So It's Back To First Principles (Part 2)

[roger-knight]

In this golden nugget HD John McCollough video, we notice something very important: a drone clearly departs from the AGR 6 building before the first shots are fired:

The same drone is captured in Steward’s video, confirming its presence:

Moments later, dynamic activity is recorded near Window 2, exactly as Shot 1 is fired:

Just after that, we see a flash coming from Vent 1 at the exact same time that Shot 3 is fired:

Then, 1 minute 18 seconds later, the drone returns to its original position, behind the AGR 6 building.

Possible hypothesis:

Situation:

A drone takes off from behind the building and moves away, going out of sight.

A short time later, dynamic activity and a bright flash emerge from a vent, exactly as the shots are fired, comming from the same building the drone departed from.

About 1 minute 18 seconds later, the drone returns to the same building. It either lands or disappears behind the roofline, suggesting it has gone back to its starting point.

A possible hypothesis is the use of a drone-operated remote weapon system (RWS). What would be the advantage using such a system:

• The weapon can be placed inside, aimed through the vent.
• It is controlled remotely, so the operator can stay hidden and safe (lower room AGR 6 building where a lot of activity was recorded).
• Only a small part of the barrel and the flash of the shot would be visible to the outside.
• The drone may have been used to assist the RWS by scouting the area before the shot and then returning afterward.
• This combination allows firing from a concealed position without exposing a person.

This pattern matches how a remote weapon with drone support could be used: the drone scouts, the hidden weapon fires, and then the drone comes back.

[sonjax6]

@kincses-zsolt

Real skill — and potentially military training — shows in the subtleties:

• Choosing the right position
• Knowing when to act
• Controlling timing, angles, exits, impact
  That’s not trivial. That’s tactics.
  And that’s where trained thinking — or trained shooters — separate from assumptions.

True enough. I don’t think it’s that difficult to look at a satellite view of the campus and see that that particular view would have a good line of sight to Mr. Kirk. And it doesn’t take a lot of time at a rifle range to hit a target at 150 yards. He most likely was aiming at Mr. Kirk’s torso or head and was short-term lucky in that his shot erred but still was deadly.

I have four questions:

I doubt the location of where Mr. Kirk would be was public. Robinson is not known to have scouted out the location in advance in person, and he lived 300 miles from the campus.

There’s the question of how he got roof access. That has not been addressed yet.

Why he doesn’t have a rifle in the surveillance photos of him on the stairs?

How does a 30.06 round not make an exit wound? Andrew Kolvet (if I remember right) made a ridiculous argument that it was a miracle. Alex Jones (of all people) tried to fix the argument a bit by saying, the bullet was at a downward angle (maybe 6%) and the bullet fragmented on hitting his cervical vertabrae, ricocheted and a lot of it ended up “blowing out” his heart. He also said they initially simplified the story because the truth was disconcerting. I’m not saying it’s bullshit, but I’m skeptical. Notice - like Butler - nobody has said whether the bullets were FMJ, softpoint or hollowpoint.

https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1969905525249749237

[phiphi-the-frenchie]

@roger-knight

Moments later, dynamic activity is recorded near Window 2, exactly as Shot 1 is fired:

Just after that, we see a flash coming from Vent 1 at the exact same time that Shot 3 is fired:

But this “dynamic activity” near window 2 and the “flash” coming from vent 1 are absolutely invisible in the “golden nugget HD John McCollough video”!
How is this possible, dear Roger?

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@sonjax6

I have four questions:

I’ll answer all 4 of your questions, if you answer just 1 of mine:
“What’s that stuff that looks like smoke, or fog, on the center AGR roofs 441 days ago?”

[sonjax6]

@flamecensor

I’ll answer all 4 of your questions, if you answer just 1 of mine:
“What’s that stuff that looks like smoke, or fog, on the center AGR roofs 441 days ago?”

I wasn’t expecting answers from anyone here on the Charlie Kirk questions, although you are welcome to weigh in on them.

For your question, I mostly see kind of blurry areas, not unexpected when a cell phone camera is panning quickly. I will grant you that there appears to be an area that’s shaped like the very top part of a very large circle just above the roof of AGR 6, between the two large center pipes, that almost looks like it could have had a blurring effect put on it. The problem in my mind is that no blurring tool makes a shape that looks like the very top of a very large circle. Other than that I see nothing weird at all in the area you mentioned.

I’m more curious as to why the tree looks like it has “Spanish Moss” when it most certainly does not have it. Spanish Moss pretty much only grows on trees in south in the US.

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@sonjax6

“Spanish Moss”

‘Spanish Moss’ probably was added to mccullough.mp4, by those who erased the face under the center fog.
That face can be seen in 16 frames of ‘driscoll.mp4’.
The fog is more obvious above the 2 far west vertical vents, and at least one pixelated face is under that fog, just east of the TV edge.
‘fast camera panning’ may have reduced video views of the fog, obvious to me in extracted frames.
Yesterday I ‘extracted’ the
ffmpeg-master-latest-win64-gpl-shared.zip from BtbN on ffmpeg’s download page, finding the BtbN easier to see versions that guyan.dev, and then edited the administrator path, I think with
setx PATH “%PATH%;C:\ffmpeg/bin”
My answers:

1. I read Robinson was there at 8 am, so he knew where to aim
2. he’s a fit guy…easy to find a way to rooftop
3. surveillance cameras missed him
4. he made special low imact loads, to prevent an exit wound and, as you said, no one’s specified the bullet type.

Has he entered a plea?
Maybe it would be easier to wait for Tyler Robinson to answer these questions.

[roger-knight]

@phiphi-the-frenchie

But this “dynamic activity” near window 2 and the “flash” coming from vent 1 are absolutely invisible in the “golden nugget HD John McCollough video”!

Shot 1 is not visible in the HD video, so there’s no reason to look for it.

However, having to identify just a small part of the barrel sticking out of a wall makes searching the video much more difficult. Still, if we look closely, we can find signs that support this hypothesis.

We can even see evidence of this in Collins’ video as well.

[sonjax6]

I was looking at John Malis’ video that supposedly has “Crooks” sitting up on the roof in between shots 9 and 10 the other day.

I put together a few photos that compare the last frame where he can be seen fairly clearly with that same spot one second before he’s shot, with a picture of him dead on the roof:

Obviously, if Crooks were sitting up so high, he should have been easily visible to both members of the Hercules 1 team and to Aaron Zaliponi. It should be noted that the interview of Jon Malis with NewsNation was aired on July 31. Jon Malis “coincidentally” had dashcam footage of Crooks walking by the AGR sign “within an hour” of the shooting. They only showed Crooks when he was far enough away that there weren’t any features visible, though.

This was before the testimony of the Hercules 1 snipers was released or the interview with Aaron Zaliponi.

I have to admit, I was staring at these photos way too much before I took a good look at the one picture that NewsNation provided of “Crooks” on the roof. It’s not surprising it would be a lot higher quality, since NewsNation got the video directly. It didn’t have to go through a youtube upload where “Crooks” was only 14 pixels high.

The picture that NewsNation used was blown up 5X versus what showed up on youtube. Here is the shot of “Crooks” they showed side by side with the same frame from the Malis/Grimley youtube video, blown up 5x. I made sure to use the native resolution of 2288 by 1080 for that frame.

So, “Crooks” here looks like a chubby balding guy, doesn’t he? There’s a LARGE dark stripe (two pixels wide in the original) running down the left side (from the viewer’s POV), while there is none on the right side. (Sharpening isn’t going to add a stripe like that).

The guy appears to have his body facing straight north along the roof ribs, while he’s only looking west, and has his head turned ridiculously far to the left. You can’t see any sign of his right arm, except for maybe his hand. His left arm looks bent quite a ways at the elbow, but the roof is several inches below where his elbow would be - he cannot be resting on it. There’s no sign of a rifle.

I think Malis added this in so that a TV station would pick up his video. Ditto with the half-bald “Crooks” that was crawling on the roof, and the “Crooks” with the lustrous hair that was holding a rifle with his glasses down on his nose like a middle aged person trying to read using their distance glasses.

I’m not convinced of the genuineness of the images of “Crooks” in Stewarts’ and McCollough’s video’s either, but note that if they are genuine, they show him without a rifle - and McCollough has him in the frame during shot 2.

[phiphi-the-frenchie]

You said: “Just after that, we see a flash coming from Vent 1”

Where is this flash in McCullough’s video?

[kincses-zsolt]

@sonjax6

I wasn’t expecting answers from anyone here on the Charlie Kirk questions

There is another topic for Kirk.

@cmartenson

Accordingly, I have fired up another Citizens’ Investigation to see what we can uncover in our pursuit of truth.

By the way, I would ask a question @cmartenson
Autopsy of TMC says his cerebellum was hit. Also there is a footage, between 9th and 10th shot he raised his torso and turned toward the western crowd.
I think the 9th shot was lethal. But he was able to raise his head for a couple of seconds, then he collapsed due to heavy bleeding. Since he was faced to west, the entrance wound of the 10th shot should have been at posterior left neck. I think indeed the 10th shot destructed his rifle stock.

@sonjax6

@roger-knight

We can even see evidence of this in Collins’ video as well.

@roger-knight

A short time later, dynamic activity and a bright flash emerge from a vent

According to Greg’s testimony, he was walking from room to another room, from window to another window. (Also a witness told Vensel: someone had been looking out of the window.) And he had eye contacts with people looking at the building. It would be great to know the rooms Greg visited. But most probably he cannot recall which window(s) he was looking out of.

[sonjax6]

@kincses-zsolt

I think the 9th shot was lethal. But he was able to raise his head for a couple of seconds, then he collapsed due to heavy bleeding. Since he was faced to west, the entrance wound of the 10th shot should have been at posterior left neck. I think indeed the 10th shot destructed his rifle stock.

@sonjax6

Oh come on!

I made that comparison picture as part of an argument that Malis’ “footage” of “Crooks” on the rooftop was added in.

If you accept that video as unaltered then you are accusing the Hercules 1 snipers and Sgt. Zaliponi of lying before a congressional committee, because there is no way they could have missed seeing him sitting up like that. OK, the the Hercules 1 snipers probably lied about other things, but seriously - Crooks was sitting up with his body facing the other direction? On a 1:12 slope roof, with his butt maybe 7 feet from the crest? He should have been visible almost down to his waist…

[kincses-zsolt]

@sonjax6

lying before a congressional committee, because there is no way they could have missed seeing him sitting up like that

(Recently I revealed mathematical lies - due to simplified textbooks. Coherence of laser beam and the minimum bandwidth of any light source - since the uncertainty - cannot be reconciled.)
Anyway, I felt Zaliponi being disappointed about it. He really wanted to say that he fired the lethal shot.

[sonjax6]

I decided I’m lazier than I am cheap, so I installed Wondershare Filmora instead of ffmpeg. I wish I’d done it earlier - even it’s free features are great. I may spring for a paid license.

Anyway, I compared details from the same frame of PatientFish’s video. I found something I wasn’t expecting - simply playing an video can produce artifacts in some players.

I was watching one guy’s ears to match frames, and as it turned out that was fortuitous, because a change in the amount of ear showing in front of a reddish-orange shirt threw a color artifact in the VLC player, but not the Filmora player.

That’s all for now.

[phiphi-the-frenchie]

Do you know how and where to get this PatientFish’s video with all the ten shots?
Same question for the other videos in this dropbox you give us the link.

[kincses-zsolt]

@sonjax6

simply playing an video can produce artifacts in some players.

most probaby some players just skip the preferred decoding order

@kincses-zsolt

Decoding Time vs Presentation Time

When a video is encoded, especially with B-frames (bidirectional frames), the order in which frames are stored (decoding order) is not always the same as the order they should be displayed (presentation order).

@kincses-zsolt

Why B-frames Complicate Things

B-frames depend on both previous and future frames for decoding. So:

• A B-frame might need to be decoded after the frame that comes after it in presentation order.
• This means the decoder sees frames in a different sequence than the viewer does.

Without ctts, the player assumes decoding time = presentation time, which works fine for simple I/P-frame sequences. But with B-frames, that assumption breaks down.

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@phiphi-the-frenchie

the ten shots?

The ten shots were really 14, were preceded by at least 24 suppressed shots, and were supplemented by 3 shots as Trump was being pushed into his car and driven south from the Butler Showgrounds.
What we really need is a video, or still photographs, of all the enemy shooter bodies that were hidden.

[roger-knight]

The explanation is simple: McCullough was standing in a much higher position and at a different angle, so you don’t see exactly the same thing as in the body camera footage.

[roger-knight]

The newly obtained HD footage clearly shows a drone taking off from a position behind the AGR 6 building but in front of the trees, precisely pinpointing its launch site to an area directly behind the building.

The most suspicious aspect is that the drone takes off just before shots are fired.

But that isn’t the only unusual detail: two additional drones were captured on video before the shots, bringing the total to three. The first drone departed (from the same spot!) 1 minute and 37 seconds before the first shot was fired:

another:

They all appear to head toward the stage, which is also unusual.

We also captured a drone circling around Trump up at the stage, as shown in this picture:

Then, 1 minute 18 seconds after the shots were fired, the drones return to their original position, behind the AGR 6 building. (2 drones cought on video)

Most Likely Scenario
• A small coordinated group (2–5 people) on or near the roof.
• Some may have been launching and controlling drones, while one or more fired the shots.

The evidence clearly indicates that the scenario of a lone shooter is impossible; the coordinated use of multiple drones alongside the gunfire demonstrates the involvement of more than one individual.

[phiphi-the-frenchie]

I prefer not to comment for fear of being offensive…

[phiphi-the-frenchie]

@roger-knight

The evidence clearly indicates that the scenario of a lone shooter is impossible; the coordinated use of multiple drones alongside the gunfire demonstrates the involvement of more than one individual.

Could it be Momo the pigeon and his whole family?