENTER phase 3 trials. It almost sounds as though the dosing of the military personnel IS the phase 3 trial. It wouldn’t be the first time military recruits were used as guinea pigs (I mean test subjects). I feel badly for them but I hope it works!
This week I was one of the COVID doctors in the hospital. Before I went on service, I had planned to share my experiences when I got home after my last shift. That didn’t happen because I was mentally and emotionally exhausted after being at the hospital for 15+ hours.
By the time you get to the hospital it is too late for HCQ. It appears this doctor is unaware that HCQ and all antivirals need to be given early or they are useless. He either slept through that part of med school or believes the deeply flawed studies the media is blasting everywhere.
Basically either doctors are guilty of malpractice or are being forced into malpractice by the government. If you show up at a doctors office, urgent care, or ER with Covid symptoms you get tested and wait 24 hours. If it comes back positive you get sent home told to quarantine and if it gets worse you get into a hospital. This is standard of care mandated by the government. There is clinical evidence that HCQ works when administered early along with zinc.
An ECG should be administered to determine QTc interval. If it is 460 or below give HCQ. If it is between 460 and 500 give it but monitor it. If it is over 500 do not give HCQ.
I am not a doctor so how come I know this?
BECAUSE I AM ON MY FUCKING OWN
Impact of coronavirus disease 2019 on pulmonary function in early convalescence phase
More than half of the patients experienced a decrease in respiratory muscle strength. Approximately 29.8% of patients in our study were severe or critical, who had hypoxemia during hospitalization, requiring supplemental oxygen and bed rest, and prolonged bed rest might lead to muscle disorders. In addition, systemic use of corticosteroids might cause steroid myopathy. But when grouped by the administration of steroid, no statistical significance was found in respiratory muscle strength between the glucocorticoid group and the regular group. This result indicated that corticosteroid was not the main cause of respiratory muscle weakness. In fact, there was no difference on declining respiratory muscle strength between severe and non-severe groups. However, the direct effect of virus on respiratory muscles needs further research. In conclusion, impaired diffusing-capacity, respiratory muscle strength decrease, and lung imaging abnormalities were detected in more than half of the COVID-19 patients in early convalescence phase. Compared with non-severe cases, severe patients had a higher incidence of DLCO impairment and encountered more TLC decrease and 6MWD decline. Longer follow-up studies in COVID-19 patients should be performed to investigate the clinical outcome of recovered COVID-19 patients. https://respiratory-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12931-020-01429-6I have never seen anything like this. None of us have. We have no idea what we are doing. We are sharing evidence from small studies that could help and utilizing treatments that we think and hope are helpful. Of course, we also thought hydroxychloroquine was helpful a couple of months ago.The fact that this Doc does not know HCQ does in fact work if given early enough is evidence of a crime against humanity. There exists an entity that literally wants what we hear being described in this post to happen... we need to rally against this enemy. You may not like Donald Trump.. I always kind of nod my head when people call him an asshole, or a narcissist... but you must realize that when it comes to this pandemic, and the potential role of Hydroxychloroquine, The enemy of Donald Trump is the enemy of you, and me, and especially our elderly parents. Let that sink in. Please.
Hey Jim H,
Remember that msnrochny is a hospitalist who does not begin to see patient until they are admitted to the hospital–generally when their oxygenation is so bad that they must have supplemental O2 just to keep a SaO2 above 90% - 92%. They are middle to late stage when HCQ has diminishing returns.
As James Todaro posts:
(Though there was some benefit from later stage COVID treatment in hospitalized patients from HCQ when combined with Zinc in the NY Langone Hospital study…)
This Doc should be pissed as hell that people are dying in the hospital when they could have a very strong chance of never getting there if they had the Zelenko cocktail early… that’s all I am saying. That he doesn’t know this, and in fact parrot’s the MSM propaganda, is very, very sad.
in K
We’re fortunate to have many exceptionally gifted members and some that are probably indeterminate and well down the asymptote of the curve. If we’re going with Fahrenheit, well, it’s not looking good:
The average score on an IQ test is 100. These labels are often given for IQ scores:
- 1 to 24: Profound mental disability
- 25 to 39: Severe mental disability
- 40 to 54: Moderate mental disability
- 55 to 69: Mild mental disability
- 70 to 84: Borderline mental disability
- 85 to 114: Average intelligence
- 115 to 129: Above average or bright
- 130 to 144: Moderately gifted
- 145 to 159: Highly gifted
- 160 to 179: Exceptionally gifted
- 180 and up: Profoundly gifted
The View from the Second World
“Cuba nears total containment after 9 days without new diagnosed cases of CORVID19.”
Cuba’s experience with the pandemic is in total contrast with that of countries like the US where the response reflects its political disunity and a profit maximization medical system. With 30% more population than New York City, Cuba has had only 85 deaths from the disease, while New York has lost 17,000. Even if you contend that Cuban reporting is unreliable, the contrast is so stark that it cannot be ignored.
Cuba has several advantages in combating a pandemic: It is an island where it is relatively easy to close off all access (at the cost of loss of a major source of foreign currency, the tourist industry). It has a centralized command structure and the ability to mobilize or coerce its population. It has twice as many doctors per capita compared to any other country in the world. But most importantly, it has a well developed free public health care system refined by long experience combating hurricanes and viral tropical diseases.
When the US press happens to mention countries that are more successful in combating the pandemic (New Zealand) Cuba is never mentioned. After all Cuba is a Designated Enemy from which nothing good can ever arise.
From Reuters: June 8, 2020
HAVANA (Reuters) -" Reina Paula, a saleswoman at Havana’s La Epoca supermarket, said the same day that a worker tested positive for the coronavirus, local authorities sent the rest of the staff in a fleet of state vehicles to isolation facilities for testing.
Healthcare providers traced their relatives and sent them into quarantine, while state news outlets publicly appealed to anyone who had had close contact with them to come forward to prevent the virus from spreading.
“They followed the clinical steps like a Swiss clock,” said Paula, at home after recovering from the worst of COVID-19, the respiratory disease the novel coronavirus causes.
Those who tested positive were transferred to hospital, where they were given antivirals and immune system boosters, while the others were sent home to quarantine for two weeks.
Paula’s story illustrates the rigorous approach Cuba has taken to curb the coronavirus outbreak - helped by the Caribbean island nation’s preventive, universal and well-staffed healthcare system, centralization and use of coercion.
Doing so was politically vital for Cuba’s ruling Communist Party, which claims the country’s strong healthcare system as a key achievements, even as it has failed to deliver on the economy, partly due to a U.S. trade embargo.
New cases have dropped to less than 10 per day on average from a peak of around 50, and two thirds of the island is virus-free, according to official data.
Monday was the ninth consecutive day with no deaths from COVID-19, while the highly infectious disease continues to rage throughout the Americas.
“We could be shortly closing in on the tail end of the pandemic and entering the phase of recovery from COVID,” President Miguel Diaz-Canel said this weekend.
Like many countries, Cuba closed its borders and schools at the start of the outbreak and urged Cubans to practice social distancing, though that was complicated by large queues outside shops amid growing scarcity.
But Cuba swiftly made face masks obligatory and quarantined large numbers of people rather than just telling them to stay home.
Disobeying pandemic measures carried a fine or even a prison sentence. And the Cuban state has used its monopoly of traditional news media to broadcast trials for such offenses to set an example and educate citizens on the virus.
It has also sent tens of thousands of family doctors, nurses and medical students to homes nationwide daily to conduct screenings, underscoring a strength of the healthcare system, even as tight resources in recent decades have seen hospitals fall into disrepair and more frequent medicine shortages.
Cuba’s top epidemiologist, Francisco Duran, said early detection, hospitalization and the application of experimental treatments - many developed by the country’s own biotech sector - have helped reduce COVID-19’s fatality.
Cuba, with a population of 11 million, has reported 2,200 cases and 83 deaths. That translates to 0.73 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants, according to a Johns Hopkins University tally, slightly above Costa Rica’s 0.20 per 100,000 but far below Brazil’s 17.4.
The success has won plaudits from citizens.
“Once more,” Havana resident Marina Rodriguez said, “our country has shown that despite its difficulties, it is always able to control an epidemic.”