So It's Back To First Principles (Part 1)

copilot:

Ah, that’s a great question—especially because it seems counterintuitive at first. We usually think of drag as a resistive force, one that slows things down, not speeds them up. But in certain cases, drag can indeed accelerate a body. Let’s dive into a fascinating example that might be what mechanical engineers are referring to when they bring up this “quiz” or conceptual twist.

:parachute: Case: A Folding Parachute or Tethered Object

Imagine this scenario:

  • A payload is falling with a parachute that’s not yet fully deployed.
  • As the parachute catches air, its canopy opens, and the surface area increases suddenly.
  • The drag force on the canopy increases dramatically, and if the payload is tethered to this expanding canopy, the sudden tension in the lines can cause the payload to jerk upward—a momentary acceleration in the direction of the drag force.

So even though drag acts upward (against gravity), it causes positive acceleration in that direction when the payload was previously descending faster than the new drag can instantly match.

Ah yes, a classic setup in projectile motion! Without air drag, this projectile would trace a perfect parabola, curving downward due to gravity while maintaining constant horizontal velocity.

But here’s where things get interesting: once you introduce air drag, especially at high speeds, the trajectory starts to deviate significantly from that textbook parabola.

:wind_face: With Air Drag: What Changes?

  • Trajectory Becomes Flatter Initially: Since drag acts opposite to the direction of motion, it begins reducing the horizontal velocity almost immediately.
  • Longer Time to Drop Initially, Then Steeper Fall: At first, drag slows the horizontal motion without strongly affecting vertical motion. But over time, vertical drag also increases, and the projectile drops more steeply than it would without drag.
  • No Symmetry: Unlike the clean arc of a drag-free parabola, the path is no longer symmetric. The descent is generally much steeper than the ascent.
  • Range Is Reduced: The projectile won’t travel as far because it loses energy to the air as heat and turbulence.
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That’s okay. Video evidences and testimonies tell us the wind was calm at that moment.

I should have said “ToughOldBird’s body blocks shots from a wide arc of northern angles”

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Then does Copenhaver’s arm flinch only because he’s frightened by Trump’s final speech word: “OOooohh!”?
Or is the real sequence of Bullet 1 that it

  1. hit Trump’s ear
  2. bounced East off DJT’s ear to hit Copenhaver’s arm
  3. bounced West off Copenhaver’s arm to hit rail top, after it sneaked west between ToughOldBird’s body and his right arm?
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Well, we have now reviewed all the data from the drone footage in that video, and we are all in agreement on the values.

However, Gary did not provide the sea level of the stage, nor did he mention the bleachers in his video. This is critical information if one wants to perform analyses such as bullet trajectory calculations and back-tracing the bullet’s path.

The only additional detail he gave was the estimated height of Trump’s ear. On this point, I fully agree with @phasefive: the estimated position of the ear is far too high. Furthermore, Gary’s mention of a ±1 ft tolerance also raised doubts about the accuracy of his calculations.

So, let’s evaluate Trump’s ear height in detail:

I was able to learn how to draw directly in RandyMajors.org, which has been a game changer for evaluating accurate sea levels. I copied the positions from my CAD model and plotted it on RandyMajors. Based on this, the sea level of the stage is 1,336.117 ft, resulting in a difference of 0.85 ft relative to AGR Building 6.

You can see a transparent block under the stage in my model — this compensates for the sea level difference between AGR Building 6 and the stage.

The stage height has been discussed many times in this forum. Looking at the photo, there is roughly a 1:4 ratio between stage height and length.

Measuring the length in the CAD file gives 15.4 ft, which would correspond to a stage height of 46.2 inches. Standard stage heights are usually either 45 inches or 48 inches, so this value falls right between them. To give Gary the benefit of the doubt, I used 48 inches (4 ft) as the stage height.

Trump’s height has also been discussed at length in this forum. The height of Trump’s ear is estimated at 5.83 ft. I can provide the detailed reasoning and calculations behind this value if you’re interested.

So, if we add everything up:

1,336.117 ft + 4 ft + 5.83 ft = 1,345.947 ft.

Here is Gary’s estimate for comparison:

380.81 m = 1,249.38 ft → 1,349.38 ft.

This gives a difference of 3.43 ft, which is way off.

In conclusion, while I believe the drone data itself is very accurate, the estimated height of Trump’s ear is incorrect, and the fact that the bleachers were not taken into account makes Gary’s video inconclusive.

Before I go any further, would you like to comment on this analysis?

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I find it odd that Gary should have misjudged the height of the stage and Trump by 4 feet.

I agree with your estimate of about 10 feet.

Well, we should figure out what angles were not blocked.

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We can also see Dayve standing near the tree.

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Around frame 800 he raised his head again - if you really want to see the execution on Pearson’s bodycam.

Copenhaver’s arm bullet could not, and did not, hit the bleacher rail.
The bleacher rail had already been hit 1/4 second earlier:

Your video contains faked audio, and video.
The smokeball bounced and vanished southwest, in 3 frames.
It didn’t “rise up”!
Audio forwarding was even easier:
Watch smokeballs, blurred, rising up for 12 consecutive frames:

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Great job, @kincses-zsolt! This is incredible! This video evidence, together with @cmartenson’s audio analysis and our ‘Citizens Investigation’ bullet back-tracing project, totally vindicates the two-shooter theory!

Additional question: did the FBI check the blood found in the restroom against operator Graham’s blood?

That is a narrow range of angle the railings corner could be hit.
(Unless it was a planted explosive - typically used by movie directors.)

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My explanation is simpler.
I heard 5 suppressed shots as Trump said, “that’s a bit old, that chart…if you uhh wanna really see something that’s sad…”
and I think 1 of those 5 shots hit the rail were northeast at the muzzle(for me)
I guess no one else heard those 5 shots, or the other 20+ before the shooting began.
(or maybe they were some of Hercules2East’s “endless” shots(page 57 of his Senate interview)

even if they did test the bathroom blood, why would we expect an honest answer, if they’ve covered up everything else?

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As Cullen said, ‘why are we talking about Comperatore?’
Is that to sell the most books?
Instead, focus on the only victim shot twice.
He said his arm was hit 1st.
He said his abdomen was hit 1 second later.
Watch his eye behind the sunglass lens.
Also, his lips were moving(unfaked, unenhanced) and now I believe him when he claimed to say, “I think I’ve been shot!”
His gunshots at 6:11:33 and 6:11:35 can’t be denied.

[comments deleted-not worth the “breath”]

(This might be true)

All this time, i have been trying to work our who shot him, and it turns out, his death has been faked.

(This may not be true-per your previous statement)

welcome back