The Real Constitutional Crisis

I think we need to really have a look at the No I.D. required part of the story and ask the question why? Also why do the Lib’s and Labour send out mail ballots that go back to there members office prior to the election day? Plus the Pencil, the Guy seen on Video rubbing out something on what appears to be a Ballot paper, etc.

Yeah, this showed up as a meme on a Q (& Anons) post; back about… 2018? I remember there being much question about what the meme means. (But if you know history; you understand what it means.)

Thus related to the question in the video where Peterson was asked about “The Jewish question”. (The leaders of the early Soviet Bolshevik take over; were mainly ethnically Ashkenazi atheistic “Jews”. Some people refer to people of this “tribal association” as “crypto Jews”.)

Interesting that Isaac Chotiner makes the “blood libel” reference? As I’ve seen no other news media make any such similar connected comment. (No, of course not. You’d get arrested for “hate speech” if you did! Yet I suppose, the statement is just to see who “bites” at it; (so our new “hate speech” laws can arrest them)!)

But if there’s anyone who ventures to dive down the “blood libel” rabbit hole? That’s an interesting one too. (Beware though; it gets really dark!)

Add to this the questions surrounding the USS Liberty ship and the “dancing Israelis” of 9/11.

Maybe the US needs to declare Israel as a “terrorist state”?
(That will never happen though because the politics are too complicated.)

Thus the question of whether we’ll ever see perp walks for the crimes committed against this country? (It would be “nice” to actually see a little deliverance of human justice! Alas though, it’s more likely we will have to wait for the Divine version.)

Historically though, this is nothing new. (Probably a whole lot more of these we could dig up if we put the diligence to it.)

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Here’s what Wikipedia had on “Israeli war crimes”:

A real gem:

This conflict isn’t one-sided. And don’t tell me “this is the result of systemic oppression”, because tell me any other group of people doing things like this where you’d go “that’s fair”.

Also, I would’ve hoped we were above that kind of racist illustrations. I’m not a fan of Israel, and I’m not Jewish either, but I don’t have to be to identify the extreme bias in posting that kind of stuff. Can we at least be better than 4chan when discussing these topics? That’d be great…

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No one said the conflict is one sided.

And I’m going to tell you the same thing I tell anyone else when they are confronted with uncomfortable information.

Don’t believe me; do your own research!

I have. Probably more than most, given I also was (un)fortunate enough to watch Hamas live stream raping and mutilating children and women. I admit I had to look away and pause streams a lot, but I did catch enough live to change my entire view on the conflict. I kind of wish this was shown unedited to the world, although I suspect it would be too much for most. I’ve still not gotten over it. It doesn’t matter what allowed it to happen – negligence or whatnot – when Hamas were the ones that went through with it, doing what they showed themselves doing.

I’m no fan of war. I have no stakes in Israel – it’s a country very very far away. But what they’re fighting – extreme Islamic terrorism – is very real and hits close to home frequently. And Hamas has shown what they’re willing to do to achieve their end goal

Israel has done a lot of things I disagree with, including much of the shenanigans occurring on the west bank with the settlers.

However, Hamas is a death cult that will gleefully sacrifice fellow Palestinians if it in any way aids in their crusade to rid the world of Israel and Jews. They’ve said so and they’ve done so. October 7th showed that they’re willing to go the entire way. I’d rather this be settled around a negotiating table but Hamas won’t negotiate, because their demand is legitimate genocide. They can’t coexist because their existence is based on preventing it.

So I find myself in the difficult position of having to watch naïve fellow countrymen protest against Israel in defense of death cults without understanding – or at times, understanding and agreeing with – Hamas. How do you reason with an enemy that wants to eradicate your entire lineage?

We can discuss endlessly about the history of this conflict – and it goes as far back as the foundation of Islam, by the way. It didn’t start with current day Israel. But at the end of the day, Israel, Gaza and Hamas all exist today, and have to find a way to continue living. Israel is fighting for the survival of its citizens against Hamas that wish to see them wiped out. In a sense it’s existential for both sides, except for some reason we’re showing more leniency to the actual terrorists.

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There is no ethnicity on earth that has not been slave as well as master, bomber and bombed, “terrorist” and “freedom fighter”, been wiped out as well as committed genocide themselves.

Israel is no less culpable in this conflict than Hamas. (The IDF has raped and murdered children too.)

After having gone to war myself; I come to this conclusion:

All of humanity is guilty!

That’s my “bias”.
And I make no apologies for it.

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By pure dumb luck, I have never had to fight in a war. My lottery number during the Vietnam war came and went, but I was not called.

All of the wars I might have qualified for were acts of naked aggression started by greedy men who had more power and money than any reasonable human needs, but still wanted more. So they sent other peoples’ children off to fight and die, and in the process turned some of them, at least temporarily, into amoral, unthinking robots whose eventual guilt over what their “orders” made them do and see still crushes their souls to this day.

In my opinion, if all humanity is guilty, then some are more guilty than others.

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Trumps allies should be the first to sue over Executive Orders in a friendly district court with a friendly judge. Trumps allies should file with the intent of receiving an immediate mandate by the judge to carry out the Executive Order.

A parallel suit by Trumps enemies will then have some significant hurdles to overcome to get a restraining order placed on executive agencies following Trumps EO’s.

Trump, go sue yourself!

Agree with your assessment of Peterson’s comments. I can’t even really tell the context (or specific question) that Jordan was answering because it is not on the clip. I did hear him speak about this subject in depth on Joe Rogan (I think) and I thought the concept of the dark tetrad types going to wherever the power is and influencing a population that can’t discern between their own selfish aims and the aims of the group they pretend to be part of to gain power was a helpful warning and frame.

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Yes, some are more guilty than others!
Totally agree there!

I’m glad you never had to go to Vietnam!

My son too will never be drafted either. He’s too sick and too disabled. (Some weird form of epilepsy = developmental disability.)

Desert Storm - the “gift” that keeps “giving”.

I was exposed to chemical and biological warfare agents. The most recent confession from the DOD is Sarin gas.

And “funny”; I just toured my 3rd assisted living facility today. I’m exhibiting some sort of cognitive issue. (I have a TBI too.)

I’m 54 years old.

And my greatest consolation for today was, at the point I need to be placed; this facility will take my 23 year old son too!

So no, sorry; I don’t buy that Hamas is “the bad guy” in this “play”!

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Well, I conclude that those who “can’t see it” are precisely those who either don’t want to see it, or are guilty themselves.

Which brings me to the point of Netanyahu’s lack of popularity among many Jews who do actually have a conscience! Lots of Jews both in the US and Israel have and are protesting the regime’s treatment of the Palestinians.

But of course the media doesn’t tell us that either! Did you know there were Jewish protests in Israel against the war?

Matter of fact; the majority of Orthodox Jews who are still here in the US, are staying because they believe the current state of Israel is illegitimate!

There are large groups of Orthodox Jews (thousands) who have been holding rallies protesting Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians for at least a decade now!

One rabbi I heard talking at a rally a while back, was saying that what the current Israeli government is doing is making the world more dangerous for everyone.

I agree with him!

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I agree. I believe Netanyahu is one of those types that Peterson is warning us about.

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