Economic Collapse Approaches

Originally published at: https://peakprosperity.com/economic-collapse-approaches/

I believe an economic crash is now unavoidable for the United States. Let me explain.

The core of my argument rests on the undeniable link between energy consumption, particularly oil, and economic output. When you look at the data, it’s clear: countries with higher GDP consume more oil. This isn’t just a correlation; it’s causation. Every aspect of our economy, from transportation to manufacturing, relies heavily on oil.

Ditto for electricity and GDP. As the saying goes, “There are no low-energy rich countries!”

However, we’re facing a critical issue. The U.S. has been on a debt-fueled growth path, with debt growing much faster than our GDP. This is unsustainable. You can’t indefinitely increase your debt faster than your income, whether you’re a family, a business, or a nation.

The debt-to-GDP ratio for the US has been on a thoroughly unsustainable trajectory for years. Everybody knows this, too. Jerome Powell has testified to this effect in front of the US Senate (2023), and Scott Bessent has said the same thing in May 2025.

 

The Trump administration has essentially given up on fiscal restraint, pushing for policies that will increase federal debt by $2 to $2.5 trillion annually for the next decade. The “Big Beautiful Bill” is a gargantuan heaping of “something for everybody” style deficit spending. Except for the average person. All they have to look forward to is lots of inflation before the dollar keels over entirely.

The Trump administration has abandoned fiscal restraint and is instead betting on economic growth to outpace all the existing + new debt.

But, here’s the catch: as the GDP/energy charts above reveal, economic growth requires energy, and our primary energy source, oil, is hitting a peak. And that’s not just me saying that anymore, now I’ve got the EIA on my side (courtesy of the most recent 2025 STEO report):

The shale oil boom, which many thought disproved peak oil theory, is now showing signs of geological exhaustion. Not a lack of capital, or will power, or cleverness, but plain old boring geology. Major shale basins like the Permian are experiencing declining well productivity, and despite technological advancements, once a field starts to decline, it’s a one-way street.

This peak in oil production isn’t just a blip; it’s a fundamental shift. The implications are vast. If oil production declines, and with it our economic output, how will we manage our colossal debt? The answer isn’t clear, but it’s evident that our current economic models, which assume endless growth, are about to be tested like never before.

We’re entering a new era where energy scarcity could redefine economic stability. This isn’t just about oil; it’s about all forms of energy. Our leaders need to understand this, but there’s a widespread ignorance about energy’s role in our economy.

But the big news is that I think I’ve uncovered another major blind spot in our energy planning, this time on the side of Natural Gas. Hey, one man’s bad news is another man’s terrific investment thesis. That’s in Part II for subscribers…

 

Click here to go to part 2.
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Ive long wondered how here fits this old thing until 80s people had jackets and cars and whatnot that cost like 2k$ a suit and people were happy coz it was very high quality to last easily 30 years with heavy use (avoiding bugs destroying clothing).
Isnt by that logic 10x 200$ suits more energy use than one set? Also cars require huge amount of energy to manufacture, paintjob, amount of purified metals etc.
So is that “old way” more detached from energy use? How to think of this…
We could definitely use more nuanced way of things than “chart goes up, all is fine”.

We need to get all the tools and infrastructure and inputs we will need for the future onto our homesteads, ASAP. I already have a scythe. I need 3 more, and spare blades. I need to stock up on phosphate fertilizer and garden lime, which is what my soil lacks. I need to get a large roll of EPDM roofing membrane so that when my shingles wear out in 20 years, i can protect my home from water intrusion with a new roof membrane. And I need more solar panels and a few batteries.

Of all that, the solar panels and batteries are the least durable, but they’ll help during the transition phase as we go back to hopefully bronze age living. I say bronze age, because forging steel or iron needs higher temps than we can easily provide with a wood fire, I think, and we’re likely to run out of scrap steel from chopped up vehicles at about the same time my roof shingles wear out.

Y’all, at the very least, get your soil tested and find out what it lacks in PH level or NPK nutrients, and stock up on those things so you can grow food. Nitrogen is easy. That’s your pee or manure from your animals. Potassium and PH up can be done with wood ash. But Phosphate and PH down (Sulfur) may need to come from a store, can’t make it at home. I think there is a bit of phosphate in chicken manure.

Food. Water. Shelter. Take care of your soil and your animals and don’t be afraid to work and you’ll have food, though the more and better tools you have, the less work it will be. Water falls from the sky, so have something to catch and hold it, don’t rely on an electric well pump. Shelter… you really need to have something to repair or replace your roof eventually, or your house will rot, and window screen replacement is critical for ventillation without letting bugs in so you can sleep at night in summer.

Fertilizer and soil amendments, garden tools. Roofing stuff. Water catchment and treatment stuff. Get all that while we still can. That’s assuming you’ve already got a place out of town. If you’re in a city, good luck holding on to any of it.

Money? You can’t eat it. It won’t keep rain off your head. Wealth might soon mean garden tools and such, not dollars.

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Are you still thinking of becoming a “Hobby Farmer” in South Africa?

“The Plan”, to the extent that it can even be considered a “Plan”, is to just develop the Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) first before the Chinese and then just Hope that the AGI is Smart Enough and Benevolent Enough to figure out everything in a satisfactory way so that the current Leaders don’t have to take any responsibility for the big huge imbroglio financial and societal “Mess”?

I read in the book “Supremacy” that the early version of ChatGPT was trained on a Data Set consisting of American romance novels and American vampire novels.

I HOPE that they know what they are doing?

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Since this the whole energy story of late is a thinly veiled headlong rush into AI resources, and magically all the leadership from all sides in the US look like deer in headlights, signing BBB (which looks oddly like it was even propagated by AI - I mean who really wrote that and slid the state AI restrictions rider in??), saying they’ve seen the Epstein files and he totally killed himself bro…it has me thinking if the “Thing” Chris has been talking about them seeing and shaking them to their core isn’t a version of Roko’s Basilisk? That would explain the volte-face on all things energy and AI and the bizarre almost slavish AI-uber-alles drive that has taken over the Lumpen Elite.

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I suspect Trump wanted Carney to get win (with his 51st state comments to scare into voting liberal) to drive alberta separation - make alberta a 51st state for the oil/gas.

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I love that Twain quote, it’s one of my all-time favorites! Actually first encountered that concept in the book Speaker for the Dead, but Twain sums it up so elegantly.

Also love the bit on guru style presentations. It troubles me a great deal that people seem so easily taken in by them. I rarely hear anyone point it out though.

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This discussion refers to a minority of humanity and misses the big picture that most people in the world are optimistically looking forward to a better life and using more energy more efficiently.

In almost all areas of technology and energy usage China is way ahead and leading humanity in energy and in most other things. Chinese new coal plants are designed for swing loading to operate when solar is insufficient, solar in the Gobi desert supplies the eastern populated part with dinnertime/evening electricity via 2Mvolt DC transmission lines.

Thorium and other reactors under development. Electricity prices so low that they can follow a strategy of lower efficiency AI server farms to compete in AI. Humongous wealth in the form of goods to trade with Iran, Saudi, Russia in exchange for oil.

Their return on investment for renewables is already lower than oil drilling and their battery technology has changed the game with greater energy return on investment frequently. I just returned from an extended trip to China and the place feels like Japan did in the 1980s or the US in the 1960s.

The biggest problem they complain about is that young people (70% go to college and mostly stem fields) have a big problem getting a job. This is a serious problem and may ignite serious instability I suppose.
But the majority of the planet is looking forward to a better future based on energy and not to a collapse. Large portions of the planet, especially Russia, China, Indonesia, Vietnam, India, most of S America and Africa are improving their lives via enhanced and more intelligent use of energy and are achieving better lives while the oil empire and its banks release their hold on the worlds remaining resources.

The collapse of the American oil empire is not a collapse of humanity and perhaps quite the contrary. The conversion of energy units into comfort and convenience is much more efficient outside of America and Western Europe, which are walling themselves off from very low energy consuming electric vehicles created by low energy manufacturing processes. The Chinese are already ahead of schedule in replacing oil with renewables (see pix). The future of humanity is bright if you get outside of the decaying American oil empire.

I probably wont monitor replies or respond to attacks here. I am at yugeshima com and am focused on fundamental physics and radio at photonradio dot com (ignore the https warning) where I am happy to discuss the double slit experiment etc.

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Good to hear from you! 73, Mike

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MOTS!!!
Hi.
Your energy expertise is always welcome to me. Your knowledge of the goings on over there is trustworthy.

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Good to hear from you MOTS. Always a pleasure.

I agree that the US is on a self-imposed path of self-inflicted wounds. If we were to turn over energy to the engineers and just let them manage it, we’d be far better off.

I will correct the impression left by your energy chart for China which misleads by reporting “installed capacity,” which is not the same thing as “energy supplied.”

After all, how much energy is produced at night by a GW of installed solar?

Because of that presentation style, it makes things like nuclear seem a lot smaller than they actually are to the mix. Here’s a 2020 pie chart of produced power generation:

Finally I might note that China ‘gets’ energy in a way that makes me frankly jealous or envious. Also it doesn’t screw around.

The word is that China is planning to build a hydropower project in Tibet that will be three times larger than the current Three Gorges Dam. Located on the Yarlung Tsangpo River, the project is expected to generate 300 billion kWh of electricity annually(!!), significantly exceeding the Three Gorges Dam’s capacity of 88.2 billion kWh.

I would posit that one does not do this if alternative energy were all that and a plate of cookies.

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Thanks for all these great tips. Thats why i love the free insights in this community. Especially from you folks who are much further down the prep path than i am.

Im getting better and I just harvested my first batch of sprouts. No soil needed so it can be done no matter where you live and be a great nutrient boost to your diet. I got my kit from The Sprouting Company if anyone else is interested. Thanks!

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Well, I am sure the average person totally understands that someone’s gotta pay for Zelensky’s 3 layers of guards when he visits his local bookstore to thumb through a copy of Killing a Tyrant for a photo op.

God forbid John Wick gets to him!

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Those body guards look seriously constipated, I guess, because there are numerous attack scenarios in which they are killed and can’t do anything to prevent or interrupt them. Between Russians and disaffected Ukrainians, everyone is a potential assassin.

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do you if this was in poland or ukraine?

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Oh lol I didnt realize Zelenskyi might be actually in pic somewhere as security dudes cover whole crowd.

Rokos basilisk is a dumb / not interesting idea that gained notoriety for whatever reason.

Cool opinion, bro! I especially liked the part where you articulated your reasons that a legitimately arrived at supposition wasn’t worthy of anyone’s consideration.

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It was made much more irritating by those disclaimers they would precede it with: “this might affect your mental health!!”. I think it was banned by lesswrong too because it was too “disturbing”. It smacks of I love science reddit crowd.

I have a much more disturbing idea of my own for the consideration of the AI enthusiasts. If consciousness is not required for survival, if animals could have brains that work as a computer, what unimaginable level of evil does the creator of this universe have to create pain out of nothing.

I don’t even take that one too seriously but for a while I found it incredibly disturbing.

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