"It's About Control": An Interview with David Icke

Scientism/Cargoism: “We can’t understand consciousness or even gravity, but we believe in gravity and as long as we believe in the power of science and technology, we can solve any problem.”
Human supremacist hubris. This culture would forsake everything to build a Dyson sphere-powered particle accelerator the size of our galaxy only to discover that gravity isn’t what we think it is, but it was worth the human cost to learn that.

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I think that there will be some serious damage control meetings going on this morning. J posted ‘let’s talk about side effects’ stating she had ‘a sore arm’, and the first comment (now removed) was about a death.
https://m.facebook.com/45300632440/posts/10158140116102441/?d=n
 

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This will probably go the way of Congressional term limits, federally funded elections, no-revolving-door policy, elimination of Citizens United, etc. How about a psych test for anyone wanting to be elected to any governmental office, starting at (maybe especially) dog catcher. Anyone expressing psychopathic traits either gets denied ballot listing, or test results are listed on the ballot, for the voter to decide. In deference to Arthur, we could let in a couple just to keep us on our toes. Voting works, right? ;^) … Aloha, Steve.

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This would probably only happen after the pitchforks come out. Given the discussed Power/Control pyramid, there has to be a level- 2, 3, 4?- where the dastardly participants can be identified. If one level is “removed”- perhaps to “reeducation camps”, or something…- the Control flow gets disrupted from above, and the lower level sees the fate of their uppers and says “Thanks, but I’ll stay here, and not move up”. Easy, problem solved. We can go back to enjoying life. Heh, heh…Aloha, Steve

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As best I can describe it, we are appendages or limbs of one universal being using our senses to explore and our minds to think about this one being that we are.

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now at 20K comments after they’ve deleted many negative ones according to people watching the post.

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Icke is not wrong he just makes it way more involved than it needs to be. But then this is how he makes a living so it can’t be simple.
The reason people acquess is because their paycheck depends on it. It doesn’t have to be more nefarious than that. Why do you do what your boss tell you to do…even if you believe it is not right, good, the best way, etc? You do it because you get paid to do it. By the way most people hate their boss and its for this very reason.
Icke does not understand resource constraints. That doesn’t mean he is wrong about it all being about control. It is all about control. The reason the US has “regiem changed” over 50 countries over the last 75+ years is for control. Mostly if not totally for control of resources. As the finite supply of resources dwindle and the planets ability to absorb humanities waste stream peaks TOTAL control is necessary or it will be chaos.

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That sounds like a great idea. I’ve been reading Peak Prosperity for a while, but just recently became a commenter; people here seem to want to do something positive, rather than just comment and complain.

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A nice montage. Its okay though, cause it’s white cops beating white ne’er do wells. (Aussie accent) “Get yer Pfizer or get the taser!”
https://mobile.twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1441768323532816390

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Dave,
Thanks for a very helpful summary of the Icke interview.

the internet is used to centralize and then censor human communication
Although I don't recall if Icke addressed this, I would add to this statement about the internet the absolutely damaging impact of social media on the self-worth of our young people, planting the seeds frighteningly early for the psychosis that Chris described in a recent post. I sat in an extended with several millennials a few weeks ago who described to me in detail just how they were impacted by social media growing up because it taught them to compare themselves to all of these idealized folks on Facebook, Tik-Tok etc and they inevitably came up short. Utterly tragic and scary. --Suzie
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I watched this interview twice because it was so intriguing. I have been hearing his voice used in another group’s youtube videos and thought to myself, this guy knows whats going on! And thankfully you brought him to light. Thanks for doing this interview. I especially have been pondering his solution to this mess; we simply don’t acquiesce to the tyranny. This interview has given me personal strength to hold on to my self-respect. I will not comply and I do not have to. The elite only have power if we give it to them. We out number them all. I hope many people do start to join the awakening and this interview is a good place to start.
P.S. Chris, I love your website and content. I found you in January 2020 because of your Covid research but I plan to stay from here on out because of your continued incredible work and goal of teaching resiliency to the world. I’m so grateful to be apart of the tribe.

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I don’t have anything to add on this except here is Rudolf Steiner’s quote that Icke mentions:
https://spiritualityisreality108.wordpress.com/2020/11/21/rudolf-steiner-on-vaccines/
” In the future, we will eliminate the soul with medicine. Under the pretext of a ‘healthy point of view’, there will be a vaccine by which the human body will be treated as soon as possible directly at birth, so that the human being cannot develop the thought of the existence of soul and Spirit.
To materialistic doctors, will be entrusted with the task of removing the soul of humanity. As today, people are vaccine against this disease or disease, so in the future, children will be vaccinated with a substance that can be produced precisely in such a way that people, thanks to this vaccination, will be immune to being subjected to the “madness” of spiritual life. He would be extremely smart, but he would not develop a conscience, and that is the true goal of some materialistic circles.
With such a vaccine, you can easily make the etheric body loose in the physical body. Once the etheric body is detached, the relationship between the universe and the etheric body would become extremely unstable, and man would become an automaton, for the physical body of man must be polished on this Earth by spiritual will. So, the vaccine becomes a kind of arymanique force; man can no longer get rid of a given materialistic feeling. He becomes materialistic of constitution and can no longer rise to the spiritual “.
NB: arymanique (usually spelled ‘ahrmanic’ are forces related to the Ahriman, aka Satan).

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I don’t know if it’s really possible to separate us from our souls chemically… but on the other hand we do seem to be able to use chemicals to open the window further (DMT, Ayahuasca) … so there’s that. It would seem that a majority of folks are already functionally NPC’s.

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  • For continuing to explore the edges, push past the fences that control independent thinking and action.
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Abductees do not report where the aliens come from and the Mantids seem to be in charge of the planetary takeover. That does not mean that they are at the top of the pyramid.
Why would Boss Lady get her hands dirty?
I doubt if the Hubrids themselves know who is at the Top as there is no need for them to. They’ve got a job to do, and they do it single mindedly.
They rank second lowest, the lowest position is You, Muggins.

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New here, just watched. Very disturbing to say the least. Thank you for the re-post.

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Who cares where she lives. She is Saxon and has Saxon Blood.
Note well. Was she worried that the Germans had an army? Not at all. Every country has the responsibility of protecting its citizens. Was she concerned that the Quants made uniforms for the German Army? Not at all. Did you expect the Germans to stand around naked as their ancestors did?
Was she concerned that the Germans made weapons? Why should the the Germans go into the fray naked and defenseless?
She wasn’t particularly bothered by the fact that the Germans chose National Socialism as their preferred mode of life. What business of hers if the Germans chose National Socialism like their Swedish neighbours?
So what horrified this Daughter of Saxons?
She was appalled by the fact that there was Slavery!
See that picture of a flame in the background. That is the sacred flame of our Dear Freya. See the Owl? That is the Owl that Minerva kept to remind her of the evil people who lurk in dark corners. The sward? The injunction that all Freyan men must devote a day a week to the martial arts, for the best way to avert war is to be well armed and ready.
She is a true Daughter of Freya.
https://rumble.com/embed/vi0pcg/?pub=agw7z

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Jim what is an NPC?
Replying to the prior post, this comment is interesting: “With such a vaccine, you can easily make the etheric body loose in the physical body. Once the etheric body is detached, the relationship between the universe and the etheric body would become extremely unstable,” and fits with a comment I heard somewhere that reiki practitioners have noticed that the energy body/nervous system of their vaxed clients is totally disrupted. My personal experience is that it is via the energy body that Spirit connects with us – so if you seriously disrupt the energy body (note all the post-vax neurological injuries) then in my view, you would indeed seriously disrupt a person’s connection to Spirit.

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Tone shaming women is an American past time
I'm a Saxon. We find it repugnant for a man to pose as a woman in order to avoid robust criticism. Our chivalry mitigates against making women cry. But let me ask you; are you trying to shame me? May I suggest "The Coddling of the American Mind" by Greg Lukainoff and Jonathan Haidt?
Three bad ideas. Chapter 1. What doesn't kill you makes you weaker. Chapter 2 The untruth of emotional reasoning. Always Trust your Feelings Chapter 3 The Untruth of Us versus Them. Life is a battle between Good People and Evil People.
My notes: # 2 We have to differentiate between emotion and intuition. (Tricky, but doable.) # 3 They sure got that wrong. It's a battle between insouciant People and an infestation of Mantids. More homework. Read about Overmothers in Our Saxon Oera Linda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYT_WugMLoY
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If David Icke, along with Rudolf Steiner and many others who see themselves as spiritual, say that those who have taken a gene therapy vaccine are clearly different in the spiritual realm, that their spiritual sense is dead (or merely asleep?), who are those such as myself who don’t see auras to say anything different? How epistemologically useful is it to turn inside for knowledge, to have an intuitive knowing that perhaps seems confirmed by the similar experiences of others?
There are more than two options here–awake and asleep, trusting yourself and trusting the authorities. It could also be that your inward-turning intuition is often wrong and requires regular reality checks and course corrections using the principles of science and reason. Which, when properly applied, keep you humble and not easily “othering” as evil or deficient those who don’t see it your way.

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