So It's Back To First Principles (Part 1)

I think he refers to a journalist photographer, who was near the stage.

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Do I understand this right, that he’s saying Murcko packed up his rifle to move to a room closer to AGR 6 once he heard that there was an armed man on the roof?

I was looking at the windows on Collins’ bodycam, and it looks like the easternmost of the southern windows of that 2 story building was closed as of a few minutes after the shooting. The 2nd easternmost window was open, though.

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The easternmost window is in an open area, like AGR 6 has, according to Murcko. When he says the “first room,” it is the conference room and it has the second most eastern window. That window, and a few others, did not work, which is why they didn’t choose them for their sniper nests. He had to force open the conference room window and rip out the screen, per his testimony.

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Unfortunately, my efforts failed. I jumped through a bunch of hoops with Det. Sedlacek, communicated back and forth on their OOR portal, etc. They did a nasty trick to run down the clock where they sent a reply on Dec 2, but not to me, so I waited until their deadline was up on the 18th to contact them and complain.

The trick Sedlacek opted to use was to say they had conducted a search for the documents I wanted, and didn’t already have them, so they couldn’t provide them. That’s silly, because we already know Nicol has or had the documents, and Sedlacek refused to say whether she’d simply contacted Nicol.

I’ll make one more attempt to get the original photos from Nicol, but it’s not looking good. Sorry.

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Oh, that silliness. There are people that think JFK’s driver turned around and shot him, just because there was a little glint of light shining off his hair gel. Like no one would have noticed???

There’s also the theory that the Secret Service guy in the following car that pulled out a rifle after shots were fired was the one that shot Kennedy, because “ballistics”. Again, no one would have noticed?

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The shots from South theory was interesting because Trump’s blood spatter ‘seemed’ to be from South to North…until you see the photo of Trump’s head pressed to the deck with his nose pointing down, causing two blood lines to flow toward his mouth.
Handgun shots from South are beyond belief, because Copenhaver’s arm was hit 0.04 seconds after Trump’s ear, with the same bullet.
Even the infamous rail impact shot wasn’t ‘simultaneous’.
It was a full 1/4 second ‘early’.
NBC should try to get ahead of the other networks by making a full confession, and saying, “multiple shooters”.

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south side western windows 1
south side western windows 2
south side eastern windows 1
south side eastern windows 2
south side all windows 1
south side all windows 2

behind the portable chair

ladder at gate 1
ladder at gate 2
ladder at gate 3

s-w corner
s-w corner cops
s-w corner cop 1
s-w corner cop 2



#https://youtu.be/P3N6CV2owsY?t=181

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you went above and beyond, no need to say sorry :slight_smile:
They’re acting as expected when in need to hide something.
Thank You for all your effort to get the truth out.
Happy New Year to You and everybody here in PeakProsperity :slight_smile:

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It was on a Twitter account. It seems people were coping and pasting from man original source from somewhere, but i don`t know where. They dis not say from where and who from behind him [Trump] I think they were talking about a shooter taking 2 shots at the podium.

They are also saying the shooter at the podium Lundged at trump first, then fired the 2 shots before the first audio shot. I have managed to debunk this the 2 shots were fired simultaneously with the audio shot 1. The 2 shots past trumps left hand side of his head, and the audio shot passed his right side of his head clipping his ear. I have used software to slow down the video right down to 0.1% speed. I have managed to capture the 2 shots, got stills from the video. As for the audio shot, unable tom capture the shot it was too fast and i cannot slow down the video any futher.

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DA: Suspect named in 2017 Parks Township double homicide | Front-page | leadertimes.com

Thoughts on this being a potential ID?

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Another good find. Definitely looks like a match to me…especially the bridge of his nose. Add to that his Cpl. chevrons and I’m ready to add him to the RecognitionTools. What video and timestamp did you you find him in?

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Media interviews initiated by DA.

Q: The Secret Service?
A: No. Well, Secret Service, they had scheduled interviews with us. They didn’t want to talk to me yet, and then they had canceled.
I did it up in Butler at one of the hotels.

Q: Okay. Homeland Security? I mean, I don’t know.
A: It might be a Homeland. Well, there’s a former -
An independent review panel.
Q: All right. They did talk to you. And again, nothing from those are different in context?
A: No.

Q: You also did a media interview?
A: Yes.
Q: I’m just curious like how did that come about? What was the purpose of that? Why did you guys agree to do that?
A. So, I mean, that was more the boss’s decision.
Q: Detective ?
A: I think his boss, to be honest with you, which would be the DA, .
So originally it was like we’re not speaking about this to the media, blah, blah, blah.
And then after one of the testimonies in Washington, D.C., there was some stuff said that kind of wasn’t a hundred percent and it kind of made it look like we didn’t do something. So it was asked to be corrected and it wasn’t.
So that’s how the media got involved.

Q: To your knowledge, was that the testimony given by Director Rowe, or you’re not sure?
A: It wasn’t. It was testimony given by the colonel from the state police. And it wasn’t anything on his – like him throwing anybody under the bus. I think it was just a question that was asked about leaving post and some other things.
He basically said that both of us had left their post and the building was left unoccupied, and then a question was asked by – was it Bishop, the senator?

A: I don’t know. One of the senators asked a question that if the two snipers had stayed in their position, would they have had a shot at Crooks, and he said he doesn’t know. So that left some, you know, holes in it for whatever.
So our office had reached out to the state police and asked them to clarify, and they said, “No. We’re sticking with the testimony.”
So Butler had done some interviews, basically, because they had some of the same concerns and then left immediately.
I wouldn’t have done it.
I mean, I got requests from everybody but Al Jazeera.

Q. So let me clarify then. Your perception is you guys are initially. Then you hear a bunch of stuff that you know not to be true. And at a certain point, the DA’s like, “All right. We’re going to do something to make the record clear because we were there. We know what happened”?
A: Yes.

Q: On that note with the counter-snipers, did you have any communications with any of the counter-snipers on Secret Service?
A: No.
Q: No communications with Special Agent ?
A: I don’t even know who that is.

Q: Did you have any view of Secret Service from where you were in the AGR complex?
A: I could see them on the buildings.
Q: From when you were up there, did you view them looking at your building?
A: Not really. I mean, I knew where they were. It wasn’t like I was watching them. So I don’t know what they were looking at.
Q: Which is important because, as a sniper or even a counter-sniper, either way you want to know where other people with guns are; is that right?
A: Yeah. Earlier in the day I had an idea because they had told us that they were going to be on those two barns, but originally I think we were told they were going to be there at 10 or something and didn’t show up until, like, 2.
And like I said, I knew where they were going to be prior to them getting there.
And then once we were told that they were onsite, then, you know – like I said, it wasn’t like I was looking for them, monitoring them, but I knew they were there.

Q: You can’t trust lawyers. So anything you would have done differently personally?
A: I never really thought about it that way because if you think about stuff that way –
– you’re just beating yourself up. But I mean, what happened happened, and what I did was what I thought was right at the time.

Q: But let me ask you maybe an easier question.
One of the things, you know, at an event like this moving forward, what are some of the things that you wish they would have given you or that would be necessary for you in a similar role to be told in advance?
A: I mean, I don’t want to say site assessment, but site awareness is big for me because like I said earlier, if this was a project that we were running here in Beaver County and I was having other sniper teams come in, I would have brought them in a day or two before and not just for – you know, like brought you in and said, “Okay. Here. In this building here. Have at it.”
I would have brought you in and showed you the whole site.

Q: usually you would have some other patrol or some other unit behind you kind of watching your backs as you were looking outwards
A: So I mean, the way we do things, somebody would be there. So that’s why I said I think I assumed that somebody would be there.
So, you know, when we do something, we would have somebody watching that building.
That’s probably why I didn’t ask that question because I just assumed that it was done.

A: I mean, if you’re going to put somebody on a roof, you can’t hide them, for one.
And, you know, events, I mean in my thought on it and my interpretation and my experience, at a large-scale event like this, typically you don’t want all your hands shown, but you do like to show a presence.
So, you know, if you put counter- snipers behind the stage, people are like, “Well, shit. There they are.” But not knowing you had ten other teams out.

Q: Did you say you had a scheduled talk with Secret Service but that was canceled?
A: So the Secret Service there – I don’t know what they call them – their internal affairs or whatever, their professionalism – they had reached out to us about interviews, and originally we were going to the Federal Building in Pittsburgh, and then they wanted to talk to everybody. And then they said no, not me, because – I don’t know why. They said, “We’ll talk to him at a later date.” And then they had then canceled all of them. They were supposed to have one last week.

Q: do you have any knowledge of whether or not the Secret Service had a clear idea of where you were located?
A: Do I have direct knowledge? No, I have no idea.
Q: Okay. And that wasn’t part of the OPS plan at the time to tell you the Secret Service knows you’re here and they know what you’re –
A: Yeah, I have no idea.
Q: Did you make an assumption that they knew you were there and they weren’t going to shoot at you?
A: I had hoped because there was actually some though of, whenever I was moving around the building, that –
A: As I was moving around the building a couple of times, you know, I was thinking in my head. I’m like, “Man, I hope I don’t get shot.”
But, yeah. That’s typically why you don’t move once you’re assigned somewhere, you know. You don’t –
Because they’re looking for not necessarily a gun, but if they see something moving in a window that they don’t know is friendly, it’s a target.

Q: To your knowledge, has there been any plan or effort to kind of reconstruct what occurred by Beaver County, by the people that you work with, to improve anything relating to protecting site visit, events, things like that?
A: I’m not – other than what we did with that and, you know, just typical talk, not really.

Q: Would you have expected more of a faster response from command when you tell them there’s a range finder, a person using a range finder?
A: Yes. I mean, I think some of the issue was manpower.
Because it’s my understanding that the two initial officers that showed up were actually guys that were posted on a traffic detail away from the event.
So I mean that just shows you the lack of manpower. So, you know, that’s probably the biggest issue.

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It was approx 4 minutes after the 10th shot.

10th shot #https://youtu.be/EbO_6zhmPgk?t=38
#https://youtu.be/EbO_6zhmPgk?t=295
#https://youtu.be/EbO_6zhmPgk?t=345
(There was a similar footage.)
#https://youtu.be/6Jqts9gtn3I?list=PLsbC53bZUNE95a6TaDSTuyt4FllaeNntr
#https://youtu.be/uOtDLUU-TSI?list=PLsbC53bZUNE95a6TaDSTuyt4FllaeNntr
(Not found now, an old man with grandson at fence.)

Tactical ladder comes:
#https://youtu.be/EbO_6zhmPgk?t=187

Wow, looking into the windows of AGR at night.

Mysterious injuries:

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Yeah, I was going with the nose and with that hairline, along with the chevrons, thought I might have him!

In Blasko’s cam, 122125, he comes into frame near camo shorts by the motorcycle around 18:26:01:

Blasko walks up, and we get a few better shots of him as Blasko’s talking with him and Tanner.





I’ve also got him on Collin’s dashcam, M500-010482, he’s the one that remains outside when Nicol and the first group make entry to the building:



He may show up elsewhere, I’ll see if I can’t find where he responded from. He was present when they first reentered the building, I wonder if we can find him in the gate ramming/crossing.

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I was wrong, the 2nd window is not a restroom - probably no window to that.

There was no camera at the corner.

O0ops, there is some reflection on the window, flashing red light.

Additional footages:

etc.

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And thank you again, @kincses-zsolt, I believe we’ve got our ponytailed BobbieJo here again at the gate ramming!:


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It seems a special “body language” or what.

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Thank you! This one works good.

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I think it’s the “or what.” Third from the left. (I couldn’t resist. :wink:)

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sheriff and 3 ssp

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