6 seconds of Corey’s video, focusing on the speaker, which wobbles with the crack of shot 2, and already is falling during crack of shot 3, also knowing that Corey’s phone was recording audio at a known distance from the podium, but unknown distance from one side of the mach cone.
And a safety mechanism may have delayed the descent.
You have brought up a very good point with that. Nicely done. However, your Google AI response as well as this one from Grok say that a properly-working check valve should have completely halted descent, not delayed it. But it’s possible that the check valve safety system failed in addition to the main hydraulic line being punctured.
I think what this boils down to @flamecensor is that you see speaker movement immediately after Shot 2 and I don’t see any movement until immediately after Shot 3, which just happens to perfectly coincide with the appearance of a gush of horizontal spray [ref1] [ref2]. However, since that camera was panning left, we only see the spray for one frame, so it’s conceivable that it’s just a video artifact. (But what a coincidence that would be.) It’s unfortunate that we don’t have any video with a better view of the JCB boom.
Does anyone else here on the forum see movement of the speakers before Shot 3? Even with staring at that video over and over, I’m just not seeing it.
OK, and I’ll agree that the safety mechanism described by AI Overview seems to have failed completely.
But if the duration of Supersonic Shots 1,2,3 was 1.6 seconds, and based on my limited experience(a 2 ton engine hoist) with similar hardware/plumbing, the speaker descent, and/or the fluid spray, could have resulted from any of the 3 Supersonic shots.
Also, are you the Greg Nichols who was at the rally?
(comments on (1 of) your youtube pages suggested an ironic name coincidence)
Good catch on that @phiphi-the-frenchie. I just analyzed that documentary video and came up with the same result you did. There should be 2.78 seconds between shots 3 & 4, but in this video there is only 2.32. So, 0.46 second was edited out between the boom of shot 3 and the crack of shot 4. I don’t see a corresponding jump cut in the video, so this seems to be an audio-only edit. Why? Malicious tampering? Perhaps, but I doubt it. What would that accomplish? More likely the audio engineer heard a weird noise or cuss word and chopped it out, thinking “no one will notice”.
Easy, because 1 or more of the 3 suppressed shots aimed at Hercules 2 was heard by Corey’s phone.
I suppose.
Well, there was a Gregory Nicol at the rally, unfortunately. If I’d realized that at the time and known he ended up not looking too good I probably would have adopted an alias for this forum and my YouTube videos! The thought of going to the rally actually did cross my mind a couple days before the event. But it would have been a 3-hour drive each way, and I figured I’d have to get there around sunrise to have a chance of making it inside. So I decided not to go. Of course back then I didn’t know that just sauntering onto the AGR property at 5pm would have been an option.
In any case, this interruption in the sound of the video only occurs after shot 3 and therefore has no impact on the events preceding this shot 3.
I assume that your suppressed shots are supersonic, yes? Since Hercules 2 testified:
I heard more cracks. I thought that my partner was hit, due to the proximity of these whip-like cracks and the impact report.
The mach cone travels far and wide, easily heard 75 m off-axis from the bullet’s path in the Butler data I’ve looked at. So, any cracks that Corey’s phone recorded would have also been picked up by the podium mic.
I have a video showing the hydraulic fluid jet from the beginning of its exit from the crane supporting the speaker, but I don’t know where I downloaded it or how to share it on the forum.
From Dayve’s phone location, in apparent total silence, they just sounded like snaps to me, though Snaps 2 and 3 sounded higher pitch.
And I’ll never believe the snaps were Dayve, standing in shocked silence, snapping buttons on his phone case.
@phiphi-the-frenchie is it a different video than this one?
If so, it would be great if you would share it. You could do that via Google Drive, uploading to YouTube, Dropbox or mega.io
I felt sorry for him because he was the victim of an internet lynch mob, using live comments on a Chris Martenson podcast.
A podcaster named John Cullen also seemed to defame another cop, ~2 months ago.
With vague impressions and inexact shot times, your overwhelming problem is that Copenhaver was shot with 2 of the 3 supersonic shots from 18:11:32.5 to 18:11:34.1 EDT 13/07/24
Is it different from this one?
If the editors deliberately altered evidence after Shot 3, they could be guilty of altering evidence before Shot 3.
The evidence before Shot 3 was supplemented by a humming noise, sounding, to me, like a population of insects.
1 Like
RagTagVagabond shows the stream almost from the start, and in 4K detail. It’s a pretty concentrated stream. Is that the one you are thinking of?
1 Like
Do you have RedTagVagabond’s video, or a link to it?
Thanks.
He’s got three versions of it. This is the longest one:
1 Like
1st, he’s FAKED(forwarded) the audio, like most of ‘them’!
2nd, in his 3:29 video, his yellow square location ‘on the roof of this building’ is further West than Baldy!..even further West than Max!!
I guess that’s good news…I’m still watching it.
No, it’s not the same one, but filmed from roughly the same spot. In the one you suggested, you can see the jet of liquid on the right, but not from its origin coming from the crane.
I’ll try to download it.
Yes, it’s different; in yours, we can’t see the beginning of the hydraulic fluid leak.
1 Like