Is that just a suggested room diagram, or are you holding out with a floor plan? I would sure like to get a floor plan.
Just I guessed.
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They are more concerned about the shape of glass and plastic bottles.
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What confused most people (including me) is that the bodycam of one of the first people on the roof shows him counting 5 casings. Then later in that same video, he counts 8.
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As far as I understood, he first missed 3 casings because they were on the other side of the ridge, therefore his first count was only 5.
I think somebody even made a post at one point, indicating the casings on a still.
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That was from my recollection of a discussion a few weeks ago. But in reviewing it now I see that the version of the vidieo where the vents or ports were obscured was from a low-res police body cam. In the high-res version they were present.
I dont recall seeing the video where an officer made a correction from the initial 5 to 8.
I just recall 5 shells counted on the video.
I guess I need to do some backtracking & see/hear for myself.
I’m highly skeptical of this entire event & placing Crooks as a lone gunman.
I missed that ‘correction’ in the number of casings from the officers on the scene.
I proudly wear the mantle of being a skeptic when it comes to the govt version of events, etc on J13. It started years ago with the events at Dealy Plaza and has expanded.
There was way too much misinformation from the start.
Also what caught my attention was the fact that this was the first event that the USSS had deployed a counter-sniper team. And in addition, it was livestreamed by several major networks - which could be just a coincidence but nonetheless…
In Gary Melton’s interview of Jon Malis they concluded that 3 casings were to the left of the shooter (east) because he had the gun turned sideways (max low profile) so that the ejection direction was up and slightly leftward, while the other 5 casings were to his right (west) because he had then turned the gun upright.
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thanks, I need to watch this.
I once heard a YouTuber who gave a convincing argument. I’m not too much into shooting, and correct me if I’m wrong, but it is rarely the case that a casing falls in front of the gun let alone 3, especially when Crooks is positioned in the way everybody saw him on the roof. In addition, everybody seems to forget that he was also shooting with an angle. The angle would even more favorize the casings to go to the roof side where Crooks is and not to the opposite side of the roof. Therefore the 3 casings are very suspicious.
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Thank you for looking it up.
There’s been a lot of discussion on “recoil”. I said this before, 223/556, especially in a prone position with a 16" barrel has virtually no recoil.
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The first report on the roof was 5 not 8 then they changed it later.
Also here is Dan Bongino video today with FBI pics and what he thinks.
Go to about 34:40–38:30
Here’s a question.
How likely is it that a shooter, in this case Crooks, would change their shooting style when shooting 8 shots?
You need to keep in mind that when Mr. Trump was shot he was leaning forward, so his ear was a few inches lower and further left than what appears in the picture.
Greg_n’s analysis is fatally flawed. Time distance of arrival analysis requires that one actually know the time of arrival, so we would need to know the actual time stamps of the videos down to the millisecond. Coordinating the videos to the “snap” sound of one of the shots adds in a huge error.
With the difference in audio signatures of the shots, differences in snap-bang time and Roger Knight’s work in backtracing the first bullet, I’m fairly sure the first three shots came from the AGR building 6 vent.
I suspect the shooter was probably standing on a table in the room. It’s a pretty simple matter to take out a ceiling tile or two and then put them back when one is done.
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This is interesting.
I still think it is 3rd window, but your creative thinking is awesome and it should be considered as an answer.
I like third window because it is the least disruptive. No ceiling tiles have to be removed. A sniper wouldn’t be in a weird or hot position.
Hopefully everyone noticed those ‘flaps’ with downward angles pointing to the outside, either from the videos or this photo… and that the rifle inside would need an upward pointing line of sight so that the bullet trajectory matches the elevations from @roger-knight 's drawing. That seems an adverse angle situation, especially when one plans to fire 3 rounds through that in 1.5sec. But hey… if even video evidence of a flying casing and felt recoil isn’t evidence enough, let’s keep checking the elevations on trump and rail and see where they lead us.
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Exactly. Plus, that video is zoomed and compressed. Even the small amount of recoil probably wouldn’t register. MP4 compression predicts frames and interpolates them. If there isn’t significant movement, the compression will disregard the movement.
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Hi PhilH,
The topic is not if we can see recoil or not, because that conversation has been going on ever since the video came out. Now we are investigation if the video of Crooks on the roof has been eligibly edited between last Friday and last Tuesday. And there already seems to be proof that somebody added more dynamics to Crooks body, adding more recoil. If this is the case, we can stop analysing this video and it will be put into the red zone…