Many years ago, I think it was about 2007, I met a young woman who was on her way to a David Icke sponsored event. I expressed that I didn’t believe that Queen Elizabeth is really a space lizard. She insisted that only a neophyte would take this seriously, and that anyone who really knew Icke would understand that it’s just a metaphor. It’s Icke’s way of saying that these people have no soul because they’re psychopathic.
Not being an inner member of the circle myself, I don’t really know… but this seems consistent with the way Icke presents himself in this interview, which is very level-headed.
23 Likes
She insisted that only a neophyte would take this seriously, and that anyone who really knew Icke would understand that it's just a metaphor. It's Icke's way of saying that these people have no soul because they're psychopathic.That works for me too.
8 Likes
mememonkey wrote:
The short answer is yes, based on everything Chris prefaced his interview with Someone Like Icke can be fantastically wrong about many things and still be correct about others and have useable insights as I think this interview proves. It is not an accident that Genius is often correlated with mental illness, Visions, hallucinations etc.Well, by that logic, why doesn't Chris bring on one of those Flat Earthers he frequently derides? Honestly, their theory is more believable than many of Icke's... mememonkey also wrote:
Would you object to Chris interviewing William Blake, Nitzche or Nikola Tesla?Not at all...because they effected their thinking into demonstrated works that proved truly transformative -- Blake created masterworks, Nitzche's logic survived peer review, Telsa made AC a reality. What has Icke brought into the world besides decades of bunkum? And last question -- why interview a rando like Icke before bringing on a senior medical doctor from a hospital busy treating COVID patients? Seems that a respectful debate with a licensed professional who holds a different perspective than Chris (pro-vaccine, anti-IVM) on the key focus of this site would be far more valuable right now. Curious why that hasn't happened yet.
5 Likes
“Instead, politicians are responding to an idea that “we” have been far to quick to institutionalize. Being politicians – taking actions they believe will be optically in their best interest – they will take drastic actions to ensure the elderly and children are protected at any cost. They simply can’t and won’t take a chance that Covid could be rather benign – because the endorsed, institutionalized narrative says otherwise. This is not evil, it is the action of misinformed and risk adverse public officials responding to an extremely emotional issue: the protection of the most vulnerable in our society.”
They are evil as fuck.
The upper echelons comprise, quite literally, a death cult.
I am not a fan of David Icke…and yet this is one of your best interviews yet Chris.
14 Likes
And last question -- why interview a rando like Icke before bringing on a senior medical doctor from a hospital busy treating COVID patients?It turns out, Chris already did that. Guy named Pierre Kory. I guess you missed that one.
Seems that a respectful debate with a licensed professional who holds a different perspective than Chris (pro-vaccine, anti-IVM) on the key focus of this site would be far more valuable right now. Curious why that hasn't happened yet.Well, because the CFR for the pro-vaccine anti-IVM "conventional docs" are pretty pathetic. That would be one reason. "Remdesivir and ventilators for everyone! Dexamethasone 6mg, just like that UK trial!" But doc - shots for children - who aren't at risk? What about risk/benefit analysis? "Take the freaking shot!" How about COVID-recovered immunity? "Didn't you hear me? TAKE THE FREAKING SHOT! NO EXCEPTIONS!" Oh, ok. Thanks doc. While we're at it, we could ask Chris to interview Admiral Kimmel or General Short on "how best to protect Hawaii from a sneak attack from Japanese carrier-based aircraft." This really is all about control. The mainstream is so hypnotized that we can learn nothing useful from them, except - as Icke might say - to gather information about what those in charge of the narrative want us to do.
25 Likes
We are being lead by Morons, this is true. I just cant figure why Australia is first? I also cant figure why we are being so compliant and disrespectful of ourselves.
13 Likes
My understanding is they are going to push the “great reset” as fast as they can. Your system allows it to pushed faster , first. You gave up your guns, that makes it a bit easier. Also, the police are easier to make complicit for one reason or another ( I keep asking myself ) WTF is wrong with those cops. We dont have that across the board here in the US. But your caving with ease is really hurting the rest of us. we will get the screws torqued faster and harder now.
I am telling you, if the cops pulled this shit here - on me - there would be dead cops very very fast. This shit where you cant leave home , are rationed alcohol ,“CANT FUCKING Protest” and that is incitement, is utter bullshit. I can tell you what is inciting to me - is your fucking police and governors , not your protests.
I don’t care, I would never allow to be treated this way. I may end up dead, but i am bringing a lot of these fucks with me.
32 Likes
https://selfdefinition.org/psychology/etienne-de-la-boetie/contents.htm
The fundamental political question is why do people obey a government. The answer is that they tend to enslave themselves, to let themselves be governed by tyrants. Freedom from servitude comes not from violent action, but from the refusal to serve. Tyrants fall when the people withdraw their support. Liberty is the natural condition of the people. Servitude, however, is fostered when people are raised in subjection. People are trained to adore rulers. While freedom is forgotten by many, there are always some who will never submit. If things are to change, one must realize the extent to which the foundation of tyranny lies in the vast networks of corrupted people with an interest in maintaining tyranny.
9 Likes
mememonkey wrote:The short answer is yes, based on everything Chris prefaced his interview with Someone Like Icke can be fantastically wrong about many things and still be correct about others and have useable insights as I think this interview proves. It is not an accident that Genius is often correlated with mental illness, Visions, hallucinations etc.Well, by that logic, why doesn't Chris bring one of those Flat Earthers he frequently derides? Honestly, their theory is more believable than many of Icke's...
What has Icke brought into the world besides decades of bunkum? And last question -- why interview a rando like Icke before bringing on a senior medical doctor from a hospital busy treating COVID patients? ~BigBlueIf logic is your criteria, then don't rely on a straw man argument to refute my point. I didn't notice in the interview where Chris, explored the lizard theory, perhaps you listened more closely than I did? I suspect Chris would happily interview a flat earther If they had something interesting to say or were actively doing something, that was relevant to current events, or say perhaps had a record of predictions that now seem eerily prescient.
"Today’s guest has been invited because he was saying that we’d see the emergence of a bio-security police state, a push for transhumanism, and the loss of freedom and imposition of digital tyranny since well before Covid came onto the scene." ~Chris MartensonOr is that bunkum? mm
9 Likes
Sexist much Arthur? Does she really have to keep to a “Feminine Tone?” Degrading response… I thought we were past this shit.
5 Likes
I only knew of stigma against Icke. I have to admit I went into the interview with doubts and he delivered no doubt. We live in crazy town. Made this one the other day…
5 Likes
I think was just Arthur’s way of speculating that “Maria” may not in fact be female.
14 Likes
Being beaten to submit to “the man” is, I suspect, deep in their Egregore. Despite their machismo, as a country they have a lot of training in kneeling. They have been awaiting a new Master for a long time.
As Jung pointed out, racial/institutional memory which is not worked out tends to live on in the collective unconscious. I imagine you have noticed that alcoholism, incest, and other unexorcised demons tend to reincarnate, repeatedly, in certain family trees.
In the United States, the predominant Egregore is embodied in “land of the free and home of the brave” and all those stories of revolution and frontier life which come with the territory. It remains to be seen whether Our Masters, or Our Egregore, will prevail.
“Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it.” -Santayana
https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.149153/2015.149153.The-Rise-And-Fall-Of-The-Third-Reich_djvu.txt
4 Likes
In fact I am a sexist and a racist and I can prove it.
Studies were done flashing images up on a screen at the limits of time perception. The pictures were so fast that the conscious mind was unable to perceive them. When pressed it was found that the subjects were able to first; identify the sex of the image and second; the race of the image as the images were left up for longer periods. (I was not a subject.)
But Dave was correct. I was casting aspersions. I know what My sex is, but you can only assume that I am male. But I trust that your intuition leads you to believe from the style and tone of my writing that I am indeed male.
I assume that you, Jane, are female. But how would I know?
4 Likes
I have been reading rumours from various sources of paid mercenaries in Oz who are playing dress up cop. No proof. Makes sense to me though. The whole over the top police brutality thing has not sat well with me from the get go. For sure there are some zealot cops who will follow orders to the max, but what we are seeing happen in Oz is just so extreme. Looking at videos and pics [if they are to be believed and not propaganda] I do not see your average cops from a largely unarmed Commonwealth country. Maybe I am naive, but I cannot ever imagine cops in Canada standing together in a row shooting fleeing people & kids in the back with rubber bullets. That does not compute, on any level…
Hells bells, cops at our protests stop and talk to us and ask us if we are staying hydrated!! Seriously!
No, these are not regular cops. No way. I see militarized police and special forces, highly trained, executing tactical operations with precision and every increasing force clearly meant to intimidate and suppress dissent.
Mercenaries have long been used in the middle east and elsewhere to support / drive hidden agendas. It is perfectly conceivable they are being used in Oz to quell rising dissent. This too must be seen as part of the propaganda campaign - overt messaging to cower others who are watching from afar.
Yes, it really is about control.
19 Likes
Honestly, their theory is more believable than many of Icke's...I do believe that you are making an appeal to incredulity. I come across that all the time. Of cause appeals to incredulity are not valid arguments. However I permit that they could be backed up with Intuition, but then you would have to concede that Intuition is real; and thereby concede that Mantids might exist.
3 Likes
I haven’t seen this many theoretically paid shills crawling out from underneath their rocks here, in a long time. I like the quote that Dr. Lee Merritt often uses: “when you’re taking lots of flack, you can be pretty sure that you’re right over the target.”
16 Likes
Arthur said: “I trust that your intuition leads you to believe from the style and tone of my writing that I am indeed male.”
Nope. Style and tone of writing have nothing to do with physical sex. Maybe they did in the pink frilly apron 1950s but not any more (though George Eliot proved that premise wrong 100 years earlier). Content, yes, when PP members start talking about their b*lls going off on ski trips. But not style and tone. What style and tone are you claiming as exclusively masculine?
3 Likes
everything we’re seeing in Oz and indeed in the U.S. was seen in 2019 in Hong Kong. police infiltrating and prodding violent acts from peaceful protesters. police pretending to be rioters destroying private property (caught on tape). chinese military masquerading as Hong Kong police (first hand knowledge). tear gas and rubber bullets. pushing people to the ground. soaking people, young and old alike, with pepper spray. people who watched the happenings in Hong Kong will recognise it around the world.
13 Likes
Chris, I’m absolutely delighted to see that you’ve been open-minded enough to interview David Icke. In spite of much ridicule from friends and family, I started listening to him just over a year ago, (when it became obvious that things didn’t add up), and, whilst I do wear a mask, and I do believe that a virus was released, I find his ideas interesting - compelling, even. It’s obvious that he was right about one thing: this is not about health. The man was well ahead of the curve and predicted much of what is now unfolding.
9 Likes