"It's About Control": An Interview with David Icke

I’m open to criticism on my comments below.
I’m guessing most know about the Milgram experiment. Here are a few videos on it, if you are unfamiliar.
https://youtu.be/Kzd6Ew3TraA Summary
https://youtu.be/rdrKCilEhC0 Longer version
https://youtu.be/Xxq4QtK3j0Y Modern unscientific version
 
I bring it up because it has been on my mind a bit recently. How could the bottom of the pyramid refuse to acquiesce when about 2/3 will go along with something so obviously terrible if told to?
What if the requests from the authority…
a.) aren’t as directly terrible as shocking someone to death,
b.) are explained as right action,
c.) are backed up by all available data (mainstream media and censored internet),
d.) are supported by friends and family and,
e.) are imposed upon a populace that is clouded by the fog of strong emotions (fear) and have been trained their whole lives to follow orders from authority?
 
Under those conditions, do you think more or less than 2/3 would follow those requests?
I know that I am a terrible dinner party guest. I bring everyone down. I don’t have the optimism that the bottom of the pyramid will refuse the requests of the top. I do believe that the top of the pyramid has enough power and tools to do what they want.
 
Just because I want something to be the case, doesn’t mean that it will. As an example, “The FED is going to get what it deserves!” There’s not much evidence of that. Occupy Wall Street looked like the start of the rebellion, a much needed rebellion, but nope.
I don’t want to be the person in the concentration camp saying, “See I told you that things were going to get better! Things are starting to turn around. They are letting us take showers.”
I don’t mean any offense by that. I want to learn from history. It seems to me that the right choice of Jewish Germans in the 1930’s was to get out of there. When you can’t stop it, then get out of the way. None us can stop more than 2/3 of the populace following orders.
 
The only hope that I see is if “they” over play their hand: too many terrible orders, too fast, with voices of descent able to sneak in public view, but “they” can just back off a bit allow things to settle down and try again or try a different way. My wife says that if they don’t like the result of a vote, then they will just revote.
Will

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May I suggest that you consider interviewing Russell Brand? Your concerns align in some parts, but seem to differ in others, and I think it would be a very entertaining, and possibly educational, conversation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfxnKgCN3OY
https://youtu.be/WzFasRjQuB4

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"In other words, the early freedom of the internet might have been a “bait and switch.”
Or just simple, classic market capture 101… Make something free or easily accessible - then put up the price when you’re hooked in…

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Every whistleblower situation I have ever looked into talks about an environment of insecurity where everyone is afraid to speak out, afraid to question authority no matter how egregious the situation. They all recount how so and so lost their job for asking questions or stating something was wrong/bad/harmful.
I don’t know of a single person who would risk losing their job, who could afford to lose their job. Especially if it is a high paying job and doubly so in this current employment situation where pay is stagnant, benefits are going, going, gone, cost of living going up, uncertainty increasing every year.
This is why people do what they do and it is true all the way up the ladder until you are in the million dollars a month club and even they feel the insecurity, maybe even more so.
Maybe most of you have not ever been in a situation where you didn’t know where your next check will come so you can pay rent/mortgage, food, car, phone, health care. Add in some children and the fear factor skyrockets. Anyone who has been there will do just about anything to insure that never happens again.

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Good suggestion DaveM - no pressure on Chris :wink:
I would add Dr John Campbell (I know he watches Chris’s videos - but don’t dis jabs…).
Robert W Malone MD
James Lyons-Weiler
Dr Richard Flemming
Kevin McCairn PhD (discoverer of the ‘covid zombie’).
Dr Paul Cottrel.
Brett Weinstein

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I would love to see an interview with Robert Malone.
Definitely.

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Great interview with David Icke. Sorting out who “they” are is not an easy task.
I need some time to think through what it all means.
 

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https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2021/09/23/whats-the-plan-stan/

….The “sick” will be sent off to hospital-prisons, where they will be “treated,” like it or not. The building blocks of this regime are already being laid, as in Australia. As in the state of Washington, where it has come to light that an “isolation and quarantine facility” is being built – and jobs listings for “strike team” members have been posted. This isn’t Alex Jonesian “conspiracy theory.” It is publicly established fact.

For the moment, no one is being forcibly “relocated” by these “strike teams” but the language is alarmingly suggestive – and so is the prior behavior of the various state and now federal Gesundheitsfuhrers, who are clearly bent on forcing compliance with their prescriptions.

It would be prudent to prepare for what’s next – while hoping it never comes and doing all we can to prevent it from coming.

If you are “locked out” from commerce – from your current job, from being able to shop at most stores – because you refuse to roll up your sleeve and present your “papers” – will you be able to provide the necessities for yourself and your family? Everyone – who isn’t willing to submit – is at risk from this threat and had better be thinking about it and what to do about it.

The risk can be greatly reduced by lessening your dependence on your current job – if it is one that may become conditional upon the rolling up of your sleeve – and by making yourself more independent of stores that won’t permit you to shop, absent Proof of Jab.

Many Americans are vulnerable – because they have bought into a lifestyle of debt-service that has made them dependent upon a high-paying job. They earn a lot, but it doesn’t accumulate, much – because of the endless expenses.

How to continue paying the mortgage on the expensive house without a high-paying job?

That is the trap, set carefully – many years ago. The very rich don’t have to work – which is what makes them independent. But one does not need to be very rich in order to not have to work for a corporate employer. To be at liberty to change jobs when a given job becomes unsatisfactory – or insufferable.

Live in a smaller house, in a more affordable area and suddenly, you are rich – in terms of the freedom you now have, to say no.

To do something else.

Many people have been quietly doing this over the course of the past year or so. There has been a mass exodus of people away from the “hot spots” – of medical and financial tyranny (in the form of usurious taxes, including property taxes) and toward areas of the country where one can live freer, for less – and often, better.

The best scenario of all being home ownership – to the extent such is possible in a country that perpetually taxes things even after they have been paid for in full. Even so, to not have a monthly mortgage on a 1,500 square foot home will liberate you from the chains around your neck that come with the $1,500 per month mortgage payments on a 3,200 square foot home. If you own your home, they don’t own you. Even given the obnoxious taxes on what you own, which are far less than a mortgage payment – especially when not in addition to them.

Most property taxes can be paid for via part-time work.

If you don’t own your car, get one you do own.

By selling the one you don’t.

The market for used cars is bubblicious right now. Cash in – and pay off. Use what you have to buy what you can afford. Now you can afford to say no to any boss who tells you to Jab. Is having a touchscreen in your car worth being enserfed?

Take your kids out of government schools – which you’ll be able to do now, because you can easily live on one income rather than two. Now they don’t own your kids. No more “masks” – and never a Jab.

If you buy a home away from the hot spots, you will likely own some land along with it. Even if it’s only half an acre, that’s enough to have a garden and perhaps some poultry, to provide eggs, ongoing – greatly reducing your food dependence. You will also connect with people of like mind, build refusenik networks of people who have – like you – cut the ties that bind and who are thus much less vulnerable to being “locked out” of that which they have already kicked to the curb.

We can do this. Provided we stop playing by their rules.

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Yes; debt = slavery.
Debt chains you to your current job. If you lose your job, you lose everything that you’ve bought using borrowed money.
So if you are in debt => you must take the shot.
Debt = slavery.

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You can always count on me to lower the tone ?

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https://www.theepochtimes.com/florida-judge-halts-citys-covid-19-vaccine-mandate_4011700.html

A judge in Florida on Wednesday blocked a city’s COVID-19 mandate from taking effect.

Circuit Judge Monica Brasington, a Sen. Rick Scott appointee, granted a request for an emergency injunction. That means the mandate, which was slated to take effect on Oct. 1, is blocked for now.

“The city did not put on any evidence, at all, at the injunction hearing,” Brasington wrote in a 7-page ruling.

“Without any evidence, the court is unable to consider whether the vaccine mandate serves a compelling interest through the least restrictive means, whether the vaccine mandate meets a strict scrutiny test, a rational basis test, or whether it meets any other standard,” she added.

Gainesville’s City Commission on Aug. 5 decided all city employees needed to get vaccinated against the virus that causes COVID-19. A week later, City Manager Lee Feldman ordered employees to get at least one dose by Oct. 1 and be fully vaccinated by Oct. 14.

More than 200 Gainesville employees sued, noting that the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines in stopping transmission of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus has stopped. They also said that the mandate did not make sense because many of them have natural immunity, or protection from having had COVID-19, and because area hospitals were not experiencing a shortage of beds.

In a recent hearing, the employees argued that the mandate violated their right to privacy under the Florida Constitution.

That means defendants have to show that the law “furthers a compelling state interest in the least restrictive way,” Judge Brasington said.

But the city submitted no evidence, called no witnesses, and did not file any affidavits or declarations, leading the judge to rule in favor of the plaintiffs.….

Unfortunately, the city probably didn’t didn’t put on any case because they know the judge(s) they’ll appeal to will rule for them.

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it is still worth watching. Would you rob someone at gun point? Before this video, I would have said, “No.”
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtMMsFoHuY&ab_channel=DerrenBrown
How much are we unknowingly being manipulated?

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Let’s get clear about this, Chris: you’d rather interview David “the Queen is a lizard” Icke than publicly admit that you are into the same game?
Sure, mainstream media shutting down questions about lab leaks or certain drugs has been part of it. It has also been the other part of it that the other side has been gradually positioning themselves anti-vaccine, and you are part of that.
Let’s repeat this again, Chris, because it’s worth repeating: you are a PhD in medicine, turned anti-vaccine. What the hell???
I mean, I could believe that you have reached that conclusion looking at the data, but I just don’t. First, because the data doesn’t support it. Second, because, well, it’s got you to the point that you are interviewing David “the Queen is a lizard” Icke. There’s obviously something else going on.
So, what is going on?
I don’t really know. I have a couple of half-baked theories.

  1. You (and just about everybody else) are trying to get people to “wake up” by forcing the issue. David Icke said it straight: “Well, I hope no one will follow me. This is how we got into this mess, following people.” Then commenters showed how much attention they were paying and how much self-respect they have, by respecting David Icke and not respecting themselves enough to ask around their circle of friends looking for any nurses or doctors that could be first-hand witnesses to any questions they have on covid.
  2. One of the commenters said something about whether it’s possible to keep a sane society at the scale it’s being tried. I wonder if that’s what’s going on. It may not be so much a question of size, but of information pyramids. Enough inequality in the information pyramid, and you can’t have a sane society. Maybe that’s how it is. But if it really is a pandemic of madness what you are trying to prevent, it seems to me that you are doing it wrong. I mean, supposing that’s what’s going on, I’d hope a prepper site might be able to provide some info on how to weather that storm. I don’t know, maybe I’m just being too naive here. How true is it that you can affect somebody’s health by hypnotising them, or something along those lines? I have no idea. The problem might be far more complicated than it seems to me.
  3. If it’s all about control, any techie can tell you that the way you know the chip that controls any circuit is the one with the most legs (the most inputs and outputs). So of course I believe that control is at the top, where people get the most info about public opinion and the most listeners. Where else would it be?
  4. But then, control may have become totally constrained by the environment, and that would be resource issues having complete dominion over our destiny, or something along those lines. Which again might explain the situation.
    I don’t know if any of these ideas is about right, or a combination of them. Why can’t somebody say things straight, for Chrissakes?
     
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A little legal explanation. This quote from the judge is crucial:

“Without any evidence, the court is unable to consider whether the vaccine mandate serves a compelling interest through the least restrictive means, whether the vaccine mandate meets a strict scrutiny test, a rational basis test, or whether it meets any other standard,” she added. (Emphasis supplied by Mike from Jersey)
The two clauses that I bolded are crucial. The "strict scrutiny" test is a test applied if a Constitutional right has been found to be violated. The "rational basis" test is a test applied if no Constitutional right has been found to have been violated. If the court applies the "strict scrutiny" test, the mandate will be found to be unconstitutional. If the court applies the "rational basis" test, then the mandate will be found to be constitutional. I won't go into a detailed explanation of that but, trust me, that is nuts-and-bolts Constitutional Law 101.
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Are you really this far behind?

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MariaDWhite,
You wrote:

Then commenters showed how much attention they were paying and how much self-respect they have, by respecting David Icke and not respecting themselves enough to ask around their circle of friends looking for any nurses or doctors that could be first-hand witnesses to any questions they have on covid.
That statement is simply not true. I have been asking doctors and nurses (as well as others) questions about Covid 19 and the vaccines. I know others on this site have been doing the same since I see their posts on this page over and over again.
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Sure, there are certainly savvy sociopaths whose plans for humanity spell ruins. But in the US have we not been at least complicit in the construction of their power penthouses? How many Iraqi children were bombed due to the yellowcake that didn’t exist? Where was our outrage? The Libyan head of state was ghoulishly deposed and our government cackled. Where was our outrage? We flaunted our theft of Syrian oil. Crickets. We don’t like so much the head of Venezuela so it’s okay for us to decide for them who that should be, and, failing that, since their gold is in stored in London we can just take it. Silence.
So now we face some purebred sociopaths who have ascended the escalator of corruption long under construction, and now see we are really in trouble. I see many hospital whistleblowers coming forward, and I sadly expect much more death. The painful times ahead could be a time of great spiritual progress, but as I see it, this must include the humility and realization of our own involvement. I read elsewhere that we may see many suicides among the good doctors and nurses as the consequences of their actions can no longer be overlooked. Their agony will be real.

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Maria,
These photos captured at Windsor castle tell a different story;

 

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Folks outside of the middle 50% of the bell curve aren’t getting the jab.
That’s my anecdotal observation, anyways.
Bias is a factor, obviously (Ignorance vs. Intelligence).

I mean, I could believe that you have reached that conclusion looking at the data, but I just don't. First, because the data doesn't support it.
Could you please clarify this?
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Just got my result that I’m C19 positive.
I work at a mining camp in northern BC where I shared a bathroom with a guy (double injected) that was coughing for days and then tested positive. They got me to do a rapid test which was negative but I was feeling OK at that time.
Got home and started feeling rough. Crushed it using the FLCCC I Mask+ protocol outpatient treatment (page 2). Took 0.4mg/kg IVM pony paste (about 6 notches on the plunger) once a day.
Felt improvement immediately and much better after 4 days. Stopped the daily IVM after day four but continued all the supplements, mouth gargles and nasal spray.
Dr Peter McCullough is really talking up the gargles and spray which is interesting.
Slight cough now but feel pretty good.
Glad to have tested the home treatment kit and looking forward to getting an antibody test next week.
My wife (unjabbed as well) and I live in a 600’ apartment where I coughed all over her for days and she got nothing. She’s all sad about that but may have already had it last year. She’s getting an antibody test next week as well.
All in all ?? for FLCCC I Mask+

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