Rule 2. Stay ahead of the plane—never let the plane take you someplace your mind gets to first
Rule 3. Taking off is optional—landing is not
this all happened in a matter of half a minute before the first shots were fired…
it is perfectly reasonable for them to adjust and take position, look for the alleged threat, take care of it when necessary and only then report on what they did and why they did it…
if they have to communicate first, they waste precious time and risk getting sued for criminal negligence for not having taken care of the threat first…
the above image shows Nick Norwitz (https://www.youtube.com/@nicknorwitzPhD) who uses the phrase “absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence” in the context of research findings all the time, but it applies to really every context, including the one we are investigating here…
With respect, people can convince themselves about some ‘comfortable’ stories, even the polygraph test would fail. But I investigate only technical issues occasionally. So I don’t trust testemonies. This self-hypnotic state of mind can be so strong, bc they want to save their butts. However, there must be contradictions.
USSS-HSGAC-Interim-Report / Page 54+55
Hercules 2:
“After we were searching for several minutes I saw two white vehicles pull into the AGR parking lot”
This 2 vehicles (1 PSP Trooper and Tyler Collins in M500-010482) came in from the water tower (started there at 18:08:42 and stopped in the parking lot at 18:09:03). Both Cops got out of their cars by 18:09:05. At this time Crooks was already on the AGR6 roof.
During the several minutes they were searching, Crooks made his way across the AGR roofs.
Hercules 2:
“And from those two vehicles I saw one individual emerge from the tree line, identified him as a police officer”
This must have been Tyler Collins who walked/runned towards the south side of AGR trying to get sight of Crooks. This was around 18:09:10
Hercules 2:
“I couldn’t tell why he was moving urgently, but I went over the radio with the following transmission: “Security Room from Hercules, locals are working something at the three o’clock, approximately 200 yards out.””
According to the Hercules 1 statements below, the info must have been radioed somewhen between 18:09:20-18:09:30
Hercules 1:
“According to the USSS Counter Sniper Team Leader, as soon as he and his partner (both at the Hercules 1 post) heard this radio transmission, they repositioned themselves to face the AGR building.”
I think here repositioned means they just turned around looking towards AGR in order to find out what happens. But their rifles are still facing south.
Hercules 1:
“When we looked, just plain eyes, no optics or anything, you could see police running towards the building with their hands on their pistols. I think one actually had a pistol facing towards the ground, out of a holster”
This must have been the PSP Trooper, he draw his gun around 18:09:25, all the other Cops from Butler TWP didn’t draw their guns until after the hoisted up scene at around 18:10:55
Hercules 1:
“That’s a pretty big deal for us, so immediately we turned and faced our guns towards the threat area”
It was between 18:09:56 and 18:10:00 (corrected/real time) when they turned around with their rifles
I don’t believe the Secret Service reports, but I do believe the audio data since the 7 recording devices I’ve analyzed have all provided consistent results. Please watch the YouTube video I posted a few weeks ago. It explains the approach I used and shows how I clearly identified the origin of all 10 shots.
yes, I watched your video, but it is, e.g., not very straightforward to me why you seem to link the analysis of the first 8 shots when looking at the vent/window hypothesis to the analysis of the 9th and 10th shot…
even if shots had been fired from the vent/windows (which is extremely unlikely, but that is a different story that we can better forget), why would the location of that shooter impact the location of the shooter(s) of bullets 9 and 10?
the sound analysis shows very good results for the “crooks on the roof” location and reasonable results for the vent/window location, but that means that it is undecisive where the shots came from, and that the outcome of the analysis highly depends on the configuration parameters which contains many unknowns…
I also do not believe any of these reports from commissions or organizations investigating this attack. as I mentioned a couple of times, these reports are consensus statements that have been highly polished, cover their **ses, and omit the crucial points they did not get consensus for…
the audio and video evidence is indeed the only thing we can rely on…
Thanks for the link to this drone footage, I didn’t see it before.
Are you refering to Crooks’ final car park and what location do you mean exactly?
Here, behind the trees the Hyundai Elantra was parked, we assume it might be Crooks’. But as far as I know it is not confirmed yet that this was the car Crooks drove in and parked there. Do you have other/more information on this?
Quite a while ago I brought this point up as well. Since they had key cards (Drew Blasko getting some out of the police car, to see in his bodycam), where are the AGR Door Logs from Jul13?
It doesn’t state Nicol went down into building 1 but he goes downstairs of building 1.
The problem here is, according to the very same AAR, building 1 (AGR6) has just 1 storey. Did Nicol go down to the cellar (if there is a cellar in building 1)?
I would strongly suggest they have miswritten and meant building 2 he went downstairs. Since he was positioned/assigned in building 2 this would make sense, wouldn’t it?
Here are some of the of fallibilities of human memory that investigators need to keep in mind when considering witness testimonies. This is why you need to corroborate testimonies with other evidence when it appears off. Keep in mind that these fallibilities can occur with witnesses that have every good intention, have no malintent, it’s just the nature of human memory.
Note that I compared his testimony with other evidence to prove it false or misleading. In other words, the other evidence did not corroborate his statements.
Or, it could be the correct location, just the wrong time. The timeline maps are fraught with inaccuracies, which I’ve pointed out in great detail in my analysis of the AAR itself.
That they have not always the correct times in the AAR we long before agreed on already. So it could well be correct location, wrong time.
Now that I look at your slide and think about it again, would there be anything supporting/opposing Nicol going out Door 14 to look for Crooks and seeing the 2 officers pulling up?
Technically, that is not what Nicol stated. He stated: “Unsure of direction of travel, “Away from the event,” and “'towards the Sheetz.” Here is the evidence that shows this:
AAR: "18:00 – Priolo to Nicol asking for direction of travel for suspect”
AAR: “18:00 – Nicol to Priolo unsure of direction of travel”
Text: “Not sure. He was up against the building. If I had to guess towards the back. Away from the event.”
And from the WP’s review of radio communications:
"From his vantage point on the second floor, Nicol was unable to discern where Crooks was headed, though, the transcript shows.
Crooks was walking to the northeast, toward an area between two wings of the complex of warehouses at Agr International. The space was enclosed on three sides, a dead end. But Nicol suggested Crooks was headed in the direction of a gas station on the other side of the building.
“He just went towards the Sheetz,” Nicol said, referring to the gas station about a quarter of a mile away."
In hindsight, you might think Nicol knew that was a dead end. but did he? He is from Beaver County, not Butler, and it was likely his first time at or inside the AGR building. It is more probable that he didn’t even know that was a dead end.
That is a possibility, but given the time involved it was most likely he took the most direct and timely option, Door 13. That’s the way the reports of his testimony make it sound to me.
None of it makes any sense. There’s no reason for him to leave the 2nd story. If he stays where he’s at when he says Crooks is headed towards Sheetz, he can shoot him within minutes when he climbs onto the roof. The AAR states Building 1. I’ve not found any reports that say door 13 or that the units pulled into the west side of the building.
