Where Were The Two Local Snipers When Trump Was Shot?

To be precise, we saw only one room on Rep. Cranes video, a rather small room at that. It did not extend to the east wall because of the wall the whiteboard was on. Again, why not use windows 1 or 2 to film from?

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agr

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Almost only works with hand granades & MOAB’s


If you’re trying to ID a potential spot of exploiation, then the appearance of the area above the top louver needs to be exact in detail

If the dark area is shadow, then we should see the same shadow onthe west vent
 If something has been removed, creating an opening that is hidden by the shadow, then that can only be proven by knowing the exact unit and how someone could remove or bend that portion to creat an opening

Without those details, its not going to hold water, and is just a distraction away from something more important, such as willful negligence to not take action via the west side causeway, with cover from a person at the retaining wall

Scrutiny of that inaction, aka negligence, will cause the LEO’s to start to sing, or go to jail for neglegent homicide





That’s fair. It makes more sense to check viewing angles of every window on that second story.

Along the same lines, it also makes sense to investigate every window and vent on that first building.

Granted, they had plenty of time to make alterations starting the evening of: as soon as they forced everyone to leave.

One possibility I’ve been considering, what if Crooks was told this was a training exercise? What if he was told they were testing security? Maybe he was as obvious as he was because he thought he was part of a drill. He could have been provided blanks.

Reality would have broken real fast after that first shot. Did he really lie back down and then get shot? Or did he sit up in confusion, look at the rally crowd, and get shot while sitting up?

Can someone find out from an observer whether he was fully sitting up or lying down when “his hair blew” up?

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Thank you. I spend a lot of time scrubbing the alt internet and I still miss a lot. Been doing it since 2020 and logged over 3K hrs😉

That would be the Jon Malis photo showing him lying on his side with his torso up allegedly aiming toward the crowd.Therefore, half lying and half sitting up. And BTW, that position I think would align with a grandstand kill shot if the entry wound was left side of mouth and exit was behind his right ear, right.

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He looked like he was sitting up and looking at the crowd. In my opinion, he didn’t seem to be aiming at the crowd to that side.

It seems more like the reaction of someone that is confused. Why would you ever sit straight up if you were in sniper assassin mode?

Either he didn’t expect to be shot at because he was told it was a drill or he didn’t expect to be shot at because he was told he would NOT be shot at. One or the other.

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I don’t believe that vent will clear the two chain-link fences.

It’s even more strange because one of the guys on the western side of the building says “he’s looking at us” or “he’s turning this way” and I think less than a second later he’s shot. So why does his body end up facing directly towards the podium? Shouldn’t it be at the 3 o’clock 9 o’clock view on the dial with his feet pointing towards 3 o’clock? It doesn’t make any sense.

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It doesn’t, the initial death pose is on his left side facing the rally crowd to the west side of the AGR building: which makes me think they definitely shot him while he was sitting straight up.

They adjusted his body later and ziptied him and sort of “faced” his chest down, plus they checked his pockets.

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Paramount Tactical in his video yesterday said they had a drone operator with a fancy specialized drone that can get this type of data out at the site. He is going to cover it in a future video after they download and process the data.

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My point is that one would probably choose the best long range ammo with the most lethality, which is possibly not frangible ammo.

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Here is some aerial footage from Butler, the left east facing windows is open (1m20s - 1m28s). As there is no sun anymore (sunset on J13 was at 20:51pm) I think that footage is taken well after the shooting.

At the time one of the first officers went up the roof, both east facing windows were definitely closed. It’s clearly to see when one guy passes in front of the windows blocking the white reflection from the roof (watch between 17m30s and 17m32s)
BTPD Body Cam footage 7.13.24 – Dropbox

Hi Commenter,
I completely agree with your assessment that the snipers stationed in the two-story building overlooking the Building 6 roof were not capable of responding in any effective way to the shots being fired just below them. Of course, that is assuming they were just sitting on their buttstock behinds with cotton in their ears. More likely, they were out of the room and ignoring their overwatch duty. Makes you wonder how one of the snipers managed to take a couple of photos of Crooks down on the ground below the window.

Thank god that an ESU fellow with a rifle was able to fire on the shooter from across the field within 6 seconds after the shooting began.

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Three letter agencies and the media reported that Crook’s Hyundai Sonata was found near the rally location. I am 99% sure that Crooks’ car was not found at the AGR complex. The 1% of uncertainty was not being able to search inside the buildings. :wink: (This is a subpart of my larger project on analyzing the Crooks’ sightings on the day of the rally.)

Edit: Updated Graphics

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I heard somewhere that it was at Sheetz. We’ll have to get confirmation on that, but at some point during all of this, 100% someone said his car (not a van) was at Sheetz.

Awesome work Sorey!

This definitely answered question #3 in Window Gate post.

Sorey also provided the Video from Helicopter confirming window was opened at some point before Grassely BC video with SS first interrogation by Crooks body maybe around 20 minutes after first shots fired.

So someone opened window and would be presumed to be GN or M Sniper.

It would be great to have that information to see how credible it is. My next step is addressing what Crooks was doing between ~16:02 (finished flying his drone) and 16:26 (spotted by Jason Woods at bldg. 6 picnic table.) I cannot confirm whether or not his car was the one Woods referenced in his text, but if it was it was out of the frame of the photo provided to Chuck Grassley. If it was his car, then he must have driven it off site after being sighted. That’s where Jon Malis’ dash cam video comes into play as potentially him walking back to the site after parking his car, at Sheetz or wherever. He is then sighted at 17:10 somewhere around the AGR buildings. Those are the remaining 2 gaps Im trying to drill down into to account for his whereabouts.

First, you wouldn’t need to use rifle when your handgun, just like the one GN carries out with him 2 minutes after shots fired abandoning his job completely would have worked just fine.

Second, he could use gun or rifle from E. Window (Window Gate) which would have been window they would have ran to upon LEOs reporting suspect running on roof three minutes prior.

Thanks much for looking into this.

If you could please provide me some contact information for them.

I have some very specific knowledge with use of drones, surveys and mission planning and other resources who used to work for me with what information, data, and tools to create accurate models with accuracy as low as 1.5 mm.

I just want to make sure we try to get as much information as possible this next drone flight can provide.

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