Chairman Mike Kelly, counsels for majority and minority, and Detective Collins himself will have historical problems explaining their answers, and lack of questioning, of one critical time, among others.
Collins says, Crooks
“just slowly turned on his waist, like – he was proned out like
this, and he kind of slowly turned around.”
Watch the video below, at normal speed, and tell me when anyone had time to do anything ‘slowly’?
Tyler says shots ‘rang out’ almost immediately after he fell down…he also says ‘approximately 10 seconds’ after he fell down…but it was 35.5 seconds, after his fingers hit gravel.
Did Chairman Kelly, or any of the lawyers, or Collins himself bother to watch the 25 minute video?
I watched more than a year ago, and said ‘35 seconds’…that was the first variable I wanted to know.
What really concerns me is that Collins was ~60 meters from the group supporting the bald man, who was the real shooter.
I looked at a roof this morning, 60 meters northwest of my vision, with eyes older than Tyler’s…I could easily see head-sized objects.
I couldn’t see Crooks(no quote marks needed because I know where he was on the roof 35 seconds before Tyler saw heads, muzzle flash, and gunsmoke, 23 meters northwest of Crooks(no quote marks).
Here are some of the consecutive frames of Tyler’s bodycam view, during the 35.5 seconds after he fell down, and before he saw the muzzle flash and gunsmoke, 23 meters northwest of Crooks(no quote marks).
Can anyone see Crooks?
Why was Tyler looking at Baldy, and NOT at Crooks/
I can’t see Crooks in any of these frames, but I can see the bald man, and I can see his head and surrounding area become ‘pink’, 2 frames before Tyler turns, to run East.
This is only 2 frames at 1 frame/second, repeated, obviously pixelated, but it shows the scene turning pink, from muzzle flash.
2 frames later, the bald shooter’s nose was at 960.5 pixels, in 1920 a pixel wide frame, horizontally centered. Detective Collins must have heard the first shot, here, and he must have seen the gunsmoke on the roof, here.
Detective Collins testified,
“And I would say approximately 10 seconds after I hit the ground and started
yelling on the radio and tell other officers that shots began to rang out.”
The ‘10 seconds’ looks closer to 35:
This video seems to show James Copenhaver’s arm reacting no less than 1/4 second after the suppressed bleacher corner shot impacts behind the back of corner man Dan:
I tried to contact US House of Representative Mike Kelly, of Pennsylvania District 17, by using his online contact form.
I used the physical address of the Butler Township Police Department, at
290 South Duffy Road, with phone number 724 283 3430, because a District 17 address was required by the form’s javascript.
Also, the form may have needed the Pittsburgh VPN I used in a different browser.
I quickly had visits to the webpage I made for Chairman Kelly, https://superfly.co.nz/j13/Chairman_Kelly.htm
The first visit was from Ashburn, Virginia 100.51.163.117, at
03 March 03:17:04 GMT,
followed by a visit from Los Angeles, 173.234.50.2, at
03 March 03:17:37 GMT, just 33 seconds after the Ashburn visit.
A couple of hours later, Chairman Kelly’s webpage had a visit from Milan, Italy.
My final question to Chairman Kelly was,
“Am I wrong for hoping for the truth, or should I be lying, like everyone else?”
I don’t have 1 hour 15 minutes to watch stale content.
Does Chris ever mention that Copenhaver was hit with Shot 1 and Shot 3?
If yes, please tell me the time, so I can skip forward to it.
Thank you.
Dave Stewart recorded 375 non-continuous pictures of a man at the northeast corner of AGR5.
Horselady and her flag blocked the view for at least 10 other pictures, as she rode calmly, apparently unconcerned, past a Pennsylvania State Trooper with his gun in his right hand, exactly 1 minute before the 1st supersonic shot.
The trooper stood on a picnic table, high enough to have seen…something.
Detective Collins also seemed to be looking up toward the unknown man.
Does anyone here know Horselady’s real name, or the 2 sisters, Valerie Fennell, or Debbie Kuminkoski, who may have expressed horse concerns?
I compared the view of Dave Stewart with Det. Collins at two different time points to try to see how much Det. Collins could have seen of the roofs.
Obviously he saw more than what his bodycam picked, since the cam was 12 to 15 inches below his eyes. It’s also devilishly hard to estimate how far south of AGR 6 he ran just before shots started, and how much the terrain rose, etc., etc.
Sorry for reusing a photo from an old discussion, but it might be useful to label them anyway.
The top pic is from Dave’s video, and it shows “Crooks” on the roof. I put lines across the trees to show how much of them is visible in the other two details.
One would certainly think Det. Collins saw the roofline at 6:10:08, since he backed up almost to the fenceline. “Crooks” was probably not at the roofline yet.
At just 6:11:32 (or 6:11:32, the timer may be off by a second), Collins’ bodycam does not pick up much of the trees at all. I conclude he probably wasn’t far enough away from the building to see “Crooks” in a low shooter posture.
That raises the question in my mind WHY Collins didn’t go far enough south to see the top of the roof. He strikes me as a pretty smart guy.
It occurred to me JUST NOW that I could also estimate Collins’ distance from the face of the AGR at 6:11:31 vs. his distance at 6:10:08 by measuring the distance (in pixels) between the roof ribs or the grooves in the vertical sections of the building face. It wouldn’t be super helpful without knowing the rise in elevation, but I’m always curious about things like that.
I can’t see Crooks, no quote marks needed, in any of the 10 frames, starting exactly 6:11:32, before he turns to run east toward his patrol car.
7 frames after his clock changed from :31 to :32, the sky above the bald man and his henchmen turns pink.
2 frames after that, the bald man’s nose is centered, at
960.5 pixels, in a 1920 pixel wide frame.
Collins saw muzzle flash, smoke, and the bald man’s head, on the roof.
The distance was certainly less than 70 meters.
Clearly seeing a human head 70 meters away is easy.
The gunsmoke also must have been easy.
No gunsmoke near Crooks(no quote marks needed) because Crooks didn’t shoot, at 6:11:32, or anytime after.
Do you think the patsy on the roof was definitely Thomas Matthew Crooks? I used to think it 90% probably was not, but now I just don’t know.
They could have powerwashed the roof if it was fake blood running down it, and they could have cremated him if his injuries didn’t match the official ones.
I believe the guy in so many videos, from so many angles, was Thomas Matthew Crooks.
In Tyler’s bodycam frames, I still can’t see him from 6:11:00 to 6:11:33.
What I do see is many more pixelated faces, backed by your Tree ‘M’.
…and many more faces, looking more like an ‘audience’ than an attack squad, in the tree west of AGR5.
The guy in 378 frames, with his arm raised and his mouth mostly open, for ~2 minutes, apparently had less than 5 seconds to jump into the shooting scene with Baldy and others.
Maybe he was just a cheerleader, or maybe he was able to fire the 5 fast shots, 5 seconds after Baldy escaped alive.
Do you know if anyone’s seen Kennon Hooper lately, and do you know Kennon’s middle name?
The whole 2 hours is 1 big error.
James Copenhaver was hit with Shot 1.
David Dutch and the JCB crane were hit with Shot 2.
Shot 3 is wedged against Copenhaver’s spine and a whole bleacher full of witnesses, including James’ GrayHairGrayBeard friend, already down at his feet, 5 seconds before the ‘second volley’, would testify that the the second volley wasn’t near them.
Hercules 2’s testimony of ‘endless’ shots, suppressed, ending with 3 shots between them, after Shots 1,2,3 also was ignored.
His ‘site map’ showing a red line to the corner has problems including, but not limited to, a large man in a blue shirt and a red hat clearly blocking the line south.
Why isn’t Chris here? I know he has an account here.
Ken Linke has an account here. Where’s he?
And Piper Grimley, where’s she?
Here’s Copenhaver’s blood soaked shirt, recorded by Corey Comperatore, long before the ‘second volley’:
SonjaX6’s overhead view site map seems to preclude possibility of a shot from Crooks to Trump(ear) to the infamous near corner(northeast) bleacher rail incident.
The bullet that hit the 13 July 2024 Trump rally bleacher rail was behind the back of Cornerman Dan, and it was from 45° east of your imaginary Crooks trajectory, because the dustball is clearly moving southwest…not south.
EDIT: your imaginary Crooks to Trump trajectory would have caused serious injury to CornermanDan:
Does anyone here know Horselady’s full name?
She stared east, obviously seeing a Pennsylvania state trooper with his handgun drawn…and then she rode east, apparently calmly, past the south side of American Glass Research Building 6’s center, exactly 1 minute before a bullet hit the arm of James Copenhaver, after hitting the ear of former and future President Trump, who’d already been speaking for 8+ minutes:
