As an addition to this: vitamine C “titration to bowel tolerance” might be useful for self-treatment (link). The link in this blog to the page about Dr. Carthcart is dead. It used to link to this paper (link).
True, it is not rtc etc etc. My personal experience: while I had COVID-19, up to 150grams of vitamin C per day was tolerated without bowel problems. I used it under the assumption that this high doses would protect me of major damage while testing the effects of quinine, artemisinin, artemisia annua, NAC, zinc etc. Unfortunately, the ivermectin hadn’t arrived yet, and I didn’t know about Niacin yet.
Grts, Dave
Couple things about C:
- NIH paper on the slight increase in effectiveness of oral liposomal vitamin C. More effective orally than non encapsulated C but not near intravenous. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4915787/
-http://orthomolecular.org/ 50 year history of promulgating large quantities of vitamins for health purposes
You are right! Chris is making money on this and… I love it.
I’m not gonna dismiss anything you say as it’s your opinion. We can lurk so much information Chris is shedding without spending a single dime on it, because PP is mostly free. The paywall is to fence off some censorship sensitive material and to have a member discussion that should not be publicly available and yes, it also pays for the dream Chris & Evie have (rightfully so!). Imagine that Chris would work an office job, he would probably make more in any other commercial capacity than running this “gig” but he would not have enough spare time to dive into the matters a lot of people care about.
If you care and are able to support Chris, do so, no strings attached. If you won’t, all the best to you and feel free to enjoy the free content. If you can’t afford, then first and foremost sorry for your hardship, but the same applies, enjoy the free content, there is tons. In all earnest, when a buck a day is challenging, there are probably bigger fish to fry than hanging around PP. Even then, welcome to have you.
There is a lot of info on the FANG channels like YT that’s completely free, judge for yourself where your time is spend most wisely.
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And I haven’t even listened to the whole thing! Great job Chris and the team and kudos squared to Dr. Kory. Gives me hope and inspiration.
Two things jumped out at me from this interview.
- The insistence of randomized controlled trials holds back the advance of health care. This is not to say that such trials are not useful. It is just that the insistence on them as the only valid evidence for allowable treatments hamstrings medical advances. I think that the same is true for “peer review.” Peer review has an upside but it also has the downside of ossification of thought by limiting publication to only those studies supporting consensus belief systems. It seems that any great advance based upon creative insight (randomized control trials, peer review, etc.) always concretizes into dogma which prevents further advances rather than facilitating further advances.
- Medical censorship (just like media censorship) is worldwide. Some group is behind this or it would not be so uniform. Whomever it is, is dangerous. Predictably counter-censorship groups are forming which could be the beginnings of radical and desperately needed change.
There are no free lunches.
If the service is free, you’re the resource being mined; you’re the product being manufactured; you’re what’s up for sale.
I remember when I could not afford PP. I consumed all of the free information. It’s no stretch of the imagination to assert that many of the things I learned here helped me to become more financially independent.
Now, some good/bad news: you discovered an oasis of truth, but you got here too late. If you’re currently unable to afford $1/day, then you’re not likely going to be able to afford to shore up resiliency resources, like a deep pantry, water storage, redundant equipment stores, animal husbandry, etc.
If you subscribe to Netflix, but can’t subscribe to PP, then your priorities are completely f**cked. Those of you who got here in the last 18 months have some difficult choices to make.
Most of us have had over a decade to mentally and emotionally prepare for this moment in history.
Sorry, guys, I am hijacking this thread because I am a tech. challenged old curmudgeon.
Dave, you do such great research, do you have an opinion on alpha lipoic acid (ALA)? I have started taking it as part of my anti aging protocol. It is also suppose to be able to reverse the peripheral neuropathy of type2 diabetes. Thanks.
If I had to pay for all the critically important info I have acquired over the last 10 - 15 years I would have gone broke. I live very simple and can not pay for all the info I need.
If I had money there are around 30 or 40 really good folks on the internet (in my browser I have more than 50) that I would really love to give money to so if you have it give it out. None of these sites keep information behind a paywall so the money they get is in appreciation for specific content.
The other problem with subscriptions IMO is that this means that the site NEEDS to keep leading people on, drawing out the info, never coming to conclusions as that could end the discussion. I have seen very good information sites slowly degrade due to the struggle to remain relevant.
I like Chris alot but he doesn’t have but a fraction of the critical information needed, has some of the wrong info, and does not say certain things that need to be said, and not just the banned stuff. Nobody I have found has a broad enough understanding of what is going on and talks about it openly…well… except maybe Dr Zach Bush but even he thinks capitalism can save us.
Just about all information on the internet can be found for free…as it should. In fact all of the information available on PP was retrieved for free.
The inner bark of a south american tree, Pau d’ arco, supposidly has anti viral, anti fungal and anti cancer properties. I have heard about it for years, being used in Mexico for childhood leukemia. Looks promising. Check it out.
Edit: Also, it is suppose to be a blood thinner.
Like many things in life, affordability choices are about personal priorities. How many people buy a coffee everyday - cost between 1-5 bucks depending on your taste. How many people buy their lunches at work, and eat out with family several times a week? Those things alone, never mind all other wasteful ways people spend money amount to far more than enough to pay for a premium subscription.
It is all about personal priorities. I suggest that the people who are legitimately complaining about the cost (not the trolls) do not yet understand the serious predicament we are in, or what this site is really all about. In terms of positive impacts on my own life, PP and so many of its contributors to discussions have given me a positive return on investment that is largely intangible. ‘Dividends’ include a level of physical, mental and emotional preparedness that give me confidence and sets me apart from the oblivious masses.
Choices are influenced by situational awareness and life priorities. As many here know, the vast majority of people are completely unaware of what is really going on in the world - we would not be in this mess if there was more awareness. Thus they are unwilling to make a small investment that will help them to mitigate personal risks. Subscribing here is a bit like buying insurance. Many choose to forego a home or life policy saying they cannot afford it. And then something catastrophic happens, and all of a sudden, those monthly premiums look like they were a great deal… It is all about priorities and choices.
Many years ago, I used Pau d’ arco for treatment of chronic fatigue syndrome. I got better over about six months. I honestly don’t know if Pau d’ arco helped since I tried everything imaginable. But it seemed that I started getting better when Pau d’ arco was started. You can use it in a tea. I still have some.
Is there any evidence that it is specifically good for Covid 19?
For me, the quality of research, the guests, the webinars and the members’ commentary is so high at PP that I prioritize my subscription. It’s a lot in Canadian $ and I feel it. I understand that some people don’t want to spend their money that way,or don’t have the money at all. Up to you, not mine to judge and hope your finances improve if that’s the issue.
What I don’t understand is why anyone would expect that the considerable time, money and responsibility costs of running a website like this and doing all that information scouting would come for free. Don’t ask me to spend 40 hours a week doing anything for you for free. Chris delivers extraordinary, ahead-of-the-curve, actionable, life-changing content and I thank him for it and pay with a smile. It’s the price for access to information and community that I find invaluable. If paying doesn’t work for you, there’s lots of free stuff all over the www including here.
my 2 cents
Susan
I would love to see us find creative ways to welcome as many people as possible to this site. We don’t know what someone’s circumstances are when they say they can’t pay $30 a month. We have no way of knowing if that is a lack of priorities, as some have suggested, or if it’s a broader systemic issue of the vast majority of us being crushed by an economic system attempting to perpetually grow on a finite planet!
We don’t know if that new person is a recent graduate attempting to pay off exhorbinant student debt. Or a disabled person attempting to live off inadequate disability payments. Or an elder living on a fixed income. Or a single mom trying to decide between keeping the lights on and feeding her kids. We also don’t know if that new person might just be the one who pushes us just over the critical mass needed to end the disinformation playbook being used against IVM. I don’t think we are sitting in such a secure position that we can afford to squander a new mind engaging with this information because there is no way to know where that particular mind will go with it.
For that reason, I wonder whether Chris could offer a student rate? There would be additional admin time for verifying student IDs and such, but it might make a huge difference to the younger folks on this site. I also wonder if those who have the resources to not think twice about plunking down $30 a month for a subscription, might be willing to subsidize the cost of some kind of scholarship fund? Again, that would be admin time, but to make it simple, you could do it by lottery. I don’t know, five slots a month. People can sign up to get their name in the hat. Something to consider.
I can tell you that when I joined this website in 2009 I was living below the poverty line. But I would subscribe for one month, here and there, just to see key posts. And now that I am earning more money, I subscribe regularly because it matters to me that this website continue to be able to offer actionable content within the framework of the 3 E’s. It is the only website where I am willing to pay for a subscription. I intend to continue as long as I am able.
No one here is saying that they want someone to work hard and not be paid for it. ALthough I work harder than most anyone I know and make very little. That is what I get for farming and going back to the land. I guess I should go into banking/finance.
I do give money via tip jar when someone really does some fantastic work as do most people but the current PP system says give us $300 or Eff Off. I understand the desire for community, like minded folks, “tribe” or whatever but having to buy your way in is kinda like going to a hooker, not that I have anything against hookers, it’s just not the same.
I would suggest that those who are subscribing to websites are people who are way too busy making money to research for themselves and are mostly clueless as to how bad things really are. This is a recipe for consuming misinformation. I don’t trust anyone 100%.
I am often accused of knowing all of what I know because I have time to spend researching on the internet. It is my observation that I spend a fraction of the time that most “smart phone” users spend online but I do not watch cute puppy vids, pablum, or follow entertainment news.
I would bet that over the last year and a half Chris would have made as much or more through a Tip Jar from the millions of hits than the subscription thing and no one gets left out.
I totally support the Libertarian Socialist option (read: community supported).
My story is somewhat similar to yours, yagasjai. I didn’t even make an account for years.
I have trouble with this issue, because you need a metric to discern the people who buy-in and the coat-tailers who contribute nothing but static. I was once poorer than I am now. I would be willing to sponsor or partially sponsor qualified candidates. The question is, how do you identify deserving candidates?
TONS OF VITAMIN C TO WUHAN China Using Vitamin C Against COVIDby Andrew W. Saul, Editor-in-Chief Orthomolecular Medicine News Service(OMNS February 23, 2020) We can all agree that 50 tons of vitamin C pretty much qualifies as a megadose. We can also likely agree that trucking 50 tons of vitamin C, straight into Wuhan, full in the face of the COVID-19 epidemic, qualifies as news. The news media are not reporting this, or any other, significantly positive megavitamin news. Loving the photo, but needing authentication, I consulted my physician correspondent in China, Richard Cheng, MD. He confirmed it, saying: "This was reported in the Chinese media about 2 weeks ago." Another translator has also independently verified the accuracy of the translation.
DSM, by the way, simply stands for Dutch State Mines, the Netherlands-based parent of DSM Jiangshan Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd. The Chinese division has been recognized as a "China Enterprise with Outstanding Contribution to Social Responsibility." https://www.dsm.com/countrysites/locations/jiangshan/en_us/home.html There is another DSM factory in Scotland, which also manufactures vitamin C.
We are so used to being lied to that the truth is like a diamond in a five-and-dime store: you can't believe it is real because it is mixed in with the fakes. News of nutrition-centered treatment of COVID-19 has been branded "fake news" and "false information." I say that what is "false" and "fake" is the deliberate omission of any news of health-saving, life-saving measures already underway to help the people of China and the rest of our planet. .
Here is more verified but still unreported news of high-dose intravenous vitamin C against COVID-19 in China:
Summary1) Three repeatedly confirmed vitamin C for COVID-19 research studies are going on in China now. http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n12.shtml 2) Confirmation has also been obtained that 50 tons (yes, tons) of vitamin C has been donated by a major C manufacturer and trucked to Wuhan. 3) The concerned public is receiving only "be-scared-until-we-vaccinate-you" news. 4) Sharing information on COVID-19 vitamin therapy research has now been systematically blocked by Facebook and other social media giants. 5) The news media are not reporting on any of this. Therefore, I ask that you take it upon yourselves to do so and share all this with everyone you can.Nutritional Medicine is Orthomolecular MedicineOrthomolecular medicine uses safe, effective nutritional therapy to fight illness. For more information: http://www.orthomolecular.orgFind a DoctorTo locate an orthomolecular physician near you: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v06n09.shtml The peer-reviewed Orthomolecular Medicine News Service is a non-profit and non-commercial informational resource.Editorial Review Board:Ilyès Baghli, M.D. (Algeria) Ian Brighthope, M.D. (Australia) Prof. Gilbert Henri Crussol (Spain) Carolyn Dean, M.D., N.D. (USA) Damien Downing, M.D. (United Kingdom) Michael Ellis, M.D. (Australia) Martin P. Gallagher, M.D., D.C. (USA) Michael J. Gonzalez, N.M.D., D.Sc., Ph.D. (Puerto Rico) William B. Grant, Ph.D. (USA) Tonya S. Heyman, M.D. (USA) Suzanne Humphries, M.D. (USA) Ron Hunninghake, M.D. (USA) Michael Janson, M.D. (USA) Robert E. Jenkins, D.C. (USA) Bo H. Jonsson, M.D., Ph.D. (Sweden) Jeffrey J. Kotulski, D.O. (USA) Peter H. Lauda, M.D. (Austria) Thomas Levy, M.D., J.D. (USA) Homer Lim, M.D. (Philippines) Stuart Lindsey, Pharm.D. (USA) Victor A. Marcial-Vega, M.D. (Puerto Rico) Charles C. Mary, Jr., M.D. (USA) Mignonne Mary, M.D. (USA) Jun Matsuyama, M.D., Ph.D. (Japan) Dave McCarthy, M.D. (USA) Joseph Mercola, D.O. (USA) Jorge R. Miranda-Massari, Pharm.D. (Puerto Rico) Karin Munsterhjelm-Ahumada, M.D. (Finland) Tahar Naili, M.D. (Algeria) W. Todd Penberthy, Ph.D. (USA) Dag Viljen Poleszynski, Ph.D. (Norway) Datuk Selvam Rengasamy, MBBS (Malaysia) Jeffrey A. Ruterbusch, D.O. (USA) Gert E. Schuitemaker, Ph.D. (Netherlands) Thomas L. Taxman, M.D. (USA) Jagan Nathan Vamanan, M.D. (India) Garry Vickar, MD (USA) Ken Walker, M.D. (Canada) Anne Zauderer, D.C. (USA) Andrew W. Saul, Ph.D. (USA), Editor-In-Chief Editor, Japanese Edition: Atsuo Yanagisawa, M.D., Ph.D. (Japan) Editor, Chinese Edition: Richard Cheng, M.D., Ph.D. (USA) Robert G. Smith, Ph.D. (USA), Associate Editor Helen Saul Case, M.S. (USA), Assistant Editor Michael S. Stewart, B.Sc.C.S. (USA), Technology Editor Jason M. Saul, JD (USA), Legal Consultant Comments and media contact: drsaul@doctoryourself.com OMNS welcomes but is unable to respond to individual reader emails. Reader comments become the property of OMNS and may or may not be used for publication. Click here to see a web copy of this news release: https://orthomolecular.acemlna.com/p_v.php?l=1&c=139&m=143&s=8869402df4a2f95c5a6e7f9371e834d1 |
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