Get Ready... Change Is Upon Us

“After four years of warfare that tore the world apart like never before, a peace was finally reached.  But it was a peace which one man in particular vociferously condemned — and that man was John Maynard Keynes.

In just two months, Keynes wrote the book that would make him a household name around the world — The Economic Consequences of the Peace.

In the book, Keynes was highly critical of the deal struck at Versailles, which he felt sure would lead to further conflict in Europe — describing the agreement as a “Carthaginian peace” — and with the passing of a surprisingly short period of time, he would be proven correct.”

   ~ Grant Williams in The Economic Consequences of Peace

After WWI, a particularly noxious set of treaties and economic reparations agreements were put in place that all but guaranteed a future WWII.   Mr. Keynes sniffed that out and, sadly, was proven correct.

The lesson from this is that, at certain times, it’s really not that hard to predict "what" is going to happen next after disastrously short-sighted and self-interested policies are enacted. Predicting the "when", with precision, is much trickier. But obvious misguided economic policies are destined to have a limited period of apparent (but false) prosperity, after which they end with a nasty Bang!.

We have entered just such a time. This isn't a Trump vs. Clinton thing; I'd make this claim regardless of who won this week's presidential election -- as our plight is much bigger than a single Administration. And my observation is that neither political party had much interest beyond some temporary election year lip-service to the economic plight of the middle class.

And by “middle class” I mean anybody not in the top 5% economic bracket. For those doing the math at home, that leaves the remaining 95% of us stuck in the meat grinder.

WTF Happened?

I know a lot of people who are suffering very raw emotional wounds from the harsh negativity and divisiveness of the seemingly never-ending election we just went through.  There will be a period of healing and adjustment for many, and I can fully empathize with how they feel.

For the Clinton supporters stunned that she didn't experience the victory so many predicted, here's a “what went wrong” post-mortem given by the brilliant British comedian Jonathan Pie that I think hits close to the mark (caution: it's a pretty heated rant):

Pie asks some very important questions, chief among them: Have we lost the ability to entertain alternative points of view? Are we ready to begin finally talking to each other again?

The Left has a lot of soul searching to do. As does the Right.  Because let’s be clear: Trump wasn’t the Republican’s preferred choice either.  They fought him tooth and nail. In terms of the traditional Left vs Right rivalry, both sides lost this time.

If we're to heal and progress from here, it's critical that we take the time to understand why.

The conversation has to begin here, I believe, with this excellent article that I ran across in Cracked – yes, the comedy alt-everything online outfit – explaining how it's the rural vs urban divide more than anything else that's pulling our society apart at the moment.

For those desperately seeking answers to Trump's surprise win, this article, of which I have reproduced only a small part, provides essential context. It's explanation has done wonders for everyone I have shared it with who was struggling:

How Half Of America Lost Its F**king Mind

Oct 12, 2016

[Note: please go to the article to read reasons #6 through #3 as they are very important for understanding the two I have snipped out below]


Reason #2:  Everyone Lashes Out When They Don't Have A Voice

[To a rural person] it really does feel like the worst of both worlds: all the ravages of poverty, but none of the sympathy. "Blacks burn police cars, and those liberal elites say it's not their fault because they're poor. My son gets jailed and fired over a baggie of meth, and those same elites make jokes about his missing teeth!" You're everyone's punching bag, one of society's last remaining safe comedy targets.

They take it hard. These are people who come from a long line of folks who took pride in looking after themselves. Where I'm from, you weren't a real man unless you could repair a car, patch a roof, hunt your own meat, and defend your home from an intruder. It was a source of shame to be dependent on anyone -- especially the government. You mowed your own lawn and fixed your own pipes when they leaked, you hauled your own firewood in your own pickup truck. (Mine was a 1994 Ford Ranger! The current owner says it still runs!)

Not like those hipsters in their tiny apartments, or "those people" in their public housing projects, waiting for the landlord any time something breaks, knowing if things get too bad they can just pick up and move. When you don't own anything, it's all somebody else's problem. "They probably don't pay taxes, either! Just treating America itself as a subsidized apartment they can trash!"

The rural folk with the Trump signs in their yards say their way of life is dying, and you smirk and say what they really mean is that blacks and gays are finally getting equal rights and they hate it. But I'm telling you, they say their way of life is dying because their way of life is dying. It's not their imagination. No movie about the future portrays it as being full of traditional families, hunters, and coal mines. Well, except for Hunger Games, and that was depicted as an apocalypse.

So yes, they vote for the guy promising to put things back the way they were, the guy who'd be a wake-up call to the blue islands. They voted for the brick through the window.

It was a vote of desperation.

#1. Assholes Are Heroes

But Trump is objectively a piece of shit!" you say. "He insults people, he objectifies women, and cheats whenever possible! And he's not an everyman; he's a smarmy, arrogant billionaire!"

Wait, are you talking about Donald Trump, or this guy:

Marvel Studios

You've never rooted for somebody like that? Someone powerful who gives your enemies the insults they deserve? Somebody with big fun appetites who screws up just enough to make them relatable? Like Dr. House or Walter White? Or any of the several million renegade cop characters who can break all the rules because they get shit done? Who only get shit done because they don't care about the rules?

"But those are fictional characters!" Okay, what about all those millionaire left-leaning talk show hosts? You think they keep their insults classy? Tune into any bit about Chris Christie and start counting down the seconds until the fat joke. Google David Letterman's sex scandals. But it's okay, because they're on our side, and everybody wants an asshole on their team -- a spiked bat to smash their enemies with. That's all Trump is. The howls of elite outrage are like the sounds of bombs landing on the enemy's fortress. The louder the better.

Already some of you have gotten angry, feeling this gut-level revulsion at any attempt to excuse or even understand these people. After all, they're hardly people, right? Aren't they just a mass of ignorant, rageful, crude, cursing, spitting subhumans?

Gee, I hope not. I have to hug a bunch of them at Thanksgiving. And when I do, it will be with the knowledge that if I hadn't moved away, I'd be on the other side of the fence, leaving nasty comments on this article.

The essential context is simply that rural residents are drowning under chronic economic blight. And when they dare to complain about it, they're castigated and humiliated by the dominant city culture that has no awareness of or sympathy for their troubles.

We've NAFTA'd away millions of manufacturing jobs (and those that served manufacturing communities) without providing the displaced labor a path to reskill and apply itself. Instead, we've left a patchwork of bomb crater communities across the heartland, where there are no employers and no prospects. To these rural folks, being cast as racist, misogynist, ignorant, or uneducated buffoons for being angry about their plight just adds kerosene to the fire that's been smoldering within theem. A fire which just conflagrated during this week's election.

So to reiterate: the cultural divide that's really in play here is not between the 'enlightened/progressive' people and their supposed opposites. Rather, it's Urban vs Rural.  

And as the rural dwellers have increasingly felt marginalized, demonized and otherwise unfairly treated, they are now angry enough at the perceived injustice to lash out against the status quo and roll the dice with an outsider who promises to shake things up. It's not surprising, really -- as I've written about before, we humans are wired to reject unfairness. This next short video is a favorite of mine, because it perfectly demonstrates how it's in our genes to become enraged when we perceive we're being unjustly treated:

To put in in monkey terms: since surbanites set the rules because they happen to outvote the rural people, and those same urbanites don't have to live with the consequences of their decisions, then it's cucumbers for rural people and grapes for the urban folks.

Adding to this understanding is today's article by our good friend Charles Hughes Smith, who validates the rage the downtrodden are feeling these days:

The Source of our Rage: The Ruling Elite Is Protected from the Consequences of its Dominance

There are many sources of rage: injustice, the destruction of truth, powerlessness.

But if we had to identify the one key source of non-elite rage that cuts across all age, ethnicity, gender and regional boundaries, it is this: The Ruling Elite is protected from the destructive consequences of its predatory dominance.

We see this reality across the entire political, social and economic landscape. If I had to pick one chart that illustrates the widening divide between the Ruling Elite and the non-elites, it is this chart of wages as a share of the nation's output (GDP): 46 years of relentless decline, interrupted by gushing fountains of credit and asset bubbles that enriched the few while leaving the economic landscape of the many in ruins.

The Ruling Elite once had an obligation to uphold the social contract as a responsibility that came with their vast privilege, power and wealth (i.e. noblesse oblige).

America's Ruling Elite has transmogrified into an incestuous self-serving few unapologetically plundering the many. In their hubris-soaked arrogance, their right to rule is unquestioningly based on their moral and intellectual superiority to "the little people" they loot with abandon.

Rather than feel a responsibility to the nation, America's Elite views the status quo as a free pass to self-aggrandizement. Much has changed in America in the past 46 years. Not only have wages and salaries declined as a share of "economic growth," but the wealth that has been generated has flowed to the top of the wealth/power pyramid (see chart below).

Social mobility has also declined drastically: Restoring America’s Economic Mobility, as has trust in government and key institutions.

As Frank Buckley, the author of The Way Back: Restoring the Promise of America observed: "In a corrupt country, trust is a rare commodity. That’s America today. Only 19 percent of Americans say they trust the government most of the time, down from 73 percent in 1958 according to the Pew Research Center."

The top .01% has seen its share of the household wealth triple from 7% to 22% in the past four decades, while the share of the nation's wealth owned by the bottom 90% has plummeted from 36% to 23%.

Look at that.  The share of the national wealth has been steadily, if not increasingly, siphoned away from the 95% and towards the 5%.  In reality, it's almost entirely gone towards the 0.1%.

The economic “peace” we’ve seemingly enjoyed over the past number of decades turned out to be no peace at all. It was the same sort of peace that existed between the Treaty of Versailles and the outbreak of WWII -- a crippling arrangement that overwhelmingly favored one side over the other. Germany eventually had no choice but to rebel.

Similarly, by failing to protect anyone but their cloistered and wealthy friends, the elites of both current US political parties has laid the fuel for the fire that now burns.

Bernie Sanders’ post-election statement had this to say about the economics that drove the result:

 "Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics and the establishment media. People are tired of working longer hours for lower wages, of seeing decent paying jobs go to China and other low-wage countries, of billionaires not paying any federal income taxes and of not being able to afford a college education for their kids — all while the very rich become much richer.”

Bernie would have easily bested Trump in my opinion. It was a huge twin set of mistakes by the DNC to first hamper his primary efforts, and then fail to at least make him Clinton's running mate. 

Redistribution of money and power seem to happen peacefully only rarely among humans and virtually never in America.  Labor rights?  Fought and died over.  Women’s right to vote?  Fought and died over.  Environmental rights?  Brought kicking and screaming across the moats.  Racial rights?  Only partially achieved after the greatest amount of violence and bloodshed of all these causes.

Can we do better? Absolutely, in theory.  But so far we don’t a lot of better examples to point to inside the US.

So this battle is just getting started and will far outlive Trump and everybody reading this. Decades of ill-advised growth and financial squandering cannot be wished away -- we, and our children (and likely our grandchildren, too), will be cleaning up the messes of our profligacy for a long time.

And just as one can easily peer at Charles Hughes Smith's charts and conclude that eventually a rebellion of sorts is inevitable, there’s an even more startling chart you need to see. If you can truly internalize it, you'll understand why the new era of status quo rejection is just getting underway.

Promises That Can’t Be Kept

There's a lot of data I can provide here, but I’ll go with a single -- but critically important -- chart from Ray Dalio’s Bridgewater Associates, one of the largest money management firms out there.

I’m sorry that you have to squint a little to see this, but here’s all you need to know: when you add up both the debts and the liabilities of the US, those are more than 1,000% of current GDP:


One thousand one hundred percent?!?!?  As in eleven times GDP??  You might as well say eleventy gajillion because there’s no sense in any of these numbers.

Yep.  No country has ever dug out from under such a load. None have even come close.  The “prediction,” which is so simple it’s not really a prediction at all, that flows from the above chart is this: Somebody is going to have to eat the losses.

Massive, fabulously enormous losses. 

Trillions and trillions of losses in current dollars. Even if the economic elites don’t try to force all of those losses on the ‘little people’, the pain is still going to be so extraordinary that serious political and social crises will erupt.

You can count on it.

You can already see that larger future predicament playing out painfully around us. One example is how pensions are cutting back benefits, lowering expectations, demanding higher funding payments by taxpayers, and otherwise displaying signs of distress.

And this is with equity markets perched at all-time highs (at the moment of this writing, the Dow is at a new record).

So our recent decades of economic peace must end, given the thousand percent indebtedness predicament revealed by the chart above.

We got into that thousand percent predicament the exact same way the DNC lost to Trump: by failing to address things that plainly needed to be dealt with.  We proved to ourselves, yet again, that pretending something uncomfortable doesn’t exist doesn’t make it go away.

“Well, we might just grow out from under those debts and obligations” some might be tempted to say. My response is to ask you to go back and look at that chart again and note that it has grown from 700% to 1,100% since 2001.  If GDP had been growing at the same pace, the ratio value wouldn't have budged. It would have remained at 700%.

But it grew to 1,100%, which means the debts and obligations were growing much faster than GDP.

So for the past 15 years the “grow out of it” mantra -- which has been echoed ad nauseum -- has been a complete train wreck of a failure.  How many more years before we can all just admit the obvious?

Just as both the RNC and DNC opted to ignore the extreme damage their policies had been inflicting on the upper, middle and lower classes, sparing only the very tippy-top elites (but hand-feeding those elites peeled grapes it should be noted, because their lot improved wildly over the past decades), everybody in power has been steadfastly ignoring our massive debt and liability problems, too.

Those are going to shape the future, and that future is going to be plenty painful. The longer we wait, the more painful it will be. This has been our steady message at Peak Prosperity for a very long time, and we are actually hopeful that now, finally, we can speak about the unspeakable to those who had no willing ear for it just a short week ago.


The political upheaval of Donald Trump is best understood through the lens of economic erosion suffered by the vast majority of people.  If a democracy is measured in how well it serves the interests of the majority, the United States is not a democracy at all.

Of course, nearly everyone already knows this. But it's been all but unspeakable in polite circles to say so.

Now, it is finally becoming okay to voice.

Which is, admittedly, a breath of fresh air for us at Peak Prosperity.  Because not only are massive, obvious economic issues going to unavoidably visit the US in the not-too-distant future, but they'll be doing so at a time when many critical resources will be in decline.

Chief among those? Oil, of course.

To skirt the impact of a future oil supply crunch, we'll need an incredible effort of joined forces and strict prioritization to assure that whatever transition we can effect will be a smooth as possible.  Even then, we’ll be lucky to evade painful disruption.

But if we don't begin to view our future with clear eyes and a united sense of what the predicaments are, if we instead turn to another version of four more years of preservation of the status quo, then we will face a future of disruption so painful it will make the worst of post-election Wednesday for the most ardent liberal seem like a minor inconvenience (by comparison, I mean, of course). 

It will take an enormous amount of effort simply to stem the tide of economic erosion that now besets the land.  And that’s just as true for the US as it is for Japan, Europe and the UK.  The same forces are at play in all of these centers.

It will take another massive bowlful of effort to begin to address the debts and liabilities issues.  And yet another cauldron of effort to revamp our energy infrastructure in parallel with all the other challenges.  Put it all together and you can begin to understand why, if we're going to deplore something from the recent election, it should be the running of an intentionally divisive set of campaigns that have driven as large a wedge between people in the US as has existed in a very long time.

We need to be working together on the common predicaments that care not if we are liberal or conservative, religious or not, male or female, or which race or sexual persuasion best applies to us. Declining global net energy per capita. Our massive fiscal over-indebtedness. The collapse of too many ecosystems we depend on for food and drinkable water. The list is sadly long...

It’s not just time to heal; it’s imperative that we do. So that we stand united to deal with these predicaments as they arrive in full force.

There’s really not a moment to spare.

And for those looking to get a jump on what's coming, we need to better understand the implications of what just happened this week. The Trump upset has changed all of the probabilities that we track.

I've been keeping a running update of the developing situation in Part 2: OK, Here's What We Think Is In Store After Trump's Win. We'll be continuing to update this important assessment as new information filters in over the next few days.

Click here to access Part 2 (free executive summary, enrollment required for full access)

~ Chris Martenson

This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at

Best article yet.

I offered up Pie's video to Australia's ABC for their amusement and gratification  and was told this morning that they prefer cultured comments, not rants. They prefer style over substance. 
The ABC is part of our hectoring elite. Fortunately Australians have a low tolerance for that sort of thing.

Well done!
PS: Don't trust these MSM snakes any further than you can throw them.

I think I have it.   And two authors just said the same thing.
Wayne Madsen:   The Clintons and Soros Launch America's Purple Revolution

Defeated Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton is not about to «go quietly into that good night». On the morning after her surprising and unanticipated defeat at the hands of Republican Party upstart Donald Trump, Mrs. Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, entered the ball room of the art-deco New Yorker hotel in midtown Manhattan and were both adorned in purple attire. The press immediately noticed the color and asked what it represented. Clinton spokespeople claimed it was to represent the coming together of Democratic «Blue America» and Republican «Red America» into a united purple blend. This statement was a complete ruse as is known by citizens of countries targeted in the past by the vile political operations of international hedge fund tycoon George Soros

The Clintons, who both have received millions of dollars in campaign contributions and Clinton Foundation donations from Soros, were, in fact, helping to launch Soros’s «Purple Revolution» in America. The Purple Revolution will resist all efforts by the Trump administration to push back against the globalist policies of the Clintons and soon-to-be ex-President Barack Obama. The Purple Revolution will also seek to make the Trump administration a short one through Soros-style street protests and political disruption.

Paul Craig Roberts this morning (11/12/2016)
The Anti-Trump Protesters Are Tools of the Oligarchy

«Reform always provokes rage on the part of those who profit by the old order». Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., The Crisis of the Old Order

Who are the anti-Trump protesters besmirching the name of progressives by pretending to be progressives and by refusing to accept the outcome of the presidential election? They look like, and are acting worse than, the «white trash» that they are denouncing.

I think I know who they are. They are thugs for hire and are paid by the Oligarchy to delegitimize Trump’s presidency in the way that Washington and the German Marshall Fund paid students in Kiev to protest the democratically elected Ukrainian government in order to prepare the way for a coup.

From Breitbart News   [Editor's Note: has received significant funding from George Soros in the past. ] released the following press release Wednesday afternoon:

Americans to Come Together in Hundreds Peaceful Gatherings of Solidarity, Resistance, and Resolve Following Election Results

Hundreds of Americans, dozens of organizations to gather peacefully outside the White House and in cities and towns nationwide to take a continued stand against misogyny, racism, Islamophobia, and xenophobia.

The gatherings – organized by and allies – will affirm a continued rejection of Donald Trump’s bigotry, xenophobia, Islamophobia, and misogyny and demonstrate our resolve to fight together for the America we still believe is possible.

Within two hours of the call-to-action, MoveOn members had created more than 200 gatherings nationwide, with the number continuing to grow on Wednesday afternoon.

WHEN / WHERE: Find local gatherings here. Major gatherings include in New York City’s Columbus Circle and outside the White House in Washington, DC.

Black Lives Matter (BLM) cashes in with $100 million from liberal foundations.
For all its talk of being a street uprising, Black Lives Matter is increasingly awash in cash, raking in pledges of more than $100 million from liberal foundations and others eager to contribute to what has become the grant-making cause du jour.

The Ford Foundation and Borealis Philanthropy recently announced the formation of the Black-Led Movement Fund [BLMF], a six-year pooled donor campaign aimed at raising $100 million for the Movement for Black Lives coalition.

That funding comes in addition to more than $33 million in grants to the Black Lives Matter movement from top Democratic Party donor George Soros through his Open Society Foundations, as well as grant-making from the Center for American Progress.

George Soros, Black Lives Matter and Manufactured Civil Unrest
...leaked documents from George Soros’ Open Society Foundation show that the organization’s goal behind funding the Black Lives Matter movement is ultimately to federalize America’s police forces.

The document is aptly called, “Police Reform: How to Take Advantage of the Crisis of the Moment and Drive Long-Term Institutional Change in Police-Community Practice.” Breitbart reported:

The document states that the Foundations’ U.S. Programs (USP) was seeking to use “this moment” – meaning the so-called crisis in policing following high profile shootings and charges of racism – to “create a national movement” for police reform.


Police in Ferguson and Charlotte reported than many of the "protesters" arrested in those cities were brought in from out of state to feed the fires. 

The New American recently reported, Ken Zimmerman, the director of U.S. programs at Soros’s Open Society Foundations (OSF), denied last year that Soros had funded BLM, saying it was just a rumor.  That was before hackers with published OSF documents showing that the Soros group had already given at least $650,000 directly to BLM.

My summary:  The discontent and fear among GREEN, people of color and LBGT Community is REAL.  Very real and very deeply felt.  I am not at all belittling the reality of the anguish.  

And this anguish is to be the fuel to be used to tear the social fabric, similar to what was done in the Ukraine.

I guess the division is between GREEN on one side, and ORANGE and BLUE on the other.



[quote]My summary:  The discontent and fear among GREEN, people of color and LBGT Community is REAL.  Very real and very deeply felt.  I am not at all belittling the reality of the anguish.  

And this anguish is to be the fuel to be used to tear the social fabric, similar to what was done in the Ukraine.

I guess the division is between GREEN on one side, and ORANGE and BLUE on the other.[/quote]

GREEN being manipulated, shifted, into MGM (Mean Green Meme)?

If so, can ORANGE and/or BLUE be manipulated in a similar fashion?

The ladies have begun to mobilize.Although in early stages,they plan to demonstrate on Jan 21 opposing alot of what Trump stands for.There are problems right now with the national facebook page but 20 individual states have set them up.The Times,Huff Post,Elle among others have spread the word.The  grassroots efforts is on…

Perhaps they can recycle the placards they used last time to protest Bill Clinton's misogyny involving a certain Monica Lewinsky on state time. Just strike a line through Bill's name and that way we don't have to cut down any more trees. Just seeing the opportunity in a crisis…

Care to offer some insights into what they may marching against as "opposing alot (sic) of what Trump stands for " doesn't offer much insight that I can wrap my head around.
I suppose Trump stands for less pay for women for equal work? This theory has been debunked so many times it's not even funny. Here's one article from the Foundation for Economic Education that lays that out. Here's another article from the WSJ on same topic. 

What other issues are important to women that they would be marching against? They are arguably more successful early in their career than men, attend college and earn degrees in greater numbers than men, have good paying jobs that is equal or exceeds that of men, so I'm not sure. Possibly Obamacare? That law that sees huge increases year after year from 20-75% in some areas (Minnesota for one), that has reduced health insurance competition and a full 1/3 of people only have 1 choice and 55% only have "2 or fewer" options on the exchange (BTW, that 1/3 is up from 4% in 2016, quite the death spiral isn't it?). Like Chris says, if you want to know how the law works out for the insurance companies look at their stock price, if you want to see how it works out for the man on the street, well, we already know he is struggling. So the women will possibly be marching to keep funding huge salaries for insurance company CEOs and corporate profits while keeping the little man down? That doesn't sound like a liberal policy to me. A liberal policy would be to force hospitals to publish the cost of each and every procedure and then someone would create an app for who's the cheapest and who provides the best care as that is already published. Then you could actually shop for healthcare and reduce the middle man (insurance companies) and then maybe you could say, hey, I can afford a HDHP and pay out of pocket for this stuff instead of paying $300/mo for insurance that has a 5,000 deductible that you never hit each year anyway. I'm a big fan of HDHP, as they allow premium pass through where you can pocket in your HSA 1/2 of your monthly premium in some cases and your deductible just isn't that high ($3,000 in my case with 0 coverage by insurance for the first 3,000 and then they cover 80% over that and everything over 10,000 up to 1 million). 

It's funny to me that people decide to protest President Trump, yet have nothing bad to say about former President Clinton who used his power to coerce an intern into performing oral sex on him, has more than 10 women who claimed he either sexually assaulted/harassed or raped them, and we have flight logs that show he has flown on the plane of a convicted pedophile multiple times without his Secret Security escort and with soft core porn stars and other suspicious sounding aliases on board the same flight. Here's that article with flight logs.

Look, I don't support everything Trump says, but a lot of the divisiveness in this country is specifically generated by the MSM looking to drive a wedge between groups of people. Mindlessly demonstrating without knowing what you are demonstrating against or for just goes to show the thought control the elites still maintain over a certain portion of the country. The only justification I can see at this point in time for protesting Trump is his policy on immigration and his intent on deporting large numbers of illegal immigrants. That's just stupid and it's a waste of money and will create more of a police state where anyone who looks "latino" will be targeted. 

I know I won't be protesting, I enjoy watching the stick through the spokes effect that Trump is having the elites. I just hope he doesn't give them a helmet before they fly over the handlebars. 

First the interviewers eyes shifted away as soon as Moore said these people aren't racist and I think he was waiting for someone from the panel to chime in and interrupt him.
Then when MM goes to the economic argument about BASIC FOOD like cereals the interviewer looks away again and someone interrupts Mr. Moore (Damn it, we just can't have our guests coming on here and proposing plausible ideas for why those white rural hillbillies aren't racist and sexist and that's why we lost). We're not talking foie gras, we're talking basic food. I don't like MM as I feel his movies are basically propaganda, but when anyone talks common sense stuff I'm willing to listen. Thanks for sharing, this is classic leftist media. 

One of the reasons being used to justify the protests and violence is that Hillary won the popular vote.

In order for a vote to be legitimate, the voter must be a US Citizen.  Most states are not adequately verifying citizenship when registering voters.

Hillary's votes:  60,467,601
Trump's votes:  60,072,551
Difference:             425,050

Number of non US Citizens residing in the US: 24,800,000
Est % who voted (illegally) 5% or 1,240,000
Est % who voted democratic 85% or 1,054,000
15% equals 186,000
Net Democratic gain equals 868,000

Estimated legitimate popular vote:

Hillary's estimated legitimate votes: 59,413,601
Trump's estimated legitimate votes: 59,886,551
Difference:                                             472,950

Trump won the legitimate popular vote!

I obviously don't have accurate numbers to do the above calculations.  The numbers above were rounded down examples from the best sources I could find.

However, I am convinced they are either conservative or in the ball park of reality.

Unless honesty starts becoming a MSM staple, we are in for more of the same. 

You took the words right out of my mouth. Nobody “marched” when the sitting president was committing the actual deed right in the white house rather than just talking trash about it to another guy.

That's right, HRC is a republican libertarian.  The left does not exist any more, it hasn't for years and years. Why "democrats", who consider themselves "liberal" would even think of supporting someone like HRC is really beyond my belief.  That was the jaw dropping unbelievable thing about this past election, not that DT won, but that people actual thought that there was any difference between the two, as I ranted on and on about.
That was the goal.  Take the things that don't matter, in other words the things that have no impact on the financial and social order, make everything about that.  And further, take these inconsequential things and make the election about that, in such a way as to divide people against each other and their own interests.  This was a divisive election?  What serious policy issues were really even talked about.

Black live matter?  Hell yes, of course.  But how in the world did TPTB get this whole conflated with some evil scheme by George Soros.  Years of slavery, lynching, Jim Crow, racism, none of it real of course, just a scheme to piss off poor whites. The vast middle class has been getting the short end of the stick for years, African Americans have been getting beaten with it.  This is a reason for solidarity, its the same damn crappy stick!  Its the same vicious predatory rapacious system screwing everybody.  WTF!

HRC is a libertarian, oh yes.  You think libertarianism and you think, small government, personal freedom, low taxes.  Your corporate overlord owners are cackling with glee.  The one thing they are afraid of is an organized population, that is it. If you organize outside governmental structures you're a terrorist, inside government, your a liberal. Either way, they need to create the idea that organizing collectively is off the table. And we are accommodating them in spades.

The insurance industry, pharmaceutical industry write health care legislation and gave it to their corporate task masters to ram to Americas throat, and what do they call it - Obama Care.  Miss-direction at its very finest.  Government did this to you, we didn't have anything to do with this.  Abandon your government, don't worry, we'll manage it very well for you.  And we'll give you a wonderful group of candidates to vote for every two years, oh yes there will be real differences between them.  Spend all your time debating and analyzing that. Please, please don't think about anything else.

Now that Trump has clinched the presidency and completely defeated the neocons, what are his first moves now?
Just sayin', there's still the electoral college.  I've never known the neocons to get up in the middle of a game.


From PCR's website, "Has George Soros Committed Treason?",

Has George Soros Committed Treason?

“His only legitimacy is his wallet.”

The press prostitutes continue to lie to us. They pretend that the anti-Trump protests are real spontaneous events although the prostitutes know that the “protests” are orchestrated by George Soros and front groups for the Oligarchy such as and other fake progressive groups funded by the oligarchs.

Soros, and various progressive and leftwing fronts for the oligarchs pretend to be for democracy, but they are acting in behalf of Oligarchy. We are witnessing a direct attack on American democracy. These protesters are the hired mercenary enemy of the American people.

I suspect that the irony of  the protesters  simultaneously  proclaiming Love trumps hate! and assassinate Trump while burning him in effigy  and calling for violent revolution is lost on the average low information protester.  
Given the magnitude of violence and looting in the wake of the election it would seem like the president has a duty to calm people down and work towards healing the divide.

Apart from his pro forma comments post election and his de rigeuer meeting with trump   It is a moral imperative that he use his "bully" pulpit  to chill out the cry bullies that are burning, looting and  in some cases beating people in the streets.    

His radio silence on that speaks volumes about his character, integrity and agenda.

Perhaps  some of the Washington elites who have such great back door communication with the media could send a memo to their lap dogs to tone down  the stoking fears and legitimizing faux moral outrage, that have summoned and empowered a  veritable army of useful idiots

I fully expect things will escalate and by the time the inauguration comes we will have national guard and martial law in the cities.


My default position is that we are being played once again, that the Neocons and their associated ilk have doubled down, and that all is not as it seems.

LogansRun wrote:
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO'S ELECTED!  So, stop sniveling (HRC Lovers/voters) or pumping your fists (DT Lovers/voters).  Get over it.
That being said I hope we're both wrong, and I reserve the right to change my opinion given facts as they emerge.

Just want to let all my women friends, black friends and family, gay and lesbian friends and family, Jewish friends and family, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist and atheist family and friends that I love them and 100% support them. Me, my wife and all of us, care for you and support you all without any hesitation. This core attitude is strong and constant, not dependent on ANY political development.
With all the talk about Neocons here on PP, I want to especially, especially convey my good will to my Jewish friends and Jewish PP members.