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I'm a black Irish atheist with some Swiss German in the mix born in the midwest, living in New England.
I don't care about Israel. I don't see how what they are doing in Palestine is any different than what Saudi Arabia is doing in Yemen. Genocides happen everywhere. Arthur feels that it is happening in South Africa. Maybe it is, I don't know. Why is Israel exceptional?

I will tell you what though. When somebody mentions the Rothschilds over the Rockefellers or the Morgans or the Waltons. I know what they are trying to sell me.

The resources that are spreading lies about an Austrian artist group, baselessly calling them Mossad agents (they are non-Jewish Austrians), look for ways to change as story so that they can reinforce their belief that the Rothschild family and as a result Israel because of their faith runs the world. So many lies have even been posted in this thread. I have refuted several of them. Not because I am a Mossad agent (sorry T2H), but because I like facts and coming to the best conclusion possible based on the available information. 

I feel as if I have only posted facts and my opinion based on those facts, and if you catching me telling a lie. Call me on it. That's how we learn.

You don't learn without somebody challenging your belief system

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To state that

I don't care about Israel. I don't see how what they are doing in Palestine is any different than what Saudi Arabia is doing in Yemen.
is to show either profound historical ignorance or willful blindness. Some might even consider it a lie. PP.com, however, is not the place for that discussion. Take it to Mondoweiss.net. Your belief system will face a very rigorous challenge in short order there.
Why is Israel exceptional?
Or, rather, why is Israel so exceptional to you? What is your game?

Black, Irish, atheist or hasbara-bot? One wonders…

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Thanks Time2Help,
Do you know why you are here at Peak Prosperity? It's because you thrive at knowing there are other people that share your belief system. That's great.

However, there are some here who also have a strong belief system, and they are here because they want that belief system challenged. That's how they know they are right. Arthur Robey, Sand.Puppy, HughK are members who WANT to have their belief system challenged. I can learn from these people. I WANT to learn from these people.

You on the other hand want confirmation in your belief system and when somebody challenges that belief you call them Israeli agents. You line them up in a list and call them out and tell them to go back to highschool. That's great.

I will tell you this though. I can't learn from you. I don't want to learn from you because you are not wise. You are very smart, but you are not wise.

You have nothing to offer that I want. 

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You know what, whatever happened to the metal of the twin towers, it's a minor point compared to the real driver of all this trouble which is the idea that god is speaking to some certain people telling them they are special. God isn't doing that, so it's all a fight over, literally, nothing worthwhile. The scientific truth of a melting point is a drop in the ocean compared with the mass of ancient superstition.

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I'm white. black Irish is a term for Irish folk with black hair. Re-reading that post, it totally sounded like I was saying I was black. Sorry.
 

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no conspiracy here…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpmRcP8S7Bo

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I do not understand. Do you mean Jet A-1 or Jet B?
How much of that was present in Building 7?

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haha the Walmart family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walton_family

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There, fixed it. Putting words into other's mouths is impolite.

At last, something you and I can agree on.

It is not that I am unwilling to have my belief system challenged, or that I am unwilling to learn. I have been and continue to be, from this thread in particular, but not from you.  It has been from the likes of debu, Arthur, nickbert and kelvinator.

I am a devout believer in the power of human intuition, and over the years I have learned increasingly to trust mine. And my intuition tells me that this man speaks a truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ

You are not assisting me in learning any new truths. Rather, you are obfuscating. You have consistently thrown out traffic cone upon roadblock, using a variety of approaches and disparate topics, aimed at what I can only assume is scattering of thought. I can summarize your entire moribund train of thought over the past few days of posting in three words, “don’t go there”.

A piece of advice - the effectiveness of your approach in convincing someone of a particular viewpoint or topic will always be, to a large extent, dependent on the type of personality you are dealing with. For some people, attempts to derailing their investigation of a particular topic based on a perceived need to defend your own belief system may backfire. In the case of many on this site, and to an extent myself, this is a truth.

Said another way, If I am turning over stones and you tell me to “stop, don’t look under these stones here!”, or more to the point “you are an anti-Semite if you turn over those stones!” it does nothing but peak my interest in those particular stones. Particularly when it involves an ongoing internecine struggle between disparate tribes.

And please do not waste your time with the Collective Guilt™. In my mind, this now flashes immediately when it is offered.

As I have found nothing worthwhile in your posting over the past few days, and as it is my belief that your intention is to obscure efforts in investigating this topic, and frankly agitate and incite, I have set your username as “blocked” for all future postings and messages. I will not be reading any of your posts beyond this point.

If you do not want to hear what I have to say then for the sake of others on the site I would ask you to please consider doing the same with mine.

I wish you well.

T2H

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  1. What's the point?
  2. What would it solve?
 
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This term has come up several times now in this topic thread, and it's new to me so I thought I would post it's Wikipedia definition and articles from a few sources for any interested. As always, please take it all with a grain of salt - "hot topic" and all.
Public Diplomacy, or "Hasbara" in Hebrew (Wikipedia)

Make ‘hasbara’ a household word (Mondoweiss.net)

[quote=Mondoweiss]Hasbara, which comes from Hebrew for “explaining,” has come to mean chiefly propaganda: concerted and tireless efforts to pressure newspapers and governments whenever they say a word in favor of Palestinians or Arabs, efforts to swarm websites that make the same mistake. The activity is concerted, organized, and subsidized; and the organized component is partly concealed. Anyone who’s seen the regular shift changes in commenters at this site knows what I’m talking about.

New York Times readers are apparently not aware of this term, and they should be. Thanks to Mackey, we want Americans to start using the word hasbara with all its cynical implications. After all, other foreign words have entered our language because we need them– schadenfreude, apartheid, chutzpah, glasnost, to name a few. We need hasbara too. It describes a concerted form of propaganda that no one word in English captures.[/quote]

Hasbara (Wordnik.com)

Israel Is More Focused on 'Hasbara' Than It Is on Policy (Haaretz)

Edit: This would explain a few things.

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Do it with data. That's what I want. That's why I am here.

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…massive false flag imminent. Too many people are openly asking about and questioning 9/11 and Paris.

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My sense is that its less Operation Northwoods, and maybe more COINTELPRO: covertly-encouraged violent activity put into action in order to achieve a result.
Security services in France got a whole bunch of new money, as did the military, and austerity was explicitly abandoned just days after the operation.  That's straightforward cui bono analysis.  Security people inside France who may well have felt legitimately concerned about both ISIS and all the migrant flow could conceivably have encouraged and/or facilitated this operation in order to make the point sooner rather than later that the world is a dangerous place, and that defunding their service in order to meet Brussels austerity agenda is a really bad idea.

In other words, an existing extremist group with violent tendencies was used as a cats-paw by the national security apparatus in order to get the agency re-funded, austerity abandoned, border control re-established, and power reclaimed from Brussels.

And it worked.  Either it was a well-run operation, or a fantastic stroke of good fortune for the national security apparatus of France.

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af·fec·ta·tion
ˌafekˈtāSH(ə)n/
noun
behavior, speech, or writing that is artificial and designed to impress.

It does beg the question, exactly what "wildlife" is being "tracked"?

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So basically get enough of a disparate/desperate cultural group into an area by allowing them to enter as "refugees" or "asylum seekers".  Then use them as false flag cover patsies "in a fantastic stroke of good fortune" to allow for expanded rights restrictions, surveillance, expanded powers, etc.

Got it. 

I wonder, how is that recent big immigration push into the US proceeding right about now? 

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Though I do not have any expertise on the Sandy Hook event, I have heard a number of inconsistencies pointed out that cause me to not be able to trust that it occurred as we are told.
James Fetzer is a philosophy professor from the University of Minnesota active in the 9/11 truth movement.  He recently compiled a book "Nobody Died at Sandy Hook" that gathers and summarizes the many inconsistencies in this story.    I have thumbed through it but not read it closely.

Fetzer was selling it on amazon.com but it has now ceased to be available in what appears to be a private  administrative decision by amazon to not list it.  He is giving it away for free in a pdf that can be downloaded here.

I would suggest anyone interested nab a copy before this distribution route is closed off also.

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I'm a certified wildlife tracker. I'm on this list as level 3.
http://trackercertification.com/trackandsign/

It's a passion. It's the origin of science. I love it.

We all have hobbies and passions right? 

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I have a hard believing that nobody misses these children

Thinking of how many people interact with children daily. There must have been thousands of people that could confirm or deny these children's existence right? You would think 20 or 100 people would have come forward saying that these children were not real right? Teachers, parents,other children?

I think that's the conspiracy right? That it was faked?