Spent 3 years in that area…Just way to much money, everyone has great insurance, huge wages, lots of hospitals, tremendous normalcy bias, cognitive dissonance, whatever. (and that was 20 years ago). We’re just to well off to worry, we’ll just go to the hospital, no worries.
Good to see that your taking matters into your own hands. Best of luck.
Costco hq in Issaquah is smiling all the way to the bank right now.
Coronavirus: Hong Kong expert claims outbreak is now a pandemic and US death could be ‘tip of the iceberg’
Asked if the virus, which causes the Covid-19 disease was now a global pandemic, Leung said the only reason for not classifying it as such was maybe the word “triggers public fear”.
“Technically this is a pandemic, as it is spreading locally in many countries … but the World Health Organisation insisted that it should only be called pandemic when local outbreaks get out of control,” he said.
First off, let me start by giving thanks to Chris, Adam and the PP team. Hope to enjoy beers with you guys again at another event. Also, to all that have shared so much inside and prepping info. I, like many here, have been wearing a mask now for over a month and dealing with the laughter and heckling, but I understand that it’s not their fault.
For the last month I have been trying to suppress this from myself, but after what I saw last night at work, I have to bring it up. I am a railroad engineer of 22 years. In that 22 years, I have never seen a military supply train have any priority. Last night, I was working on a train that is normally a high priority: meaning they stop all other trains and expedite us around them. This time, we were held while they expedited the military train. It took about 30 minutes for it to even dawn on me what had just happened. This is something I have never seen in my career, which is when this terrible thought resurfaced again.
Last week, my wife and I were on a road trip trying to find a more resilient place to live, thanks to the years of following PP. We saw a semi-truck loaded with what I had seen years ago and have known as mass coffins/ coffin liners. I enclosed a photo, I didn’t take this pic, but this exactly what saw going down the highway. They weren’t black though, but now an earthy-tan color. I honestly fear for myself and family for even posting this, but heck, we all have to go out doing what is right.
It all makes sense; the CDC knows the hour. I have seen the 2017 CDC info; they know what they should be doing, but they’re not. Why? I think they want the infections. This country is ran by very smart people, yet they mistakenly run it into the ground? I can hear Trump already: “This was the best economy ever until this happened.”
I have been telling people for years this was how they were going to end our “economy” with a false flag attack. I always thought nuclear, but this virus is even more brilliant. Think about it if you can, I live in a small town that could very easily be shut down and locked up with the guise of this virus. Meanwhile, everyone is told to lock themselves in to avoid being infected. In the meantime, they go to whoever they deem to be an enemy of the state: Conservatives/ gun owners (they know who you are) and systematically remove you with very little notice. If anyone questions them “oh they were sick and are being taken to quarantine for everyones good.”
We have all seen the videos of exactly that coming out of China.
For the followers of Bible, where is the USA in Ezekiel 38? If anyone would come to help out Israel it would be the US. The last pieces of Ezekiel 38 have just fallen into place in the last 2 years. First was ( Meshech & Tubal) today know as Turkey turning on Israel, EU and Nato. The last was (Sheba )Saudi Arabia and (Dedan Kuwait) becoming more of an ally to Israel. Last piece is the US needs to be unavailable by some means. Its clear because The creator of heaven and earth wants to show the world HE IS GOD.
Ezekiel 38:23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord.’
Again I Pray i’m wrong but wanted to share this fear anyway. iv included some links and as you can see not only are they ready, its seems as they have been planning for such a thing.
Pay close attention to whats going on around you. Be vigilant and be ready. Please share what you find.
US buys 1.6 billion rounds of ammo, enough to sustain a 20 year war.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-ammo-for-homeland-security-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/
Hundred of concentration camps already in the US
https://lighthascome.com/2019/08/17/800-prison-camps-in-usa-location-of-fema-concentration-camps-in-america/
https://educate-yourself.org/cn/femaconcentrationcamplocations07sep05.shtml
CDC Fema buys millions of coffins
http://www.truthandaction.org/fema-orders-1-billion-dollars-worth-disposable-coffin-liners/
Rex 84
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government.
Garden Plot & Rex 84
Operation Garden Plot is a general U.S. Army and National Guard plan to respond to major domestic civil disturbances within the United States. The plan was developed in response to the civil disorders of the 1960s and is now under the control of the U.S. Northern Command (NORTHCOM). It provides Federal military and law enforcement assistance to local governments during times of major civil disturbances.
Garden Plot was last activated (as
Noble Eagle) to provide military assistance to civil authorities following the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States. The Pentagon also activated it to restore order during the 1992 Los Angeles Riots.
Under Homeland Security restructuring, it has been suggested that similar models be followed.
“Oversight of these homeland security missions should be provided by the National Guard Bureau based on the long-standing Garden Plot model in which National Guard units are trained and equipped to support civil authorities in crowd control and civil disturbance missions.” Testimony of Major General Richard C. Alexander, ANGUS (Ret.), Executive Director, National Guard Association of the United States, Senate Appropriations Committee Hearing on Homeland Defense, April 11, 2002[1]
Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, is a plan by the United States federal government to test their ability to detain large numbers of American citizens in case of civil unrest or national emergency.
According to scholar Diana Reynolds:
The Rex-84 Alpha Explan (Readiness Exercise 1984, Exercise Plan; otherwise known as a continuity of government plan), indicates that FEMA in association with 34 other federal civil departments and agencies, along with other NATO nations, conducted a civil readiness exercise during April 5-13, 1984. It was conducted in coordination and simultaneously with a Joint Chiefs exercise, Night Train 84, a worldwide military command post exercise (including Continental U.S. Forces or CONUS) based on multi-emergency scenarios operating both abroad and at home. In the combined exercise, Rex-84 Bravo, FEMA and DOD led the other federal agencies and departments, including the Central Intelligence Agency, the Secret Service, the Treasury, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Veterans Administration through a gaming exercise to test military assistance in civil defense.
The exercise anticipated civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes that would affect continuity of government and/or resource mobilization. To fight subversive activities, there was authorization for the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of martial law. [1]
Existence of a master military contingency plan, “Garden Plot” and a similar earlier exercise, “Lantern Spike” were originally revealed by journalist Ron Ridenhour, who summarized his findings in “Garden Plot and the New Action Army.”[2]
Rex 84 was mentioned during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported on by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987. [3] Nonetheless, the basic facts about Rex 84 and other contingency planning readiness exercises–and the potential threat they pose to civil liberties if fully implemented in a real operation–are taken seriously by scholars and civil libertarians.[4]
Exercises similar to Rex 84 happen regularly.[5] Plans for roundups of large numbers of persons in the United States in times of crisis are constructed during periods of increased political repression such as the Palmer Raids and the McCarthy Era.
For example, from 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of over 100,000 persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the “ADEX” list.[6] This list contained many labor leaders, scholars, and public figures of the time.
In 2008, for the first time an active military unit has been given a dedicated assignment stateside for civil unrest containment. It is assigned to Northcom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.[7]
References
- ^ Reynolds, [1]
- ^ Ridenhour, Ron (1975). "Garden Plot and the New Action Army". CounterSpy.
- ^ Chip Berlet, Right Woos Left, [2]
- ^ Berlet and Reynolds
- ^ Diana Reynolds, "The Rise of the National Security State: FEMA and the NSC," CovertAction Information Bulletin, issue #33 (Winter 1990).
- ^ Donner, Frank (1980). The Age of Surveillance: The Aims & Methods of America's Political Intelligence System. New York: Alfred Knopf. pp. 166.
- ^ Cavallaro, Gina; "Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1"; Army Times, online, Monday Sep 8, 2008 [3]
- Operation Urban Warrior - Marine Corps assistance to civil authorities.
- National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
- NSPD-51
- HR 1955
- COINTELPRO
- Global Security
- "U.S. Can Confine Citizens Without Charges, Court Rules," Jerry Markon, Washington Post, September 10, 2005; Page A01
- "Reagan Aides and the 'Secret' Government," Alfonso Chardy, Miami Herald, July 5, 1987. Also available as photoscans in PDF format here.
- "Martial Law Concerns," Congressman Jim McDermott, House of Representatives, March 11, 2003
- Information about Operation Garden Plot, the larger operation of which Rex 84 was a part
- "Foundations are in place for martial law in the US," Ritt Goldstein, Sydney Morning Herald, July 27, 2002
- "The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act: An Assault on Civil Liberties in the Name of Homeland Security," Sue Blevins, Heritage Foundation Lecture #748, June 10, 2002
- "325,000 Names on Terrorism List, Rights Groups Say Database May Include Innocent People," Walter Pincus and Dan Eggen, The Washington Post, Wednesday, February 15, 2006; Page A01
- Chip Berlet, Right Woos Left, Discussion of Rex 84 conspiracy theories.
i just ordered more supplies, and find that typical prepper supplies appear to be running very low. Virtually all of the traditional Long-Term Food Storage places (think My Patriot Supply, Wise Company, etc…) appear to have most items out of stock, and an 8-week wait list is shown for one site. My Patriot has the following message - ALERT! Demand for our storable food approaching 100X normal volume. Shipping WILL be delayed on many orders, potentially 8 weeks or more in rare cases. Complete checkout to reserve your place in line now!" Next, Costco stores (from national news) are seeing a rush to buy key items like Toilet paper, rice, etc… Hence, I go to my local alternatives (like Wal-mart), where I ordered online for delivery. On Saturday, I attempted to order 10-lb bags of rice, and they are not available. Wal-mart substituted 5-lb and 2-lb bags as alternatives. (Instead of 60 lbs, I only got 30 lbs of rice total). I attempted the same order on Amazon, and I find Amazon simply orders through Wal-mart in one case. The 12-lb bags of Uncle Ben’s Long Grain rice appear at a higher price than in the past $27 for two 12-lb bags). Still waiting for two 12-lb bags through Amazon - we will see what happens, but I would think since Wal-mart is out, Amazon may not be able to deliver. Conversely, my local upscale grocery store (Harris Teeter) where items are sold in smaller quantities appears to be largely business as usual.
Thanks for all the nationwide updates all. I think it is helpful to reaffirm we are ALL seeing weird things that don’t make sense. Sometimes I really start to doubt my sanity and think I have way overblown this, and then I see some knew news tragedy. I am a very intuitive person and something just feels all wrong about the USA response. ALL WRONG. Smart people doing stupid things??? I actually saw from one of the news anchors that the patient who died was only tested for CV because her treating doctors did it without permission. That is my hair raising moment. Which sadly, makes me really believe what Bruno saw was no accident.
I can’t remember who posted about Houston, but do not come here. A fellow RN friend of mine sent me an email circulating that CV is circulating here, they will not announce due to the HUGE 4 week long rodeo event that just started this weekend. Also, international students and faculty from Rice Univ were apparently quarantined, also not on the news. My husband frequently goes there and I am of course now concerned. Risk is low until maybe it’s you and yours I suppose.
Also, my dad lives in Lake Charles, LA. He has a family friend who’s daughter (middle aged) died of “flu” within the week that persons mother died. 2 immediate family member dying of flu in the same week is eyebrow raising. To not, Lake Charles hosts a wide variety of international, especially Chinese, to the multiple casinos they have there.
Costa Rica: I echo the concerns about your symptoms. While I know you mentioned hospital averse, your symptoms very much indicate you need a medical assessment and possibly even oxygen supplementation. Of note, this virus has been evaluated at giving ‘low-grade’ fever, which is 100.4. Many people have not had fever. Dry cough seems to be the biggest complaint initially. However, that being said, an adult should never have an oxygen level in the 80’s unless you have a known heart or lung condition. There are alot of others it could be like regular flu with secondary bacterial pneumonia. I dont want to scare you, but do hope you seek help today and that you start to improve quickly.
On another note, how do we feel about buying an airstream RV and driving off into 100 acres of uninhabited woods??? I thankfully rolled out of the market Monday morning last week so I am ready to put my money to work as Cramer says. LOL Can we just disappear?? My husband could never leave his cellphone so that wouldnt work. HA!
Be well all!!
Live updates: Last of Diamond Princess crew disembarks in Japan; Washington state announces new cases
"The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about six weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with hundreds of infections likely in the state. "
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/live-updates-last-of-diamond-princess-crew-disembarks-in-japan-washington-state-announces-new-cases/ar-BB10A0Aq?ocid=spartanntp
It’s been on my mind for ten days at the first indication of symptoms, and today I learned that it’s plausible I have the novel coronavirus. My lifestyle is already somewhat isolating, and I’ve isolated still further since Chris Martenson’s updates in late January, so I have a fair idea what might have happened.
On January 30 I shared a flute with a high school girl, joking about not sharing viruses. Within seven days she came down with a bad case of the “flu.” Then her stepfather caught it, and on February 10 or 11 he visited the local hospital where he was prescribed oral antibiotics and was sent home because there were no beds available. He worsened, and on February 11 he checked into the emergency room of Sacred Heart Hospital in Spokane, Washington, where he was given albuterol, IV antibiotics, and put on a ventilator. The doctor said had he not come he would have died within 12 hours. Today I learned that he tested negative for influenza. His symptoms were: fever, pneumonia, low blood oxygen, sepsis, and sharp chest pains that he described as similar to a heart attack, and without the usual flu symptoms of head congestion, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. It’s quite distinctive.
My first symptoms as such were on February 20, and consisted only of a five-minute flash of fever after breakfast and the sensation that there was an infection in my lungs, but without cough or phlegm. I fasted for 24 hours, then ate anthocyanin-rich berries, and I still don’t have any symptoms except for that continued presence in my lungs. My mother reported similar symptoms a day later, but without fever. A week ago the wait time at Sacred Heart Hospital ER was five hours, anecdotally on account of respiratory disease, and I’ve heard of others with similar symptoms in Western Washington.
What is it? Probably not the flu, and until last Friday (as I understand it) no one was testing for COVID. I’ve tried to be respectful when I interact with people or touch surfaces, but if this has been in the public high school since late January, it’s already endemic.
Chris
I am physician sw fl … covid 19 Sarasota
Doctors Hospital of Sarasota has been notified by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) that we have a patient in our facility who presumptively tested positive for COVID-19. This patient was admitted to our facility in late February, and remains in our care. On Friday, February 28th, the CDC changed its guidance regarding COVID-19, specifically, the criteria for persons under investigation (PUI), which consequently led the patient to be tested. Upon recognizing that the patient was a potential COVID-19 case, Doctors Hospital of Sarasota immediately and appropriately activated all protocols for handling potential COVID-19 cases, including immediate isolation.
All potentially exposed employees and providers have been identified and the hospital is communicating with them to answer their questions and provide additional information. We are working very closely with the local and state departments of health as well as the CDC to assure that we continue to take all appropriate precautions.
Please know that the safety of our patients, colleagues and community is of the utmost concern.
For more information, including risk levels for healthcare workers please visit the CDC website.
Just as we have done with seasonal flu and tuberculosis, we identify and treat infectious diseases while minimizing risk to caregivers. By being aware of the very latest recommendations of the CDC, Doctors Hospital of Sarasota was able to identify this patient and pursue testing at the very earliest opportunity. In this time of concern, we want you to know that we truly appreciate your extraordinary efforts to care for and protect our patients and community. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact our Chief Medical Officer, Michael Schandorf-Lartey, MD at 941-342-1158 or
Michael.Schandorf-lartey@hcahealthcare.com
*We are also postponing our Doctors Day event, which was scheduled for Wednesday, March 4th. We will be back in touch soon regarding the new date.
Hi Mike, I hope that you and your loved ones stay well and free of the coronavirus. I’m not a doctor so wouldn’t be able to comment on your symptoms and those of your mother. You seem pretty astute and well-informed, so you’ve possibly already checked the Washington state Department of Health website. Here’s a link that may be helpful, and of particular interest might be the self-monitoring form for symptoms: https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus/Resources. There’s other information on the site, with some links to local health departments I believe.
Depending on your self-assessment, you may want to consult with your primary care physician by phone and possibly get tested for Covid-2019. The saving grace (if there is one with this virus) is that you’re in a state that is now a high priority for testing, contact tracing and containment; and you’re early enough in the process that the health care systems are not completely overwhelmed–yet.
Good luck, take care, stay well and please keep us posted if you’re up to it.
It is a pandemic, (they tend to happen every so often) topped with a large dose of gross incompetence and hubris by the government… (like that is a big surprise…)
“The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct.”.
Respectfully and kindly suggesting that a more grounded and pragmatic approach to this crisis might have a better outcome for you and your family…
Second that Sparky - all the best to you Mike Anderson. Fingers crossed for you, one and all.
I hate to be the doomsayer, but, there is a fairly good chance that taking a trip could expose you to the virus, infect you, and then your grandparents. Something to think about.
I was watching spooky videos about those “coffin liners” fifteen years ago, it’s an old conspiracy theory about FEMA camps and martial law that has resurfaced. Is there anyone out there that can please identify what those plastic things actually are, so we can finally put this to rest? I’d bet money those are not intended as coffins and have a much more ordinary purpose.
As we have seen in Wuhan, the practical way to dispose of numerous bodies is not putting them into plastic tupperware containers.
Believe this may help w/ your question. GLTA!
I was driving around today getting things done, thinking about my prep and this virus, and I suddenly had a big thought.
(ok I almost ran off the road then, but wasn’t chewing bubble gum too so I was ok)
We’ve established that heat causes the virus to die quick, 86F plus I believe. In my tool box I have an industrial heat gun but also one of those cheap hair blow driers. Little sucker puts out some heat too.
Why couldn’t you just remove a mask then give it 5 minutes (or more) of 100F heat to sterilize it?
Wife started checking her online bulk sources for supplies. Ran into a bunch of out of stock messages.
Maybe it would also, potentially, aerosol some virus…
5 minutes is an eternity. No way are people going to stand around for 5 minutes and heat their mask. How many people floss their teeth every day and that takes less than 5 minutes. Plan B?
I think that first, you could never know if that realy would work, and second, heat, sun, chemicals etc… will quickly wear them out.
Podcast here yesterday or day before addressed how to re-use masks , this is not from a comment or my opinion, I think it was the Rawles interview, but it could have been Chris M. Anyway, he said to just rotate them. So, take one off and leave it for 9 days. If you have 9 or 10 masks you can just rotate. This will not cause degredation.
That means packages or other goods, if not sterilized, can be left for 9 days too.
Because your contact was a relative of the man who is in critical condition (thus he is probably being tested), you may not yet meet criteria unless you become critical yourself, and we certainly don’t want that. Or unless he tests positive and they test his daughter as part of contact tracing.
I read an interview with a Paris hospital physician who was saying that they can’t take care of everyone and those who are not that sick should stay home and not try to get tested - it’s just too crazy in the hospitals. You can keep track of the testing criteria and reach out when they change. But call first and see what your doctor says.
This whole question of testing criteria explains a lot about proportion of mild vs. severe cases etc. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/covid-19-testing/
And yes, please keep us posted if you can.