So It's Back To First Principles (Part 2)

[daniel59]

@unhandyandy

the cruiser

According to @offtheback the recording of the police cruiser was manipulated.

@daniel59

@offtheback

My guess as to what happened here: They first cut out all of the “real” shots with slightly different timing. This also cut out the noise. They then added the pristine shot waveform they wanted to use (eight times) at the spacings they wanted. Then they added some noise to mask the process. But the noise wasn’t the same as the real cabin noise. And in some places, they didn’t get it everywhere they needed it. Not easy to see if you are looking at the whole composite signal, so out the door it went.

@offtheback

But the report itself has almost no energy above 2000 Hz while the echo does.

The only physical world explanation that even starts to address this is that the echo is of the bullet sonic signature that bounced off something in front of the shot–I don’t know what that would be, DJ Stewart (joking)? Even he was too far away for that.

But what really happened is the report inexplicably has no high-frequency content. It doesn’t match the echo or the noise spectrum of the rest of the audio.

@offtheback

My explanation for why the police cruiser audio doesn’t converge along with the rest is that it’s fake. The follow-up question as to why it was faked is what I don’t have an explanation for, particularly if there was no second shooter. Maybe “they” had to edit out a section of the video where something happened in front of building 6 that was picked up on the mic, and they had to replace the reports along with a clip of the blank wall. Who knows, this remains a mystery.

Everything else on the audio analysis is solved in my mind.

@offtheback

We don’t know what the cruiser alterations were supposed to achieve.

[greg_n]

@sonjax6

This raises a question in my mind - why on NO ONE’S phone do we hear the sound of the shots direct to the phone as well as what came over the PA system?

In the “Don’t Run” video [ref] we can hear the crack from the mach cone followed soon after by the sound from the right JCB speaker, then the left speaker. Here is the video, playing at 0.1x speed:

As shown above, for the direct path from the mach cone, the crack traveled 75.5 m to reach the Don’t Run recorder. Looking at the audio waveform, we see that the sound from the right speaker arrives 34 ms after the direct path:

0.034 * c = 11.9 m
75.5 m + 11.9 m = 87.4 m
And that distance matches up well with the right telehandler.

The next sound is heard 50 ms after the direct path.
0.050 * c = 17.6 m
75.5 m + 17.6 m = 93.1 m
I don’t have the location coordinates for the left JCB telehandler, so I drew a line on Google Earth that was 93.1 m long, and as you can see in the image above, it terminates in a reasonable location for the left speaker to be.

[unhandyandy]

Putting TMZ-Scooper at 40.858295, -79.971420,
CW = 258’
ACW = 100deg
Then
theta_m = asin(1/3) = 19.5,
theta’_m = 70.5, so
phi = 180 - 100 - 70.5 = 9.5
Then the time gap is
258/1225*(1-cos phi) = 3 msec again.

OK, I’m officially changing my mind.
I think it is possible for the crack and bang to come so close together they seem one sound.

[daniel59]

@unhandyandy

So to refute your theory, I’ll have to try another recorder.

For the first three shots, you should only check the recordings that are closest to the green line.

That is Source 3 (Mike DiFrischia). He can be seen in the Source 4 recording from behind, standing to the left of the tree. To his left is another man who was filming. His recording could also be considered.

In all other shots south of the green line, a crack should also be heard when Crooks fired the first 3 bullets.

@unhandyandy

OK, I’m officially changing my mind.
I think it is possible for the crack and bang to come so close together they seem one sound.

Ok, and what’s your opinion about @offtheback claim, that the cruiser audio was manipulated?

[unhandyandy]

That’s your problem, not mine. I don’t see any reason to think it was altered.

[greg_n]

I made a mistake earlier when I said “1.5 seconds”. It was actually 0.68 seconds between shots 2 and 3. Sorry about that!

@flamecensor

David Dutch, hit with Supersonic Shot 2 at frame 8.
Speaker rocks, wobbles, no later than frame 12, and the speaker is clearly falling at frame 20, 1/2 second after the JCB hydraulic fluid was hit, with pressure loss.

I’d like to download the original source video for this. I poked around in your Superfly folders but could not find it. Based on how blurry Trump’s face is, I’m guessing that you zoomed in quite a bit, which would amplify any artifacts.

I watched your slow-motion video at least 30 times, but I am not seeing the wobbles that you mention. I think it’s likely that what you are observing is video artifacts due to the camera movements coupled with the phone’s stabilization algorithm. To demonstrate what I’m talking about, look at the lower-left corner of the video around the 0:17 mark. Look at the two utility poles to the left of the “JCB” logo. See how pole on the right seems to be moving with respect to the pole on the left?

Shot 2 happened when Trump brought his hand up to his ear, which is at the 0:04 mark. That places Shot 3 (0.68 seconds later) at 0:04 + 0.68 * 24 = 20.3, which would correspond to the 0:20 mark. I perceive the downward movement of the speaker begining at 0:27, though it certainly could have started dropping a few frames earlier. So, 7 frames after Shot 3, which is 7/24 = 0.29 seconds. Therefore, my conclusion is that the hydraulic line on the JCB handler was struck by Shot 3, hydraulic fluid began spraying out immediately and within 0.29 second we can clearly see the boom retracting.

[flamecensor]

@greg_n

I watched your slow-motion video at least 30 times, but I am not seeing the wobbles that you mention.

Thanks. I made another one just of Copenhaver and his friend, put it on X minutes ago, and Elon quickly warned of graphic content.
I could easily cheat, by adding audio to a silent movie, but I won’t.
I’m simply claiming that the speaker rocked slightly at impact, and the speaker was falling as Dutch was falling, and before Copenhaver’s abdomen was hit.
Problems were noted months ago, by PhiphiTheFrenchie, that audio was missing !
So we’ll never know what else ‘TV’ did to the source.
Please remember that TV is trying to hide the truth, just as you seem to be.
I’ll put the only source I had in my main directory here:

https://superfly.co.nz/mp4/cor.mp4

in less than 1 minute.

EDIT: upload took longer…filesize: 54337752 bytes.

[greg_n]

@greg_n

I watched your slow-motion video at least 30 times, but I am not seeing the wobbles that you mention. I think it’s likely that what you are observing is video artifacts due to the camera movements coupled with the phone’s stabilization algorithm. To demonstrate what I’m talking about, look at the lower-left corner of the video around the 0:17 mark. Look at the two utility poles to the left of the “JCB” logo. See how pole on the right seems to be moving with respect to the pole on the left?

Please answer my question.

@flamecensor

I could easily cheat, by adding audio to a silent movie, but I won’t.
I’m simply claiming that the speaker rocked slightly at impact, and the speaker was falling as Dutch was falling, and before Copenhaver’s abdomen was hit.
Problems were noted months ago, by PhiphiTheFrenchie, that audio was missing !
So we’ll never know what else ‘TV’ did to the source.
Please remember that TV is trying to hide the truth, just as you seem to be.

I’m not hiding anything. I’m just pointing out facts to you. @phiphi-the-frenchie what is this missing audio that @flamecensor is talking about?

Thank you for sharing the video from Corey’s cell phone. I marked the shots on it and watched it at 0.1x speed. It’s clear to me that the speaker is stable until Shot 3, then it begins its descent. The hydraulic line was punctured by Shot 3.

[flamecensor]

@greg_n

See how pole on the right seems to be moving with respect to the pole on the left?

I count 6 poles, including street light and other, and I know Corey’s phone was moving, and I know we’re guessing in which frame Dutch was hit, and in which frame Copenhaver’s abdomen is hit(because his arm ALREADY has been hit in these 43 frames).
Another ‘conspiracy theorist’, JD Wilcox, in Dallas, has claimed that the JCB fluid was hit by a bullet from northeast.
I hope I don’t have to use that, because I disagree with JD on that claim!

[greg_n]

@flamecensor

@greg_n

See how pole on the right seems to be moving with respect to the pole on the left?

I count 6 poles, including street light and other, and I know Corey’s phone was moving, …

No. What I said was:

@greg_n

To demonstrate what I’m talking about, look at the lower-left corner of the video around the 0:17 mark. Look at the two utility poles to the left of the “JCB” logo. See how pole on the right seems to be moving with respect to the pole on the left?

Observe these two poles around the 0:17 mark and you will see a small amount of “movement” that can’t possibly occur in real life. However, this is not an indication that the video has been “faked” or tampered with, it’s simply the result of moving phone + stabilization algorithm + video compression algorithm.

[flamecensor]

It’s resized 900%, so not easy to see, but Copenhaver’s friend seems close enough to have turned his head to hear Copenhaver, with left hand cupped near his mouth, say “I think I’ve been shot!”
Gray-haired friend also reacts, with his arm close to Copenhaver, and fluid and blood may have hit gray haired friend.
I think Copenhaver’s knees buckled at frame 33, but he’d already been hit in an earlier frame.
Copenhaver’s left eye ‘closing’, I think, was when he was hit, became unconscous, still standing.

[flamecensor]

@greg_n

it’s simply the result of moving phone + stabilization algorithm + video compression algorithm

OK, maybe stabilization/compression algorithms, or even an imperfectly secured pole, in a breeze.
How you would cope with Copenhaver’s eye movement at the 6 second mark of the MJTruthUltra video, is by being escorted out of the courtroom by the judge…
and you never commented about the ‘other’ fluid…the contents of Copenhaver’s abdomen hitting his shirt…from the INSIDE.

[greg_n]

I have no idea what you’re talking about, so I have no comment.

[flamecensor]

Watch his left eye at the 6 second mark.
And mostly fluid, some blood, bulging his shirt outward at the end:

[greg_n]

No, thank you. I think I’m done chatting for now.

[flamecensor]

@greg_n

I think I’m done

And you’d be further done if you tried to disprove the timing of Copenhaver’s abdomen shot, or his very-related arm shot, to a human jury in a courtroom.

[sonjax6]

A person on X pointed out a new-to-me video that shows Mr. Copenhaver in better detail in shots 1-3 than any other video I’ve seen so far.

https://www.tiktok.com/ @_all_is_on_13/video/7391274196942376238?_r=1&_t=ZP-91w3HuRBxXS

I don’t see anything super revelatory in it. It is good to see the other’s people’s reactions better.

PS copy and paste the address, and remove the space, don’t click on the link

[sonjax6]

Ron Johnson on Miranda Devine’s podcast

He says he still knows nothing about Thomas Crooks, even after subpoenaing Kash Patel in July, with many of the items specifically referring to Thomas Crooks.

I guess Patel got out of it somehow.

It really exposes Patel’s recent statement that they were giving information to the victims and to congress as a lie.

[phiphi-the-frenchie]

@greg_n

@phiphi-the-frenchie what is this missing audio that @flamecensor is talking about?

Maybe he refers to that:

@phiphi-the-frenchie

I analyzed Comperatore’s video and there’s something odd.

I looked at the timeline of the shots and the first three are consistent. We find the same delays between the shots and a difference of about 180 ms between the crack and the boom, consistent with the distance between Corey and Crooks.

But the time between the crack of shot 3 and the crack of shot 4 is about 2.3 seconds instead of 2.8 seconds on the other recordings.

So I’m guessing there’s a gap in the video of about 0.5 seconds between 1 minute 20.4 seconds and 1 minute 22.5 seconds.

[flamecensor]

6 seconds of Corey’s video, focusing on the speaker, which wobbles with the crack of shot 2, and already is falling during crack of shot 3, also knowing that Corey’s phone was recording audio at a known distance from the podium, but unknown distance from one side of the mach cone.
And a safety mechanism may have delayed the descent.