The amount of energy required to turn the bullet 90 degrees would certainly severely deform and fragment it.
For those not familiar with the various rounds. Note that the same .22 LR is in both the pistol and the rifle line ups.
You left out a few of my favorites:
.50 BMG (for light armored vehicles and aircraft)
20 mm for heavy armored vehicles and small buildings
And the shoulder separator .700 Nitro Express for enraged elephants and rhinos
I have no expertise with guns, but I do know math and programming. Here’s a crack-bang analysis of 10 video recordings establishing that the Losee roof was the most likely source of the rifle shot hear in those audios:
This does not address any questions of the weapon, bullet type, or shooter’s identity. But in my mind any theory must reckon with the probability that the shot heard on the recordings was fired from the location the official story suggests.
A minor point on the concept of “evidence”.
We know something unusual happened: a man was assassinated in front of a thousand witnesses, and the pieces of the story don’t seem to fit together. That means something unusual happened: a Mosad plot, an Alt-Right flase flag, am LGBT+ conspiracy…or maybe just a defective or modified bullet.
I lean toward the anomalous bullet theory, but I have no expertise there. I just want to say that although the evidence is not conclusive, and the theory may be wrong, to say say there is no evidence of an anomalous bullet is disingenuous.
I’ve seen the video and first thing came to my mind that it was high energy light bullet that fragments on impact, something like 55gr 5.56 HP.
So ive got a small question
How could anyone up on a roof such as Robinson or higher, be able to see Charlie when he is in the middle of the tent. Seems likely that Charlie would be concealed from view
Seems like Tpusa has something to hide
Seems like the fbi is still controlled by an outside force and not for Truth and Justice
Seems like of Nation is gone
Magic bullets, jfk, trump, Charlie Kirk, how many more
Gunny
Your calculation is similar to mine, with some alternations, like you used law of sines (I used law of cosines). But the main difference is, that you assumed constant deceleration. (By the way, in Butler case we calculated polinomials for a bunch of projectiles, see below.)
The problem is the degree of freedom (DoF). At almost any location choosen arbitrarily, you can find a bunch of pairs of initial speed and velocity drop. Actually infinite number of pairs, as a function. So what we could do is: calculate those functions (it is not a vector space nor a tensor space, but even worse. A space of functions. And we should compare all to each other. It is a sweating job, even for Laplace’s deamon.)
Butler:
unfold for details
By the way, once I used a special techic to slow down audio, more than possible. Each digital sample to be converted to one (or more) full period of sine. Here 2 second original audio takes 40 seconds.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Z1XggDLvgsMym_uFGEiJGGj68cZjTZf1?usp=sharing_eip&ts=691264ee
We should guess the bullet speed - somehow.
Our brains use some intuitive Bayesian inference, even if we don’t know about it. And my intuition says it was a not very high speed bullet. Just above the sound speed.
If we had synchronised clocks…
So, how to synchronise those footages?
Perhaps when Charlie says “counting or not counting” - but the sound propagation delay from PA to mic must be taken into account. Unfortunately, I have no idea how many loudspeakers were distributed.
I’ve been still thinking…
I really like your take on everything in your video. I have a decent amount of knowledge in reloading and my father has even more knowledge than i. You should reach out to me for sure to further discuss other bullet types and if tyler could have used a reload. I personally dont think it is possible to even have a target load or vermin load get stopped by a spine but it could be a factor (1 in 500 chance id say)
Good job. Loved the experiment. I have done some audio stuff, would be happy to compare notes if it helps
It seems that you did not take deceleration into account at all. It probably doesn’t matter, since the bullet was in flight for so short a period, but it doesn’t improve the model.
But I tested each hypothetical against 10 witness records, and the Losee roof was the clear best match. If I’d only had 3 or 4 witnesses, you’d have a point.
Looking at your crack-bang analysis, I can’t tell what videorecording(s) you were using, the locations you used for the witnesses, nor how you determined the crack-bang interval from the recording(s). Those are crucial aspects of any analysis. I can’t evaluate your work with that information.
A minor point: my understand is that TDoA refers to analysis of the same sound reaching two witnesses, whereas crack-bang is analysis of two different sounds reaching the same witness.
Note also that my introduction of deceleration into the analysis is a first step towards your suggestion, “If that’s true, the entire model would need to be reworked to incorporate velocity as a function of distance
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Interesting, but are you really getting any more information tham you would by just looking at the wave form and spectrogram?
Unfortunately we don’t have much information to rely on timing. I was more looking at the terminal ballistic effect. Here is 62gr bullet HP https://youtu.be/fMzuqCzTOac?si=AxPsxOA4GMzlPXW6&t=183. I am certainly not an expert on the subject, however after spending fair amount of time at the range, the sound seems to be close to .223 cal rifle.
Could have a fragment of the bullet entered Charlie Kirk’s neck hitting the blood vessel and nerve without exiting? Perhaps the bullet broke apart and only a fragment entered. If a .30-6 had engravings could that make the bullet’s integrity weaker? Or if the bullet partially hit something and the remaining fragment still entered Charlie’s neck ? If possible try shooting a bullet with engravings.
Per Chris’s previous videos, something stopped the heart. We did not see blood pulsing out the wound. Even beheading a person, the heart continues to beat for a short period of time. Some massive damage immediately stopped the heart. Shockwave from bullet might have stopped the heart mid beat… but that requires accepting the bullet entering the neck at a much higher angle than has been reported.
No sir, the SSS is a 60gr bullet matched with a 22 short case. Will chamber into a regular 22LR.
The barrel will actually need a twist rate that is different from the most common 22LR rate of twist to properly stabilize and give you the accuracy as well as subsonic qualities.
There, now I have nerded out and can check that box for the day!
Fascinating, as always. According to a TPUSA spokesman Andrew Kolvet, the coroner found the bullet “just beneath the surface of the skin.” (source) That implies it wasn’t deflected.
Chris already mentioned the possibility that it was a fancy round.
Maybe another possibility (?) - Reports say the bolt-action Mauser belonged to Crooks’ grandfather and was passed down to him. I wonder if his granddad’s rifle didn’t come with some ancient ammunition that had been stored under less-than-ideal conditions since the late 1960’s or early 1970’s.
Not at all. They didn’t say where under the skin. Nor did they defined how far under the skin. Tell us exactly where and how far below the skin. Also, what was the condition of the organs in the chest cavity. Were they liquefied, or completely intact and should be functional?
High tech round with some unknown technology, purchased by a furrboy? Extremely highly unlikely.




