So It's Back To First Principles (Part 2)

(One of the topic I’m interested about. But in current models it is a dot product, and people do not want to look behind the axioms.)

Actually I got similar idea this morning. Maybe some accomplice snaked into investigators to distract, pretending they want to investigate.

Here is an experiment inside lecture room.

I wonder we can find Dimmick’s alleged Alpha here.

Dashcam audio was activated when he used the emergency lights to cross the double yellow lines, to turn to the dirt road.

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I try to develop a sound reflection calculator.


These “echo” lines may lower (going downward in z-direction). First reflected at 2nd floor [AGR3/AAR2], then reflected at 1st floor of other building [AGR2/AAR4]. But that echo cannot reach the spectators at west.

I’d like to know where and when the sheriff’s son lost. The kid was with his father when DJT took the stage.

Okay, but I meant the north bleachers around Mr. Comperatore.

They are sitting or standing?

(Sorry, meanwhile there is an unsolicited local accuracy issue I have to deal with. I’ll be back later. It is a crazy case.)

I confused Rep. Ronny Jackson with Rep. Mike Kelly. I don’t know exactly where Ronny Jackson was.

"Rep. Ronny Jackson, a Texas Republican, told Fox News that his nephew was injured during the shooting. Jackson said his nephew “was grazed in the neck, a bullet crossed his neck, cut his neck and he was bleeding.”

Jackson’s nephew was in “the friends and family pen, which is to the president’s right, down a little bit lower,” during the rally."

I thought you may have meant North bleachers, but…the line from Crooks’ body spot to DJT’s ear barely intersects the low 1st row at the North bleacher’s northwest(ground level) corner so, again, Crooks would have been a safer shooter for the civilians.

w/o TMZ logo

1 year later, Pa. congressman remembers deadly shooting at Butler Trump rally

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The two people on the left of the picture, both wearing white tops, the one on the left with red headgear and the one on the right with light-colored headgear, move their arms at exactly the same time as Copenhaver.

Were they also hit?

Enough time to build a bomb, but not enough time to buy a rifle scope?

I don’t believe the FBI anymore.

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My physics knowledge is limited, I just sense that if this group had been so tasked the particle would have been found much sooner.

The BEH field has been established to exist in places where carbs interact with high temperature lipids. A resulting phenomenon can cause an increase in mass. Analogous to the famous Slit experiment, the Donut Hole experiment requires at minimum, observation as interaction with the BEH

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I watched Slick Hick’s video with a big magnifying glass and I see Comperatore collapse when we hear the 5th shot.

I watched it at slow motion.



Then the camera quickly turned away.

Why are Copenhaver’s 2 shots in 1.5 seconds such a problem for you?

Major update from my side

We’ve fortunately identified the high-accuracy shot impacts visible in the banner image:

These impacts strongly suggest that shots 4 through 8 most likely struck Copenhaver twice, as he was standing precisely at that location.

Previously, I was uncertain about the origin of these shots. However, I believe I’ve now found the missing piece of the puzzle: it appears that Crooks was the shooter responsible for shots 4–8. This attribution significantly clarifies the shot distribution and simplifies the overall analysis.

Originally, I had ruled out Crooks, assuming he hadn’t fired any shots due to what appeared to be an obstruction from the left-side bleachers, which seemed to block a clear line of fire toward Copenhaver. Since discovering the high-resolution banner image, however, I hadn’t yet simulated this specific shot path.

Now, with the newly identified impact points located significantly higher than I had previously estimated, it appears that Crooks had a collision-free trajectory after all.



It’s important to note that these shots completely miss Trump.

But we must remember that by the time shots 4–8 occurred, Trump was already covered by a pile of Secret Service agents. As no one was injured in that group, it’s reasonable to assume Crooks deliberately aimed higher, over the pile, which would explain how Copenhaver was hit twice.

This interpretation aligns with Wilcox’s interview, where he also concludes that Crooks could not have fired into the pile.

:link: Wilcox interview – timestamped link

The only discrepancy with Wilcox’s account is his claim that ** Corey Comparatore** was shot instead of Copenhaver. However, it’s likely that Wilcox does not have access to the HD banner impact image. If he had seen the evidence we now have, he might well revise his opinion.


Conclusion:

With this new information, I am officially updating and simplifying my shot analysis: I now attribute the previously unidentified origine of shots 4–8 to Crooks.

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I tried to speed read between all your goofy pictures, but are you now claiming that Comperatore wasn’t shot?

I’m pretty sure just about everyone you see there is standing. Mr. Comperatore is shown standing, leaning against the railing in the minutes before and during the shots. Rep. Kelly, in the in front row with the white dress shirt and red hat just to the right of Trump, was standing. He had a chair at ground level. You can see the top of the heads of a few people in the very foreground that must have been sitting.

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Backed by forensic ballistics, high-definition images, and video footage (excluding any eyewitness testimony), all of which have been presented in this forum over the past year, I am now sharing the latest update on shot attribution.

I openly invite anyone to come forward with contradicting evidence. Should such evidence be presented, I will objectively revise the simulation and attribution as needed—just as we have consistently done throughout our discussions in this forum.

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Somebody help me remember where to find the videos where we can see James Copenhaver all the way to shot 8 or 9? (In some higher resolution - I know about the RSBN wide angle one). I can’t seem to find one right now.

Thanks.

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Which shot killed Corey?

But we should take into account the sound propagation delay and human reaction time.

  • Immediate Impact on the Body: A shot to the head, depending on the area struck, can cause immediate incapacitation. Even if the exact location of the injury isn’t known, significant trauma to the brain can result in rapid unconsciousness or even death.
  • Rapid Collapse: The body’s response to a shot can be very quick. In many cases, the person may appear to “collapse” or lose coordination within a split second as the brain’s control over the body is compromised. The person could still be conscious for a brief moment, but that doesn’t mean they are in control of their movements. It’s possible that the witness saw the collapse or loss of motor control after the 5th shot, even though he might have been hit by the first round.
  • Seconds After the Last Shot: It’s also possible that the collapse occurred just after the final shot was heard (the 5th one), as this could have been when the full extent of the injury, like brain hemorrhage or disruption of critical functions, led to the body failing completely.

nothing in lot of words

Conclusion:

It is absolutely possible that the person was shot by the first round but didn’t collapse immediately. If the shot didn’t cause immediate catastrophic damage (e.g., in the brainstem or a vital area), the body might have kept functioning briefly. The collapse you describe happening after the 5th shot might reflect a delayed loss of consciousness or motor control—perhaps due to cumulative trauma or additional shots. The fact that the person could still stand or maintain some form of posture before collapsing doesn’t rule out death from the first shot, it just means the body took a moment to fully shut down.

  • Collapse After Turning: The fact that he collapsed after turning around is significant. This might indicate that the injury (if it was from the first round) didn’t immediately incapacitate them. Perhaps, the victim was still conscious enough to react and turn, but the injury quickly took its toll as they lost motor function, leading to the collapse.
  • Consciousness and Muscle Control: The victim might have still been conscious after the first gunshot (especially if the head wound was to a non-vital area, like the frontal lobe or something less immediately lethal). The collapse could have been a delayed reaction to the injury, possibly due to brain damage or loss of motor control.
  • Delayed Collapse: In some cases, even with a lethal head injury, a person may still maintain some degree of motor function for a short time. The brain might not immediately lose its ability to send signals to the body. This could explain the victim’s slow turn and subsequent collapse. The brain could have been damaged to a degree that the body was unable to maintain posture, leading to the fall.

1. The Nature of the Supersonic Crack

  • 120 dB of Sound: A supersonic crack (from a high-velocity bullet) reaching 120 dB is extremely loud. For reference, 120 dB is roughly the sound level of a jet engine taking off at close range or standing near a live rock concert. It’s painful to the ears and can cause immediate hearing damage.
  • Immediate Ear Protection Reaction: If someone in front of the victim was able to quickly plug their ears in response, it suggests they were anticipating the loud noise or had an instinctive reaction due to being aware of the danger. In fact, ear protection or an attempt to shield from the sound could imply that the gunfire was in close proximity.

2. Why Would the Loud Crack Not Be Recorded?

There are a few technical possibilities here, especially concerning how smartphones record sound and the way audio is processed during recording.

  • Microphone Clipping / Overloading: If the gunshot’s crack was indeed 120 dB, the microphone on the smartphone may have been unable to handle such an intense sound. Most smartphones have microphones designed for normal conversations or ambient sounds, but they are not equipped to capture extremely loud noises without distortion. If the mic picks up a sound that loud, it could result in clipping, where the sound peaks beyond the microphone’s capacity to record it, essentially “cutting off” the sound or distorting it so severely that it isn’t audible.
    • This might explain why the sonic crack is missing from the footage if the recording device couldn’t capture it properly.
  • Automatic Audio Limiting or Compression: Smartphones often have automatic gain control (AGC) or dynamic range compression in place. These features adjust the volume levels of recordings automatically, trying to keep sounds within a certain range. If the phone detected the initial shot as too loud, it could have reduced the overall volume of the recording or actively suppressed it to prevent distortion.
  • Microphone Directionality: Most smartphone microphones are not designed to record directional sounds, especially supersonic cracks coming from a distance. If the shot was fired from a position that didn’t align directly with the phone’s microphone, it might not have picked up the full intensity of the sound. Additionally, phone mics often have a limited frequency response compared to professional audio equipment, so some higher-pitched sounds might not be captured as clearly.
  • Potential Post-Production Alteration: If the footage was altered afterward (either to remove the sound or replace it), it’s possible that the audio track was replaced or modified. Given the intense and possibly disturbing nature of the sound (a gunshot), it’s conceivable that someone might have edited the video to remove the noise or soften its impact. This could involve removing the crack altogether and replacing it with other sounds or even a background hum from the microphone itself, which would be a more neutral sound.

As indicated in my shot attribution graph, Shot 3 is assigned accordingly.

I’m not aware of any other video apart from the one you mentioned (the wide-angle RSBN footage). While there are many videos capturing shots 1–3, this one shows shots 4–8:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOyqEmZ6_B4

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I may have the video they ‘like’, but long-range resolution.
What gives them ‘hope’ for a debate is that Copenhaver does drop suddenly with the sound of Shot 4.
But, it’s obvious to 50 drunks in a bar that shot 3 already was against his spine:
Copenhaver suffered temporary paralysis, in a standing/crouching/doubled over position.
Copenhaver never went completely down. He was grabbing the rail, apparently trying to get up, after all 11 or 12(or35?) shots.

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