Dave said - “Debt chains you to your current job”. This might be true in the “West”, I say might because a large % of labor does not make enough to incur debt therefore it is that next paycheck that chains those people to their current job.
Globally over 80% of the population lives on $10 or less per day, half of them, 3+ billion on $2 or less. The vast majority of the population of the world has no debt but must do absolutely anything possible for money or watch their children die a slow death.
Debt slavery is indeed a thing but it is the US/Uk and their close allies who decides who gets money(and lives) and who does not (and dies). Look at Iraq, Venezuela, dozens of other examples, and currently Yemen … if you can.
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Good God! I’m in the upper 1.5% of Humanity.
This explains my bad attitude.
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Now that we went down this rabbit hole together can PLEASE interview next:
- Chris Duane - “greatest truth never told”’(silver shield)
- Max Keiser & Stacey Herbert
I think they can add dimension and more solutions to the tribe
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I vote for Chris and Bret to dissect all this – it’d be stellar… with sushi-carving precision.
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Remember how the FDA vaccine advisory panel rejected boosters for people 15-65? The panel of experts from the field? The people who truly follow the science?
OVERRULED.
https://trialsitenews.com/booster-program-decision-cdcs-director-walensky-goes-against-her-own-acip-aligning-with-fda-potus-and-pfizer/
Thank goodness we have a captured bureaucracy that can make decisions independent of these troublesome “experts” and their “science”.
After a lengthy series of deliberations, the majority of the ACIP members opted not to include health care workers, teachers, and other cohorts that could be classified as at-risk. Deviating from the FDA’s findings, as well as the White House’s already announced intentions, the ACIP took a more cautious, data-driven approach to their decision-making. Importantly, in many cases, the dearth of data perhaps leads ACIP members to err on the side of caution. But in a controversial and rare move, the CDC director rejected her own advisory panel’s intensely deliberated decision to limit the reach of the booster program at this point in time.
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Yes, it clearly not following the science - Never the less, mass death will be caused , but most that took the shot are going to die anyway. The unvaxxed will die too because of this - but some will survive.
Biden praises the FDA. while not following the science - Biden has a long list of dirt and bad policy. So, whatever he thinks, doing the opposite is likely moral and legal thing to do.
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Let's get clear about this, Chris: you'd rather interview David "the Queen is a lizard" Icke than publicly admit that you are into the same game?This false dichotomy is risible. You're welcome to your opinions about David Icke, but your projection of outrage or discomfort about Chris interviewing him fails to account for Chris' extensive preamble about the value of gleaning useful information from alternative voices particularly censored, ones or ones that you don't agree with in all or in part and that in so doing does not mean that you endorse everything (or anything) they believe.
Sure, mainstream media shutting down questions about lab leaks or certain drugs has been part of it. It has also been the other part of it that the other side has been gradually positioning themselves anti-vaccine, and you are part of that.This is a false equivalency, understates the mendacity of the organized disinformation campaign by the MSM and discounts the evidence that has emerged regarding the dangers of the "Vaccine" particularly in light of the availability of effective therapeutics that the Government and MSM are actively suppressing.
Let's repeat this again, Chris, because it's worth repeating: you are a PhD in medicine, turned anti-vaccine. What the hell??? I mean, I could believe that you have reached that conclusion looking at the data, but I just don't. First, because the data doesn't support it. Second, because, well, it's got you to the point that you are interviewing David "the Queen is a lizard" Icke. There's obviously something else going on.False assertion compounded with a false dichotomy. I would suggest that you're either not looking at or don't understand the data or you are rejecting the data that has been presented ad naseum here by Chris and others due to an emotional belief system. Or more likely, some combination of all of the above.
So, what is going on? I don't really know. I have a couple of half-baked theories.This I agree with! mm
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I can’t seem to shake the word. But it pretty much sums up we and they and them and us. Maybe the prophetic NWO book should have been titled “THE ACQUIESCED” It just really sounds like what happened here. Or maybe “THE VACQUIESCED.”
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Can you send me some links of videos or posts written by David that reference lizard people? I didn’t know that he said things like that.
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Thanks for yourcomment. Re turning off the TV… I agree. My husband and I have not had one for a decade. We can choose to watch videos, like Peak Prosperity, but we are not tethered to the TV. We do not respond to beeps on a phone tied to the body like a pacemaker. In fact, my phone is only on when I wish to make a call. Meanwhile, a close relative cries while listening to mainstream news…and takes anti anxiety medicines and high blood pressure pills. Just a personal anecdote.
We moved 10 years ago to a remote location where are 3/4 self sufficient, so have much less stress than those who watch the news and experience the disease, inflation, shut downs, and escalating prejudices.
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A more hopeful interpretation
I have listened to David Icke over the years and been impressed with many of his ideas, particularly around the nature of consciousness. He famously says, “know the outcome and you’ll see the journey”. I think it is relatively easy to interpret the bizarre response of western governments to Covid and interpret this as yet another step towards a dystopian future – one where a small cabal of elites own all the marbles, and the rest of humanity lives in a dystopian “Hunger Games” type of scenario.
We may end up with that type of reality at some point in time – but it wouldn’t be by design. Think about it. The elite may be comprised of a disproportionate number of sociopaths and psychopaths – but they also want to be able to enjoy the diversity of the planet. Living a life of relative exile behind impregnable security fences while the rest of humanity toils in despair, poverty, and desperation is no life for anyone. We may get there, but it is more likely to be a function of ecological and resource collapse rather than by design as David Icke surmises.
A more plausible explanation for what we are seeing is one that Chris has posited: that elites are well aware – because they have disclosed this through the World Economic Forum – that we are facing resources challenges. We’ll need three planets by 2050 if we continue to consume at present levels. Something needs to be done to reel in the human condition. One could think that the type of draconian actions taken by western governments are a first step in that direction: a proverbial shot across the bow to get a population accustomed to restrictions on their liberty and freedom. The next shoe to fall could be a climate card, which may result in far greater restrictions in the interest of reducing our draw on resources, saving future generations if not the planet itself.
The problem with these scenarios is that they require a level of collusion and cooperation between political “leaders” that is frankly improbable. It is highly unlikely that all heads of government are quietly and secretly participating in conversations with representatives of the WEF or the elites. If these conversations were transpiring, something would leak at some point – it would be impossible to keep such a bold plan, to essentially reduce consumption and consumerism, from leaking out.
There has also been speculation that the vaccine is part of a plot to depopulate the planet. Think about that too. Everything that governments are doing, presumably at the will of the elites, is about saving lives. While the WEF and elites may think two or three billion less on the planet would be a good thing, the actions being taken in response to Covid are the very opposite. If depopulation were the agenda, it would have been more profitable to have understated the health risk and allowed the virus to spread unchecked. Or even better, unleash a version that had a much higher case fatality rate – and then rush in with a vaccine when depopulation targets have been hit.
In my country, we have just re-elected a Liberal government under Trudeau. Chris has pointed out that the actions being taken to encourage everyone to take the vax target small to medium sized businesses. Is that because our government – and other governments – want to eliminate these crucial business in the interest of large global companies? No. Unfortunately that is the business segment that can be targeted as a way to motive non vaxers to get their jab – restaurants, gyms, public arenas, etc. Our government can’t target large businesses like Walmart, Cosco, Business Depot and certainly not grocery food chains. To do so would be to deprive individuals who have opted out of vaccination for whatever reasons from actually living. That would be pure evil. That in my opinion is not the intent.
So what is going on?
I submit to this group – this tribe as Chis refers to us – that what we are witnessing is human emotion and the premature institutionalization of a narrative around Covid. That narrative was hammered out 12 to 18 months ago, and it basically promoted the idea that this virus is extremely dangerous, particularly to older individuals. Once an idea is institutionalized, it means government and big business rallies around it. Changing that narrative takes a lot of time and effort – because opposing or detracting viewpoints are derided and rejected at every opportunity. Exactly what we are seeing with the Covid response.
Nina Teicholz does an excellent job of showing how ideas get institutionalized in her book: The Big Fat Surprise, which destroys the conventional wisdom around eating saturated fats. To this day, despite a great deal of new information most people still avoid high fat dairy and meat because they believe it to be unhealthy and likely to cause high cholesterol and heart disease. This idea was institutionalized by self-serving packaged goods companies that were not interested in promoting what is correct or right, but a narrative that favored their unhealthy food product(s). Doctors, health advisors, and nutritionists still advise against a diet high in fat.
I don’t think it is a stretch to suggest that we are seeing a similar response to Covid. Government “leaders” aren’t trying to destroy SMBs and march their populations into servitude – to do so would be an unelectable platform that will in short order ensure they are removed from office.
Instead, politicians are responding to an idea that “we” have been far to quick to institutionalize. Being politicians – taking actions they believe will be optically in their best interest – they will take drastic actions to ensure the elderly and children are protected at any cost. They simply can’t and won’t take a chance that Covid could be rather benign – because the endorsed, institutionalized narrative says otherwise. This is not evil, it is the action of misinformed and risk adverse public officials responding to an extremely emotional issue: the protection of the most vulnerable in our society.
I would prefer to believe that this is closer to the truth than attributing the draconian Covid response of western governments to some plot by the elites to enslave humanity; it seems more hopeful.
But I could be wrong.
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- I read this 21 years ago, even before The Crash Course and amazingly, it's still around. His lens included and was largely based on the end of oil. He predicted the elites would have to unleash a bioweapon once the effects of the loss became hard to ignore.
- https://dieoff.com/page185.htm
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DKN - I saw that too. PBS radio made it sound like the decision was universally in favor.
I am beside myself… and I just want to smack that myself up-side the head.
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we see as far as the knees and get very excited.
The Assumption that David makes is that the top of the pyramidal society are “psychopaths”.
They are not. At the knees we find the Mantids. They are insects, not psychopaths. Pyramidal societies are Insect societies. (Ref Dr. David Jacobs, et al.)
Who knows what lies further up the skirt. I certainly don’t. The imagination boggles.
The difference between David’s view and mine is that I Know that my bubble of knowledge is incomplete, and am content to chip away at the walls. David thinks he has all the answers. He will have to agree with me when I say that he hasn’t.
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whoknew –
David Icke has claimed for decades that the world is run by a secret cabal of shapeshifting lizard aliens:
Thousands of years ago, the reptilian beings [from the constellations Orion, Sirius, and Draco] intervened on planet Earth and began interbreeding with humans. Not physically, however, but rather through the manipulation of the human coding, or DNA.You can get a full background on Icke's proclamations over his life here https://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/10/17/david-ickes-theory-of-the-reptilian-human-hybrid-apocalypse/#_ To your request, here's one of many videos in which you can find Icke defending & affirming his belief in a sinister alien lizard race controlling humanity's destiny: https://youtu.be/1w2dMekIJLw He's known for many other outrageous claims, including announcing on TV back in the early 1990s that he was the 'the Godhead in a physical body' (comparing himself to Jesus) and that a planetary calamity was imminent -- which of course didn't happen https://youtu.be/8HvHwtTrv7Y Can this site claim intellectual integrity when willing to invite someone like Icke on as a featured interview guest?
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Your tone is awfully masculine.
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This nut job has been wrong so much with his outrageous claims I refuse to give him any attention. He needs to be cut off of making money and fame by being an utter crackpot. I’ve been so sick of his bullshit that never happens and gets invalidated because of it. I don’t know how people try again with someone who has repeatedly shown how he is. Yes, Einstein had it right: More of the same expecting different results. Come on now. I’d rather listen to Biden and Trump than him.
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Problems have solutions. Predicaments have outcomes. Or somesuch. (Apologies Dr. Martenson)And seeing I am in the mood for quotes, From Ingo Swann "Resurrecting the mysterious"
It is good to always bear in mind that the denial of matter and the physical creates just as many lunatics as does the denial of the paranormalI pick it from a rich treasure of beautiful quotes. Further; because I reject the entire edifice of Abrahamic monotheism, I recognize no "Satan".
All evil stems from the stupidity of people who follow the priests. Our Oera Linda.So you want a solution to our predicament? Attack it's assumptions vigorously. Attack the notion that we are condemned to remain on the surface of this microscopic Orb. Attack Einstein's "Bent Nothingness" daydream. Attack all physics "Models". (No Gladys, LIEGO didn't detect movements 1/200 the diameter of a so-called neutron over several kilometers.) Attack the notion that the sun is a great nuclear fireball in the sky. Ref The SAFIRE experiment. Dust off Dr. Gerard K O'Neil's solution. We have to take Gaia off-world. It is for this reason and this reason alone that she tolerates our existence. (And No. Mars is not a destination. The Void is.)
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This nut job has been wrong so much with his outrageous claims I refuse to give him any attention. He needs to be cut off of making money and fame by being an utter crackpot. I've been so sick of his bullshit that never happens and gets invalidated because of it. I don't know how people try again with someone who has repeatedly shown how he is. Yes, Einstein had it right: More of the same expecting different results. Come on now. I'd rather listen to Biden and Trump than him. ~Sedona DennisAnd
Can this site claim intellectual integrity when willing to invite someone like Icke on as a featured interview guest? ~CbeachThe short answer is yes, based on everything Chris prefaced his interview with. I for one don't believe in space lizards, although I'll confess, The prevalence of Hillary Clinton and John Bolton types in the halls of power, does give one pause.. Someone Like Icke can be fantastically wrong about many things and still be correct about others and have useable insights as I think this interview proves. It is not an accident that Genius is often correlated with mental illness, Visions, hallucinations etc. Would you object to Chris interviewing William Blake, Nitzche or Nikola Tesla? Indeed, I think the value of David Icke's insights in this interview maybe a direct function of what you see as his crazy wiring. "Mental health research claims that individuals experiencing various states of psychosis will filter stimuli differently than the average person. Psychosis allows the human brain ‘to ponder contradictory ideas simultaneously and gain insight into loose associations that the general unconscious brain would likely not consider worthy of sending to consciousness." This is not unlike the insights one potentially gains from hallucinatory experience, Aldous Huxley one of the twentieth Century's greatest intellectual visionaries who's Brave New World vision we are now unfortunately living was interestingly enough, a big fan of the mescaline! Also curious, apparently DMT and Ayahusaca reportedly produce transformative out of body experiences, that include very common repeatable 'experiences' to include talking lizard guides.. At any rate, I evaluate everything, on it's own merits. I also weight any information I have about the source. In the case of Icke, I factor his certitude and confirmation bias evident in his persistence of the lizard theory over time more importantly than the "craziness" of the theory itself. that tells me about his tendency to "fit" observations to his "facts." Still, I found this interview to have some very interesting and valuable insights and I came away richer in my own tool kit in my ongoing search for truth. I don't go into any interview thinking anyone has all the answers, I assume they are describing the part of the Elephant that they can sense, with the worldview they have. I trust myself to filter and evaluate accordingly. mm
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It does seem to be about control. And many of the things he said in this interview do seem to match up.
Here’s the really funny thing. The more people come out of the woodwork to bash him (“OMG! The Queen of England is a lizard!”) the more I want to listen to the interview again. Its as if - even if he gets the lizard thing wrong - who knows, maybe they are insects, like Arthur says - his framing is accurate enough, it represents some serious danger to “someone.”
Certainly they say something similar about Martin Armstrong. “But he was in prison!” Sure. But is he right? At this point, that’s my sole focus. “Is he right?”
Just last year - say in March - I assumed CDC, FDA, and NIH were there to keep us healthy. When Raoult came up with HCQ+AZI, NIH would run off and test it in a quick 2-month trial and save America. Boy, was I wrong. “Outrageously” wrong. So after my 18-month outrageously wrong-about-NIH COVID experience, I now wonder - what else have I been wrong about?
I mean, we all know UFOs exist. What if they are playing some role in human history that we don’t quite understand? Certainly I’m leaving that option open. That’s why I don’t bash Arthur for his contributions. He could end up being right. The extent of the UFO influence on this planet is a known-unknown. My mind remains open. Especially after COVID.
Thanks for the flak. That’s one of my filters during the Fourth Turning: if you try to close my Overton Window, my response: look more closely.
I was wrong about NIH early last year. Outrageously wrong. I mean - who would have predicted “NO TREATMENTS FOR YOU!” Not me. So I could certainly be wrong about Lizards too. Or Insects. Or whatever.
I’m definitely going to listen to the interview again. This time, I think I’ll take notes.
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