So It's Back To First Principles (Part 2)

On another platform, someone is putting still images of what is going on in the AGR car park, the watertower, and the trees heading towards Meridian Road. I have no idea where he is getting these images from it is a different version of events to what the Butler Township fake bodycam footage is telling us. From memory, i am only aware of 1 video showing those trees in question and belived it was the Tyler Collins video.

I have not been following Dayve on X for a while. Back in July 2024, i remember on X, he wrote a tweet that he witnessed something else that happened around the AGR building. To this day, he will not say what it was. I think he witnessed all the watertower and the AGR car park shots around 18:07pm. This is why the Butler County police bodycam footage has been faked to cover it up.

What other platform, and which ‘someone’?







First I thought it was a plastic bottle of mineral water, thrown by Kuss or the PSP trooper. But when I checked several bodycams, neither of them. And later why should it disappear? It really looks like a balloon.

Meanwhile - however…


I asked chatgpt to calculate the speed of the bird.


First we estimated “Standard wall construction uses 3 ft wide corrugated metal panels.” It gives 277 mph
Then we corrected that estimation by the height of Collins.

That gives 194 mph

This is still quite fast, but it’s more reasonable than the original estimate of 277 mph. It still seems like an unusually high speed for a bird, though, which could further suggest it might be a drone.

It’s more likely to be something that can appear and disappear quickly—which, in this case, would be a drone.

Twitter, Brian Reynalds. I have been following him for a long time. What i like about his posts the most he he sends his images to everyone on Twitter in positions of power.

In image 1, i have zoomed right in and unfortunately i cannot find anyone there behind the panel

However, in image 2, when i zoom in, there is someone there. All i can see is a face wearing sunglsses, no rifle.

Thanks.
He’s the X poster who claimed to be “speaking for Dayve” because Dayve “had PTSD” and Dayve was “on meds.”
I think he’s the Chicago cop who threatened Dayve’s health and safety, and I wouldn’t trust Brian Reynolds as far as I could throw him!

I looked into it, and (reluctantly) decided that if his head is too small, it’s only by a little bit. Not enough to say “this is faked!”

I think the guy on the roof in Dayve’s video looks like a balding guy with short hair and a thick dark mustache, though, not someone with longish hair that parts it more or less down the middle:

Apparently around 2015 most cell phones added heat reflectors to the lens to block infrared radiation. I did the remote control test with my three most recent phones - an Iphone XR, Samsung Galaxy A14, and an LG V20. None picked up anything.

I’ll have to see if I can get my old Pantech Flex (circa 2012) up and going. The battery for that thing would hold a charge for only about as long as it takes to power on, though…

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Thanks for the link. He certainly appears to have been TRYING to take video soon after shots started. I think he didn’t get the “record” button pushed, though. On first the tik-tok video he has after the shots (when Trump is already starting to stand up) he says he thought he was recording, but didn’t get the record button pushed. He did get an “interesting” shot about 20 seconds after Trump stood up - Tim Burke and his buddy, hiding from the AGR building. A couple of commenters who had NO IDEA who he was thought the guy looked pissed that Trump lived.

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Your comment is completely justified. When shooting from a lower point beyond the vents, the fence indeed becomes a problem.

Now that we have video evidence showing the exact origin of shot 1, we can easily trace the bullet’s path forward.

shot-1-near-window-2

With three confirmed points in the trajectory—the origin of the shot next to window 2 (as seen on the video), Trump’s ear, and the top corner of the bleacher railing—the line is clearly defined, leaving no more room for inaccuracies. We can now draw this line in the CAD system to check for inconsistencies.

Looking back at our earlier simulation of the back-traced bullet, the trajectory pointed toward Vent 2.

As we discussed before, this was only an estimation based on the back trace. With the shot origin now verified, we can better understand where the small inaccuracies came from. When back-tracing, our trajectory appeared too high compared to the relative height of Vent 2 and the impact point shown in the video.

Using the CAD to determine the sea level of the bleachers in respect of the other values gives us the following sea level: 1335.558 ft

Since we use the ARG 6 sea level as the zero reference, the difference in sea level between the ARG 6 building and the bleachers is therefore 1335.558 – 1335.27 = 0.288 ft . Adding this difference to the height of the bleacher corner (11.093 ft) gives the impact height of Shot 1: 11.381 ft.

Next, we notice a slight horizontal offset between Vent 2 and the origin of shot 1 (near window 2). This is most likely caused by discrepancies between Google Maps’ overhead imagery and the Reuters drone footage. Google Maps recently updated its top view of the Butler Farm, now showing the new barn at the rally site. The roof of the barns in this newer image are much better aligned, with less perspective distortion. Using this updated photo to rematch with the Reuters top view provides a more accurate alignment:

This new reference image can be used by anyone to trace 2D trajectories. It appears to be the most accurate alignment available to date.

With this correction, the trajectory line is perfect, with all three points aligning exactly.







For those who want to verify in their own CAD system, here are the heights of the three points:

  • Origin of Shot 1: 7 ft (1342.27 ft at sea level)
  • Trump’s ear: 10.68 ft (1345.95 ft at sea level, with 48-inch podium)
  • Bleacher railing impact: 11.381 ft (1346.65 ft at sea level)



As you can see, this clearly shows a trajectory of a rising (ascending) bullet, making it impossible for Crooks to have achieved this trajectory since his rifle was positioned higher than Trump’s ear.

Now, regarding potential collisions: when checking against the fences, Fence 1 does appear to present a possible obstruction (whereas Fence 2 does not), which supports your concern.


However, since September 2024 we have suspected that shots originated from this exact position. In reviewing the line of fire, we found notches deliberately cut out of Fence 1.

These notches align precisely with the shot trajectory. It is highly unlikely this was a coincidence.

To answer your question directly: yes, the fence would have blocked the trajectory, but it appears the fence was deliberately modified—by cutting out a substantial notch—so the shot could pass through unobstructed.

This has been a lot of information. I’ll pause here to invite questions, comments, and counter-evidence.

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while Nurse Ratched feeds you with a spoon.

And you forgot to ‘roger’ ToughOldBird again…you haven’t ‘rogered’ him for months.

Also, SonjaX6’s favorite map indicates a shot from the “2nd window” to DJT’s ear would sail clearly West of the corner.
Unless you want to claim a wind aided bullet, you should try Window 3 next.

Similar happened to some people around me, not only once.

Probably I used my older phone to record that.

Yesterday I tried to identify the origin of the unknown flying balloon - by dashcam and bodycam of officer Kuss. I also tried to calculate the velocity of another unknown flying object, allegedly a bird. Maybe chatgpt screwed it up. Now the manual estimation: assuming rib distance 20 cm. The object had 14 ribs distance between two frames. Applox 2.8 m, wich gives 292 km/h (181 mph).

The speed of birds varies greatly by species and flight type. Generally, birds fly at speeds between 20 and 30 mph (32-48 km/h) for cruising. However, some birds can achieve much higher speeds, particularly during chases or dives. For example, Peregrine Falcons can reach speeds of up to 200 mph (322 km/h) during a stoop.

Well, it is obviously not a nosedive.

Falcons come in various sizes, but generally, they are considered medium-sized birds of prey. The Peregrine Falcon, a common example, is about the size of a crow. Male Peregrines are slightly smaller than crows, with a length of 38-46 cm and a wingspan up to 99 cm, while females are larger, reaching 46-55 cm in length and a wingspan of up to 112 cm, according to The Center for Conservation Biology. The largest falcon is the Gyrfalcon, reaching up to 65 cm in length. The smallest is the Pygmy Falcon, measuring just 20 cm.

By the way, I try to find an episode of Derrick series. Where someone told the detectives about the suspect: he believes that everyone is stupid - including himself. But since he is aware that he is stupid too, it makes advanteges for him against the others.

15 feet is exactly 180 inches and 180 / 4 = 45 not 40!

Yes, nice catch!

I see you are checking closely — good!

It was a careless mistake on my part.

The 45-inch stage height is standard, and that is correct.

The 3-inch difference was not sufficient to reach the origine position of shot 1 as shown in the video, so the only remaining variable to adjust is the bleacher floor level, since it is not exactly determined where the wheels are set:

Looking at the measured value, they are set on the same height as the AGR 6 building, so we can treat that as zero. Now that we can trace the bullet forward, the situation becomes much clearer.

I have updated my post accordingly with the corrected values.

The main question you raised remains unchanged: there is no collision with fence 1, but only because of the notches.

You’re joking, I hope. Can’t you see that the fence is completely ruined, with multiple holes and tears?
You’d have to be completely crazy to drill two tiny, very precisely placed holes (how, I don’t know!) and hope the bullets will go through!

45 inches are a standard value and 40 inches also and finally all the values are standard! You are really laughable!

Please don’t trivialize mental illness.
roger-knight is obviously disturbed, unstable, and could react unpredictably.

Do you have any constructive counter-evidence to present, or should we consider this question resolved and move on?

Please note that this is a serious matter. Two witnesses have already investigated the notches at the Butler grounds, supported by both photographic and video evidence.

You still have an opportunity to provide your counter-evidence. If not, we will proceed to the next topic.

There seems to be some misunderstanding on your side. The mention of 40 inches was simply a careless mistake on my part, as I already noted in my previous post. The value I have consistently defended is a podium height of 45 inches (3.75 feet).

For example, please refer to this post:

In any case, the updated values in my post, including all the heights, are now up to date.