Episode 2: ‘Roof Guy’ Not the Shooter, Tracking ‘Tyler,’ and Debunking the Junk

FWIW, I don’t know if it was because I left the link to your second video on Sonar21.com as soon as it came out but Larry Johnson was interviewed today by Dan Davis (Deep Dive) using your info, giving you full credit:

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It certainly would concern Roof Guy, if he’s actually uninvolved, but for the rest of the country, the concern wouldn’t be so much the individual shooter, as why “the government” would be covering it up. Again.

On “the forces” behind the assassination. I am sure this was conducted by a team.

https://x.com/iancarrollshow/status/1973245204758138914?s=46&t=ESakWYsiIXcE3FQ56_8XHA

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It may appear new to community (set up new acct to share the following anon, and not linked to any prior posts)

If Tyler was a patsy, perhaps he didn’t even have a rifle on roof, as he didn’t seem to drop from roof with one, or if he had one, perhaps was given a rifle with a spent cartridge in it, and took off after shot was heard. (Could have been a blank in his, if he had one, so he thought he shot Kirk).

The other roof guy could also be a patsy.

Why all the hand signals around guys on Kirk’s security, like they are calling in and coordinating timing?

This all may be cover for the attached clip, which apparently shows an entry & exit wound. It came from upper left behind him.

This would more plausibly explain the downward thrusting wound cavitation channel we observed.

Observable issues:

No EMS involved, only security

No Ambulance

Security team hand signals, but not pulling him off stage to protect

White hat team member videoing Kirk from 10 o’clock position, no need when TPUSA has a high-res camera filming from 6 o’clock position, perhaps white hat to forward elsewhere when job accomplished, or at a min, lets get this guys video to study.

Only internal security ferried him to hosp, who could have done any number of things on way to Emer Room. (place a bullet ‘under the skin’ to be found)

I have second theory to post after people take a look at this video, if I can find it.

Security guy, trick shot from lower left, so upward thrusting wound channel with throat exit.

Here is the shot from rear, upper left (facing Kirk), so report would likely prompt crowd response Chris demonstrates in his video ‘wave’.

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Trying to find a better video than this, but around the 26sec mark, it appears that the guy just beyond Kirk, raises his arm, uncovering a gun, takes shot, immediately steps away and back.

In other versions, he steps back, stuffs his guy, and as part of team, handles/hustles Charlie.

Additional angles I’m trying to relocate, it shows him casually looking left to the cellphone gun theory guy (perhaps another patsy, or just a third guy activated by the hand signals) so several plausible attempts, to be used as cover for the actual, planned shooter.

Any number of people to blame, as cover for the precisely planned real assassination.

Look at ~26sec mark.

@cmartenson,

One thing I find a bit strange in the video of him running across the roof. The entire sequence is roughly a minute long. And from the videos there were a LOT of people on campus that day and outside. Some people that were at the back of the crowd can be seen starting to move fast away from the area, immediately after the shooting. They would have been only about 500 feet from being visible on the ground in the security cam footage in that camera angle (and thus a 5 mph fast walk would allow them to cover this much ground in a minute). Presumably, there were people on the walkway in front of Losee that were even closer to being visible on the security cam and that heard the shot (a 30-06 is extremely loud and they would have been even closer to the purported muzzle location), saw other people hustling away, and would have also started moving away fast.

But we see none of this. There are just two or three other people that ever show up, and they are all calmly walking as if it is just another sunny day in Utah. No one seems to be in a hurry. No one is looking around.

Just weird to me. I would expect more commotion to be visible within a minute of the shooting. It would be the weirdest thing in the world if this was taken another day or time. Wouldn’t it? If they showed us 30 more seconds we would for sure see the horde exiting. Of course they don’t.

<> just looked at the lifeisdriving video as he was filming the crowd reaction from above. People are full-on sprinting down that path.

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Interesting video he’s been there a while on the ground… scoping out potential sites for surveillance- this is the ROTC house and a home owned by Lyman again with ties to Russia.

https://x.com/realgeorgewebb1/status/1973476719555387609?s=46

Just a couple thoughts I’ve had… Not saying likely, but possible.
If you were only expecting to take one shot, is it crazy to just have the barrel hand tight? Understand the possibility of lower accuracy, but was he really aiming for the neck? And you could practice/experiment the shot prior.
Also, I’m not sure if removing the bolt is required for disassembly (I don’t think so), but if he did, the spent case wouldn’t have been found in the chamber.

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If it’s ‘canted to the left’ it’s but a fraction of a meaningful amount:

[Note: the drone is not perfectly overhead, so mentally adjust accordingly…but for all practical purposes, the tent is square to the architecture, and Charlie was square to the tent.]

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Here’s the thing…and I’ll repeat it again…if you can “see a projectile” on a video frame, it cannot be a deadly thing.

I mean, let’s think it through. A single frame on a video camera, and most typically a cell phone camera, is, at best, shot with a shutter speed of 260fps.

But even with the maximum possible iPhone shutter speed, it is recorded at 30 frames per second.

Okay, so maybe we’re capturing clear images of a projectile, although even at 8,000 fps that’s not actually ‘a thing.’

But let’s pretend it is.,

At best, we’re expecting to “see” a flying projectile that has been captured at 260 fps and imaged at 30 fps.

So, given all that, what’s the expectation for what you might see on a given video frame?

At best, you’d be hoping to capture something moving at least 1,000 fps, but better yet to comport with the observed cavitation event, at a minimum of2,000 fps.

Okay. So in a given 260 fps frame, the minimum “streak” or “smear” you be expecting to see on your recording at 1,000 FPS would be 4 feet long, but more realistically, you would be expecting a smear at least 8 feet long.

Those bullet-like and crisp “dots” people keep posting? Those cannot actually be deadly bullets.

Under more realistic 30 fps shooting speed, or even the “high shutter speed” of 60 fps, all of those numbers grow much and proportionally larger.

So until you account for that basic math, the “look! A bullet!” angle isn’t useful.

Thanks in advance.

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What is a shooting, to most people?

Having lived through several, a gun battle (just one gun shot in this instance), is a loud noise.

That is it. Loud noise.

Were they around to hear it?

No?

“Why is everyone running? LOL free donuts at the Winchells on Main St.?”

Female Accomplice???

https://x.com/vigilantfox/status/1973523549563351225?s=46

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So tribe-- has anyone else followed the story of this HADES spy plane that took off on the morning of shooting(this is different from the plane that turned off its transponder)? Said HADES plane descended and loitered near the university 3 hours before the shooting then did the same thing about 20 minutes after the shooting? John Cullen and Jason Goodman(I know strong feelings are held regarding Cullen’s work) had a very detailed analysis of this event that seems to have vanished. Here is a much more superficial treatment I can still cite:(topic starts at 41:20 mark) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5yYDJVdDm8

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Right. It’s hard capturing a projectile going downrange, even from behind the glass with a good scopecam. Forget catching one on film perpendicular or orthogonal to the trajectory.

This was a video I took when I harvested a buck in my backyard a few seasons back shooting a big 333 grain .45 hollowpoint filmed with a GoPro 7 Black “Backbone” edition (allows for threading in external lenses … used a 12mm f1/1.8 lens. Sun had almost set and screwed up my ISO, but I had to slow the video down to 5-10% speed to catch the bullet in flight at just 880FPS:

https://i.imgur.com/7hDA8Od.mp4

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I haven’t seen this video, but there is a reflex called the Lazarus sign where post brain death people can reach towards their mouth often with a grasping action. This movement is caused by the activation of spinal reflex arcs - neural pathways that bypass the brain - rather than any conscious or brainstem activity, and is not a sign of life.

My grandfather did this after dying from a heart attack - it looked like he was grasping the oxygen mask that was still on his face. My mum saw it and no amount of reference to the medical literature will convince her that he wasn’t still “alive”.

If this is what was seen with Charlie Kirk on the ground, then I guess it would indicate that certain portions of his upper spinal chord were still intact

Lazarus sign - Wikipedia for more details and a rather ghoulish video of a recently dead person performing the action.

And:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ca.24279

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That photo was allegedly taken 6 hours after the shooting. I’m sure someone could have calmed down enough in that time to appear composed.

Yes sir, you are correct, if it was canted even further left and Charlie was sitting square to the tent’s position, it would mean the entry wound from a “Tyler Robinson” shooting location would have an even greater chance of hitting less flesh, only on the side of the neck, further increasing the likelihood of a blowout just behind the entrywound.

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Yes George Webb has been talking about this a ton he thinks it went to the Indian reservation

I have never fired the Savage 250-3000 but I own and handload for a something similar that you might like.

I built a Sharps 25-45 upper using a kit in 2020. It has a 20" barrel, mid-length gas system, and an Aero Precision enhanced upper with a 15" free floated handguard. The Sharps 25-25 will push 87 grain 0.257" bullets to about 3,000 fps.

This cartridge is one of the easiest to handload for. You just need a 5.56x45 or Rem 223 case. You first run it through a full length resizer that will form the brass and expand the neck. I have never had to trim the neck of the case after this step. Trimming the neck is an awful task that I dislike a lot. This cartridge does well with H335 but CFE223 is almost as good.

This cartridge will perform better than a 6.5 Grendel out until about 400 yards both in terms of velocity, drop, and kinetic energy. The 0.264" bullets generally have higher BCs. The Sharps 25-45 is compatible with any standard AR-15 because the COL is the same as the 5.56x45. The barrel is the only part that is required to be changed. These Sharps 25-45, unlike the 300 AAC with heavy bullets, reliably runs in the Magpul D60.

The cartridge is easy to source components. You just need a bucketful of 5.56x45 brass (Lake City is what I prefer), large 500 bullet box of Speer TNT 87 grain hollow points. The 87 grain Speer TNT hollow point pictures on the left side of the photograph. Those 89 grain TNT 0.257" bullets were cheap at one point 5 years ago. I have not priced them recently.

I wish that the 25 Souper was an actual SAAMI cartridge for an AR-10/DPMS. The only SAAMI option is the 25 CM (recent SAAMI addition). I would rather have a 25-08 (25 Souper) with the Winchester 308 case over the Creedmoor case.

The Sharps has less case capacity but operates safely at 65 kpsi. The bolt thrust limits of the AR-15 do not allow the 6.5 Grendel to operate past 52 kpsi.

Sharps 25-45 load data

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Thanks Patriot83, I have not looked at Webb’s info yet. I did find the more detailed presentation by Cullen and Goodman regarding this odd spy plane component. Speaks to a US deep state component to the event IMHO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ovn4NRhk9k&t=4077s