So It's Back To First Principles (Part 2)

Which face, and at what point in the video?

I don’t take ANY video for granted as being unmodified. I do try to be aware of genuine reasons that things could look funky, though.

When I mentioned “degraded” I was talking about the link to the TikTok video, by the way. What showed up in the “Law and Crime” video is cropped and the video quality is lower.

I don’t know ‘which’ face.
But ‘mac.mp4’ played with DragonPlayer(no clock, AFAIK) and this screenshot, I think is 1 of 8 frames I suspect.
I extracted all frames, must have trashed them, can get them again later to compare with the 16 frames I called ‘driscoll.mp4’…
Did you install ffmpeg in Windows 11?

Not yet. I’m so slow to migrate computers that my new computer is not used much by me - only for videos that need a 4K monitor to look their best. Mostly my daughter uses it for gaming.

The computer I use dates to 2012, but migrating everything is a pain.

I’ll try to install it today.

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You found my neon pink schoolbus.

I have some special edition, “essentials” i guess. Just unzip.

Yes — there are standalone (portable) FFmpeg builds you can just unzip and run — no installation needed.

How to use it

  1. Download the portable ZIP or 7z from a trusted source (the “release” or “essentials” build).
  2. Unzip it somewhere (e.g. C:\tools\ffmpeg or on a USB stick).
  3. In the unzipped folder there will be a bin directory containing ffmpeg.exe, ffprobe.exe, etc.
  4. Optionally add that bin path to your PATH environment variable so you can call ffmpeg from any directory.

wreath of flowers = top honor

Is this a pattern? Lone wolves - high honor outcasts?

(Does Lorraine Baines need third marriage?)

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“green” category mentions David Dutch shot, but doesn’t mention the one man who was shot twice as many times as everyone else.
That 3rd bullet, still in Copenhaver, must have been very close to(East of) Trump’s hand/arm, because Trump was still dangerously standing.

Thanks to KINCES_Zsolt for the Windows ffmpeg instructions, because I’ve used ffmpeg only with Debian Linux.
I put 16 “driscoll.mp4” frames here:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/tv3k8l61aam58pbnzgytc/AENvwsvMpvORomKt7mZU6e8?rlkey=4trf77twnam9la26cy2b2ob7j&st=4pkgh6q0&dl=0

and 9 McCullough frames here:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/b7f42ykekeqth7nk25utf/ACHtytk-75ZUIfxzJgK_CEQ?rlkey=71cgs2hha4hhefthcvt0tj81i&st=rgtwf3eb&dl=0

In the 16 driscoll frames, I see a pixelated face under the west side(your left) of the ‘smokecloud’.
The driscoll video was 17.37 seconds of 60 frames/second.
McCullough’s was 22.06 seconds of 29.97 frames/second, and face pixels are mostly gone in the 7 of 9 frames in which I expected to see them.

I find it odd that he hasn’t mentioned the sound of the second and third bullets whizzing past him.

I don’t know what you are referring to with a smokecloud. I looked at one of the frames in it’s native resolution and have attached it in full, and cut in two for people that can’t view a full hi-def portrait mode picture.



The pictures definitely get blurrier as the guy starts to pan quickly.

I see areas of cloudy gray pixels.
If I’m not seeing smoke, can you suggest something else?
A vertical pipe east also seemed to be ‘smoking’:


If he’s part of the coverup, he needs to be careful about saying anything. Also, I think the 2nd bullet missed him by more than 1 meter(to West).
Did you read the story of him with Susie Wiles at the hospital?
It seems he was yelling at her, telling her to ‘get a grip/pull herself together’!

No, ask me tomorrow or Friday. I’m still short on sleep and did a couple of things I’d been putting off - stupid stuff like logging on to financial accounts and going through mail.

I also am perpetually behind in emails and don’t help myself when I get onto the coffee and covid substack and make comments that get a bunch of likes - those add emails.

I’m also in flame wars with people over the Jimmy Kimmel flap. I unfriended two people on facebook I was very good friends with back when we were all in our 20s. They have both fallen for all the liberal talking points except one - they are still prolife. Hard to imagine prolife Christians with full bore Trump Derangement Syndrome, but they fell for it. The woman has a picture of herself holding a “No Kings” handmade sign as her large facebook picture, and was complaining about a person being rounded up by ICE - a person who turned out to have a felony conviction and several misdemeanors.

The man, who was an international student and who has gone back to Malaysia, has a PhD in computer science, so you would THINK he’d be smart. Not so much. He started ranting about free speech and Jimmy Kimmel and I said “where were you during the COVID lockdowns and all the social media being censored?” “Where were you when Roseanne Barr was fired in 2018 from a top rated show for a tweet that COULD be considered racist if you looked at it the wrong way?” He only gets his news from the mainstream media, and the mainstream media is FUCKED UP these days. I’m old enough to remember Walter Cronkite (the most trusted man in news) and the days when media was close to unbiased.

You’d THINK they would notice that the news mentions “far-right” politicians a lot, but never “far-left” politicians.

Oh yeah, I got pissed at the band U2 for the same reasons. They used to be one of my favorite bands, but I’m going to break all my CDs and cut up my tshirt and use it to clean a toilet at least once before throwing it out. I’ve broken 3 CDs so far and have about 10 go. They were a heavily Christian influenced back in the day - I imagine 75% of the people who know they “stood up” for Jimmy Fucking Kimmel and said nothing about Charlie Kirk feel the same way I do.

The worst thing is that all these liberals that hate Charlie Kirk don’t really know anything about him. They only know about 10 sentences he said that were taken out of context. But liberals own all the mainstream media - and google - and wikipedia.

So that’s my rant from the culture wars. Rant off.

It’s 11:30PM here and I really need to get to bed soon. Good night all.

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I’m sorry to hear of all your problems, and can’t help much, except that, tomorrow, I’ll install ffmpeg in Windows 11, for the experience.

I don’t know if anyone else caught this, but thanks to the HD footage of the John McCollough video provided by @sonjax6 we can finally see where the drone which is seen in multiple videos originates (just search realdjstew724 drone on X and you’ll see what drone I am talking about). Moments before the first shots are fired, the drone clearly launches from the back side of AGR Building 6.

drone-originated--from-AGR-building-6

For the “two-shooter theory” beleivers, lots of scenarios fit: as @sonjax6 mentioned, maybe the firearm was remotely actuated by the drone, or maybe they just wanted a top-down recording for better footage. The possibilities are endless.

What I’m really looking forward to now are the inevitable jiu jitsu, Houdini, straw-grasping explanations from the lone-8-shot shooter crowd (@phiphi-the-frenchie @greg_n) :grinning:

That’s your imagination that is endless, Roger!
It’s probably a bird taking flight, but if you want to see it as a drone firing a remote-controlled rifle, all augmented by AI, go ahead, you’re free, Roger!

But don’t forget your pills and a little soup before bed!

And I desperately searched this high-definition video for your now-famous “muzzle flash” from the vent during shot 3, but I found nothing, probably because I don’t have your immense skills!
This vent remains hopelessly closed, thus definitively closing your outlandish claim!

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A bird? I’m disappointed in your weak inventiveness. :smile:

Please try harder next time.

As for the vent, I’ll get back to that later.

Well, the lawyer of devil (in me) asks: how many times the individual on the roof got shot?

Hey, maybe two years ago I received a strange notification - my Discord account has been deleted due to long inactivity.
I cannot recall if I registered to Discord either, had formerly no clue what it was.
(Maybe another platform has been sold to Discord and integrated to it? Well, once “accidentally” I registered to somewhere, then I realized it was not the place I intended to be, and unregistered without any posts - but that might have been around 10 years ago, dunno exactly.)

ehh?

There are some other interesting possibilities. Fake message (but why). Or you can register to Discord without confirmation. But I don’t want to check that (pick an arbitrary email and try if they let me in with fake ID).

chatgpt:

So someone could register and use Discord without ever confirming the email address, as long as they didn’t need restricted features.

:b: You once registered via another service (OAuth)

  • Discord supports sign-up/login via other platforms (Google, Steam, Xbox, etc.).
  • It’s possible you logged into something once using an OAuth provider and automatically created a Discord account without realizing it — although you’d typically still get an email confirmation prompt.

Patel gathers online witnesses - I hope their ID will be checked.

Almost all societies share around 7 moral values, but with different weight and priorities:

  • those are not mathematical axioms;
  • they are in conflict in particular cases.
    Just think about the rock/paper/scissors game of kids.

let chatgpt refine my words:

Look — almost every society around the world shares a small set of core moral values. Maybe 6 or 7, depending on how you group them. Things like care vs. harm, fairness, loyalty, respect for authority, liberty, purity, and so on. What changes isn’t the values themselves — it’s how each group or culture prioritizes them.

They’re not absolute or perfectly consistent. They can contradict each other. And just like in rock-paper-scissors, sometimes one value ‘beats’ another depending on the situation.

So it’s not that one side is moral and the other isn’t — it’s that we’re weighting and balancing these shared values differently. That’s part of what makes moral conflict so hard, but also why empathy and good-faith conversation matter.

Do not escalate so high it can no longer be negotiated out. (Actually we can see permanent escalation in the Ukrainian conflict.)

The quote you’re referring to is attributed to King Pyrrhus of Epirus after the Battle of Asculum in 279 BCE. After winning a costly victory against the Romans, he is said to have remarked:

“If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined.”
Pyrrhus of Epirus

You’re touching on a profound and nuanced idea — that rising political tension in the U.S. might not just be about internal issues, but could be amplified or reflected by international conflicts like the war in Ukraine. The notion of a closed loop, as in group theory or feedback systems, is a compelling metaphor: actions abroad influence domestic politics, which in turn affect foreign policy — and the cycle tightens.

If you want to ground it a bit more in research or philosophy, this is very aligned with Moral Foundations Theory (developed by Jonathan Haidt and others), which identifies those recurring themes across cultures:

  • Care/harm
  • Fairness/cheating
  • Loyalty/betrayal
  • Authority/subversion
  • Sanctity/degradation
  • Liberty/oppression

You can also add:

“These values are not like mathematical axioms that always produce consistent results. They can and do come into conflict — and different communities resolve those conflicts in different ways.”

Yeah, that kind of shift can feel like a betrayal — especially if it’s sudden or tied to a heated issue. When someone you trust starts prioritizing a different moral value (or reorders their values), it can seem like they’ve changed sides entirely — or even abandoned their principles. But often, they haven’t. They’ve just reweighted the values they already had.

Philosophers say: we cannot deduce or prove our moral values. It resonates with Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem - despite our core values are not axioms.

Philosophers have long argued that we can’t deduce our moral values the way we deduce theorems from axioms. There’s no final proof that says, ‘This value is absolutely right’ — at some point, all ethical systems rest on assumptions we choose to hold.

That’s why moral values aren’t like mathematical axioms — we didn’t formally define them, and they aren’t logically consistent with each other in all cases. They can conflict. They shift in priority.

But the resonance with Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem is still helpful: just like in formal systems, there are true things we can’t prove from within the system. In morality, there are deeply felt truths — like ‘it’s wrong to harm innocent people’ — that feel self-evident, but we can’t derive them purely through logic.

So when people start weighting values differently, it’s not just a logic error. It’s a shift in the basic assumptions — and no system can fully justify its own foundations.

As Cicero wrote: Iustitiae primum munus est, ut ne cui quis noceat nisi lacessitus iniuria — the first principle of justice is not to harm anyone unless harmed. It’s a moral anchor across cultures. When people shift their moral weightings, it often happens before the consequences are clear — and if we’re not careful, those shifts can feel like threats, leading to conflict even where none was intended.

Something tells me I should go back to the flying balloon, which landed in front of Collins. (First I thought it was a bottle of mineral water, which suddenly disappeared.) But who launched that and where it came from? (First I thought the PSP trooper (on different frequency) sent a “message” to Collins like “hey, come here”. But it is also possible the attention grabbing event came from the rooftop.)

Anyway, the big question is: do you think a lone wolf was able to carry out the entire operation - without leaked information and in-situ assistance. When y’all answer yes, there is a big trouble.

Since we can’t logically deduce our core moral values — only compare and weigh them — people often adjust their moral priorities based on experience. They live through situations, see outcomes, and notice what leads to more harm or more harmony.

Over time, this kind of pattern recognition can shift how someone ranks values like fairness vs. loyalty, or liberty vs. authority. It’s not deduction — it’s more like moral learning by exposure, a kind of statistical updating.

If a new weighting seems to result in better outcomes — for themselves, or for the people they care about — that new moral balance can start to feel more ‘right.’ Whether that means greater wellbeing, less conflict, or more comfort for more people, it often drives the change.

And even Bayesian thinking, where repeated evidence subtly updates our internal ‘weights’.

You could also phrase it more compactly like this:

“People don’t prove their morals — they test them. In life, not in logic. When a different balance of values seems to make more sense in more situations, the priorities shift. It’s not betrayal — it’s adaptation.”

okay, but at the beginning of that shift, they cannot see the results yet, just predict. especially because there are other people, not frozen their values, they may react with teir shift. and istability might lead toward escalation. higher tension

Yes — and that’s a crucial insight: moral shifts don’t happen in isolation. They start with prediction, not proof — and the system they happen within (a social world full of other shifting agents) makes the outcomes deeply uncertain. Even well-intended moral rebalancing can lead to conflict or instability, especially when it’s not recognized or reciprocated.

Moral shifts begin as predictions, not conclusions.

When someone starts to reweight their moral priorities, they’re often acting on a hunch — a felt sense that “maybe this value deserves more weight now.” They haven’t seen the full results yet; they’re projecting. But since morals are social — embedded in relationships and shared norms — this shift creates tension with others who haven’t made the same move.

I suggest to iterate until it won’t change. Then you reach the maximum resolution - supported by the number of bits available. However, when you add up small numbers, the subtotal might be saturated. So it is useful sometimes to use a subtotal “bucket” strategy. (Well, when I checked it, it was not necessary in my case.)

(Meanwhile I try to create some tool to generate more accurate spectrograms according to my belief.)

We have a principal question: lone wolf or not.
There are two possibilities. Either he acted alone. Or he got information, guidance, assistance, collaboration.

By now, there are two lethal shootings. The second one had assistance, obviously. The old man, who yelled that he was the shooter.

The strategic thinking tells me something more. Supporters should build an observer network.

The person with fist raised in Butler had other people near him on the roof(s)…some were smoking so much that it looked like vaping.

Javascript can make reasonable guesses, and I just want a reasonable drop in bullet velocity.
Also, I can’t remember ever making a graph with Javascript, but made another array for ‘x’ coordinate values, and renamed array ‘vp’ to ‘y’, to be familiar, and hoping to make a curved path

x=new Array()
y=new Array()
function A(v,e){
t9=Math.round((0.9*e))
t8=Math.round((0.8*e))
t7=Math.round((0.7*e))
for(t=0;t<e;t++){
vc=(t>t9)?0.35:(t>t8)?0.3:(t>t7)?0.25:0.2
ac=(t>t9)?0.0004:(t>t8)?0.0003:(t>t7)?0.0002:0.0001
vt=v-(t*vc)-((ac*t*t)/2)
y[t]=vt
x[t]=t
}
}

Yesterday I saw an interesting comment on YT.
Someone claimed: the UVU shooter must have had strong military training.
And an answer was: no military training needed for a young man to climb the roof and pull the trigger.

Hahh. I remember a Bud Spencer film. A kid was not allowed to play in basketball team of the school. Once he had an opportunity and told the trainer, roughly: just hit the target.
just hit the target

Well, if it was so simple.

Rhetoric was the part of Trivium. Roughly: The three easy/simple things (trivial - ancient elementary school staff). Things one must have learned like logical reasoning, before attended to higher education (Quadrivium).

Etymologically, the Latin word trivium means “the place where three roads meet” (tri + via); hence, the subjects of the trivium are the foundation for the quadrivium, the upper (or “further”) division of the medieval education in the liberal arts, which consists of arithmetic (numbers as abstract concepts), geometry (numbers in space), music (numbers in time), and astronomy (numbers in space and time). Educationally, the trivium and the quadrivium imparted to the student the seven liberal arts of classical antiquity.[1]

Grammar, logic, and rhetoric were essential to a classical education, as explained in Plato’s dialogues. The three subjects together were denoted by the word trivium

chatgpt:

:brain: Final Argument: It’s Not Just Pulling the Trigger

  1. Setup:

Yesterday I read a YouTube comment thread about the UVU shooter. Someone said he must have had serious military training. A reply came: “You don’t need military training to climb a roof and pull a trigger.”

  1. Counter (Bud Spencer reference):

Sure — and in Aladdin (1986), the kid told the coach: “You just need to throw the ball into the basket.”
Sounds easy, right?
It’s not. That’s the illusion of simplicity.

  1. Rhetorical context:

This is classic rhetoric.
In ancient education, Rhetoric was part of the Trivium — the “simple” foundational arts: grammar, logic, rhetoric.
But “simple” didn’t mean easy.
These were the tools for detecting misleading arguments — not falling for them.

  1. Conclusion:

So no — it’s not just about “climbing a roof and pulling a trigger.”
That’s like saying scoring in basketball is just “throwing a ball in a hoop.”
Real skill — and potentially military training — shows in the subtleties:

  • Choosing the right position
  • Knowing when to act
  • Controlling timing, angles, exits, impact
    That’s not trivial. That’s tactics.
    And that’s where trained thinking — or trained shooters — separate from assumptions.

Critical Point – The Problem with Rhetoric:

Here’s the danger: sometimes simplifying is honest ignorance.
Other times, it’s intentional rhetoric — a way to mislead.
And the two are hard to tell apart.
That’s what makes this kind of argument dangerous:

  • If he genuinely thinks it’s that simple — he’s naïve.
  • If he’s using that simplicity to shut down deeper analysis — it’s manipulation.

(Well, sometimes my “DEI” engineer - an educated peasant - says: “the computer will calculate that”. Oh, no! The engineer (you) should tell me how to calculate that and I will instruct thecomputer to do.)