If a bullet ricocheted up into his neck, then we’d have seen a pronounced upward movement of that side of his neck and not the severe overpressure into his chest cavity we did see.
Very light bullets are the ones most capable of doing odd things after striking a body. BUT…they have to hit something solid and/or have bled off most of their speed first.
The chance that doofus was using saboted .30-06 rounds is very slight.
But even if he was, the chance that a 4000 fps slug would deviate by 30 degrees within a couple of inches of soft neck penetration is not even worth considering from a probability standpoint.
“I saw some weird things at the range, once…”
This line of inquiry is too speculative and hand-wavy for me.
Question about cavitation event inside the body…
But first:
Why is a puff of smoke seen on his right side? It even casts as shadow on the lettering of his shirt.
Why does his t-shirt rise OFF his body if the cavitation event occurs within the body… The shirt VISIBLY separates from his Lt-shoulders vertically as puff lingers & before shirt spikes to the left?
You’re assuming usage of factory ammo & standard bullet.
Test with a varmint-like/polymer bullet, with axial-scored jacket near tip, to look for hyper expansion upon Impact…
I don’t think the possibility of body armor should be dismissed so easily, based on video taken on cellphones and/or 100’ away. I don’t think that issue has been disposed of yet. There are financial reasons Kirk might have signed an NDA with a body armor company.
I think you and I are approaching this differently. When I see odd things that I can’t explain, I immediately try to understand what happened. There is so much data to digest and variables that we are probably unaware of. One of the most frustrating things to me is being unable to reproduce an odd observation. These odd observations is why I want to test things. Just consider how many big discoveries have been made by observing odd and unexpected behaviors. Many of these odd observations are of things that I have never personally observed.
Hand loading my own ammo is a hobby of mine. One thing that I love about hand loading is making cartridges that can’t be purchased because no factory produces them. I have no idea what kinds of forensics tests are used by police today that are kept secret from the public. I do chuckle a bit when thinking about the many various ways someone can mind fuck an investigator. This is why I like to consider both what is possible and probable.
I am wondering now if there is an analog to Snell’s law as it relates to bullets passing through a medium with heterogamous densities. I would love to see what happens when a high speed bullet hits round shapes of ballistics gel with entrained pockets of air. If we can show just once that a bullet path can rapidly change, we would get closer to the truth.
My comment about 123 grain SST bullets was simply to give an example of odd behaviors that I have seen. When a bullet hits the target and exits the side, I want to know what and how it happened.
I don’t know much but i thought I’d add the point that in the Butler case there was no one to make a case against. In this case the shooter is presumably alive. It is in the best interest of the legal team and investigators to keep some information back. The FBI is also rumoured to be investigating more than a dozen people involved. Maybe they are keeping things close to the chest until they make a solid case against the other guy.
A good surgeon does not concern him/herself with the person. It is a complex job that has to be accomplished and good surgeons are always cool. How do I know? My father was one of those. Among the first to do open heart surgery, spinal surgery, etc. That was a long time ago when surgeons were responsible for everything.
Thank you, Chris. Bureaucracies need people like you to keep them on their toes. I imagine all this data is going into an FBI data bin where people as disinterested as a postal clerk work on the information.
Through all the detailed analyses of the shooting video, there’s something I didn’t see until now. It adds nothing to the analysis, but is an interesting point to consider:
On Charlie’s tent - on the frill part encircling the tent - are printed the words “Prove Me Wrong”. His opponents couldn’t prove him wrong, so they decided to kill him, symbolically silencing him by targeting his neck i.e. his vocal-cord area.
I think they feared him because he had the potential to follow in Trump’s footsteps, to act as a unifying voice for heritage Americans, whom the globalists are busy dispossessing and disenfranchising. It seems the globalists are now resorting to nipping any promising upstarts in the bud, BEFORE such potential nuclei-of-discontent make it big on the political stage and mobilize large masses of people.
What IF the SHOT from behind theory (by RangeDayBro is almost true? INSTEAD, What IF you installed a hidden gun in a CAMERA / Audio set up and REMOTELY fired it. Look at that device to the left of the camera that is behind Charlie. What if it was silenced? The range from that “Camera” to Charlie’s head is about 6-8’ POINT BLANK range and the Angle (Camera, back of head and left front of neck) lines up and correlates to what is being proposed… HOWEVER, as proposed by RangeDayBro, a shooter from the side would not hit the back of his head, it would hit the side. Please also Watch the Candice Owens video… WHY were THESE VERY “Cameras” IMMEDIATELY removed as Charlie was being put into the car… WHY? He also is looking very guilty doing the removal. Per your info on the overpressure… a pistol round would likely cause a similar reaction that near the windpipe and chest cavity area. See pistol round video in gel… NOT as dramatic but still VERY deadly.
The AI, especially the cheap/free stuff, is actually not very clever as yet. If it can’t interpolate based on published information, it will produce some dumb answers.
The crack comes from the supersonic radial velocity toward the microphone. After the shockwave hits, then what? Is it supposed to be silent, or otherwise send no energy backwards of the Mach cone?
You can visualize the progress as the cone, but you can also consider that the point where the bang originates is the point where the radial velocity drops to the speed of sound. Alternatively, it’s the point where the Doppler effect drops out of being negative/infinite. Past that point, Doppler applies as per normal.
Mongo’s video is awesome. Here’s another one in case you doubt, this time with supersonic jets:
Snell’s law will apply. You need to compare relative velocities of travel through the medium. I suspect that the velocity change across the bullet (the part in the medium vs the part outside) will come out negligible, but now I’ve moved from proper Physics to guestimation, so feel free to prove me wrong.