Proof! Charlie Kirk Was *Not* Shot With a .30-06 As Claimed

What kind of armor plate, a very thin armor plate, could cause a bullet travelling faster than sound to turn at a 60 to 90 degree angle when fired from 140 yards? At that speed and mass, any deflection; up, down, right, or left by an armor plate would be negligible from the bullet’s velocity vector, wouldn’t it?

Check out the slow-mo videos of the bone-in pork roast. The physics of any appreciable deflection doesn’t seem to exist, and the armor plate would necessarily be seen under the t-shirt rising into the t-shirt cloth in the actual Charlie Kirk slow-mo impact videos. It’s not there indicating no armor plate or any kind of chest protection at all.

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Some interesting and I believe relevant information using a ballistic gel dummy and shooting from above and behind.

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Um, yea, I’ll try to stay on topic, but I’m with you. I always related that sign in sexual connotations. Spent a few years as a kid in Venezuela. Incredibly beautiful country, with beautiful women and men who ruled with a fist and where the rent-a-cops carried Berettas and Uzis, as well as the National Police. Lots of Cubanos, hey, even learned about the Bay of Pigs! Quite educational, and not always above the belt (we just seem to hide it better in the states)

Israel also figures into the movie’s plot line

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It may be subtle, but you may find this useful:

If you look it up, there’s some overlap between the hand gestures, but the one on the right is commonly used for “I love you”. Sometimes a similar gesture is done by people at metal or rock concerts, but often done in a defiant tongue out pose, which I assume is not intended to have the same meaning.

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Aaaah Heaven & Hell :heart_eyes: even though Black Sabbath to me is with Ozzy, this song is brilliant!!

As brilliant as Beavis & Butthead :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Hahaha their brains crashed in blue screens at the mere sight :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Jokes aside, through the trans ideology is how I discovered Charlie online. I have been fascinated for years that certain obvious things had to be discussed and explained, warning friends and family that this madness was on its way to Europe.

Ridiculed at first, now not so much so… From part of my Dutch family’s side actually looked upon as the black sheep merely for insisting that two of my female cousins aren’t really men.

I do believe that some individuals are born feeling like the other sex, and in my view every adult is free to do what they want as long as it doesn’t harm anybody else. But basing and promoting this abnormality as the norm of society, absolutely no way!!

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So I have heard!! Would love to visit, I do have a natural attraction towards South America I have to say!!

Ah, I have never heard this expression before,… Like punching below the belt?

Yes, I did some digging too, and it is an ambiguous hand sign, considering its creator being a theosophist.

Either way, beyond the calibre round used there are a lot of very strange things that happened around Charlie’s death, a truly bizarre story.

Hi Allan,
The plates are normally big enough to provide some protection to the lungs / heart areas.
I have not seen any visual support for the bullet on the edge of a small plate theory in the form of shirt printing, movement, hole, frayed cloth and such. If you see some support please let us know. thanks.

I mentioned it one year ago.

During a tropical storm, corrupt Atlantic City police detective Rick Santoro attends a boxing match at the soon-to-close local arena between heavyweight champion Lincoln Tyler and challenger Jose Pacifico Ruiz. He meets up with his best friend since childhood, U.S. Navy Commander Kevin Dunne, who is escorting Defense Secretary Charles Kirkland and Arena director Gilbert Powell at the fight after a trip to Norfolk, Virginia.

Okay, it is only the surface of the story. There are two groups. One group tries to stop a deployment of a failed weapon system.

The hidden weapon-system corruption

  • The film reveals that the missile-defence system called “AirGuard” (backed by industrialist Gilbert Powell) was being tested; however, the test results were faked to make the system look effective, when in fact it was deeply flawed.
  • The analyst Julia Costello discovered the deception: she learned that the system didn’t perform as claimed and warned the Secretary of Defense Charles Kirkland. With this secret uncovered, she becomes a target.
  • Meanwhile, Powell’s company stands to gain massively if this weapon system is green-lit. So the conspiracy is engineered: the boxing match, the assassination of Kirkland, the diversion of attention—all serve a cover for preventing the truth about AirGuard from coming out.

The two groups, their motivations and clash

  • On one side: Julia Costello (and eventually the detective Rick Santoro) represent the “truth” side, trying to expose the corruption, prevent the flawed weapon system’s deployment, and protect lives of people who would be placed at risk if AirGuard fails.
  • On the other side: the conspirators (including Tiffany’s childhood-friend turned Navy commander Kevin Dunne) represent the “cover up / profiteering” side: they want the system deployed (or at least pretend it works) to maintain power, profit, and avoid accountability for past failures (such as naval losses that Dunne witnessed).
  • The clash is thus not just a personal betrayal or a murder mystery, but a battle over systemic failure, risk and concealed truth: lives may be lost if the system is deployed or used under false pretenses.
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We have the american sign language I love you sign.:love_you_gesture:t2: We also have W doing the hook em horns sign. Trump and the tattoo guy are doing the “devil” sign.

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Scenes: two sides

Aguila sells a 60 grain rimfire cartridge. I’ve never tried them, but I’d imagine the chamber would have to be throated deeper lol.

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To my best knowledge, the judge ordered silence. They won’t release any information.

But if you want to test further rounds, I propose to put some mics almost behind the target. According to my calculations, there is a zone of silence - an anti-Mach cone after the projectile hits the target. This cone is perpendicular to the Mach cone. Within it the shock wave cannot be heard. Perhaps we can use that information.
So it would be great if someone can test that.

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Robie, this was posted at PP probably 3 weeks ago. Unraveling the Mystery of Who Assassinated Charlie Kirk and Why - LewRockwell

For me it was the most complete plausible why and how.

This got my attention: “This theory is the only one that explains the extreme billowing of Charlie’s shirt in front and back. Additionally, it was discovered that a company in Tennessee, Accurate Energetic Systems, received a contract from May-August 2025 to manufacture “miniaturized demolition charges anti-personnel to support special purpose missions.” AES delivered the product and then the factory was totally demolished in September prior to the murder.”

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By the way, Cullen assumes a remote trigger. Two simultaneous gunshots.


(We should not ignore a possibility, just because we don’t like it.)
In 3D, however, there is no total simultaneity. When the alleged weapons are not so close to each other, the reports have different delays at different locations.

Unfortunately, I failed with TDoA. When we don’t exactly know the round, at almost any location has a pair of muzzle speed and velocity drop combination to get the observed delay.

Simultaneous to who?

The recordings we have are from all over the event horseshoe.

I can immediately dismiss the idea of a slickly coordinated simultaneous firing system because the reports would show up at different times based on where the camera mics were located.

It’s not that “I don’t like it” but rather there’s no evidence for it besides unprovable conjecture, coupled to the fact that we can’t find evidence for it on different phones.

Unfortunately, I failed with TDoA. When we don’t exactly know the round, at almost any location has a pair of muzzle speed and velocity drop combination to get the observed delay.

Nick and I tried for a bit early one, but gave up on TDoA …it’s too complicated in that environment without knowing the round used as you said.

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Yep, I misspoke. The .22 LR I displayed was 45 grains.

In particular it was a CCI subsonic.

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@cmartenson

Great experiment, better than Brandon Herrera!

Please take some pig ears with you during your next experiments and try grazing them with an AR-15.

I would like to know what such ears would look like afterwards.

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