I’ll approach this from a logical evidence based position to debunk it.
And first, it’s not up to folks to prove the window was not opened. If you advance or support a theory, it’s incumbent on the one with the theory to show evidence and explain how it is plausible. I believe the 1st floor windows are not plausible because:
On to evidence:
- We have no evidence of them being opened. Many people including me have reviewed the Stewart video many times and he scans left and right across all those windows in key moments before, during, and after the shooting. I agree there is simply no logistical ability that a shooter or even a pair of people could surrepticiously open the window wide enough to take a shot, then shoot, then close it, without being detected by witnesses or captured on video.
What folks are seeing is normal imperfections in glass reflections. As I sit and type this, my neighbor across the street has two casement non-opening windows on the front of his house and BOTH have the similar reflections on his windows. I can see clearly they are not and do not open. In my decades of living in the real world, I know for a fact windows cast weird (or really, normal but unpredictable) reflections.
Watch the video yourself. It’s in the dropbox. There’s no point where these windows are off screen long enough to open, take shots, and close.
Video: Dropbox
Relevant timestamps to fully debunk the “window” theory. NONE ARE OPENED.
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3:35 - one uniformed officer is standing there in view looking at windows, walks toward the parking lot, while another officer stands on a picnic table facing the AGR and all windows.
3:55 - we see the window closed with a light reflection, woman on horse rides by. A cop remains standing on the picnic table in total view of all the windows.
4:07 - all windows again in video view and all in a closed position, with the one window continuing to have the same light streak imperfection.
4:16 - scan again across all 3 windows, window 3 still has same light imperfection.
4:33 - boosted officer circles back to the south side of AGR#6 in plain view of all windows and shouts at people to move away (an odd statement and course of action, I admit).
4:47 - Stewart again pans his camera across all 3 windows, NONE are open.
4:49 - Stewart again catches window 3 in the exact same closed position the exact same light glare on it as the prior 2+ minutes, showing it is in the same exact closed position as before.
4:50 - The windows are all again in view. All are closed.
4:53 - Now a uniformed officer (boosted officer) is standing immediately in front of all CLOSED windows yelling “he’s got a gun,” (or someone is yelling that), and all windows are plainly in view of Stewart’s video camera and the officer and all are CLOSED.
4:55 - 3 shots ring out.
4:59 - Officer is standing/running directly in front of the south AGR all 3 windows are CLOSED as the shots are being fired.
5:00 thru 5:07 all 3 windows are in and out of view and NONE ARE EVER OPENED during any of the firing.
So, to anyone in delusional land, this is exactly how the video plays out and this is a DOA theory of nonsense that needs to be put to bed. NO WINDOW WAS OPENED on the S. AGR #6.
- This/these windows are obviously closed and in the totally closed position. They appear to be casement windows with no ability to be opened. They are different than the 2nd floor windows in that they have a white square around the edges. This might be a ‘glass break’ security type tape. Regardless, unlike the 2nd floor windows which have no such tape and which do open by a hand crank, these are different.
And crank windows are very slow, takes several seconds to crank one open. No chance this could occur without witnesses and several cops seeing it, and no chance it would escape the many video frames left and right on Stewarts video. Example of the hand crank on the 2nd floor window. If you have any experience with these, they are very slow. We (and witnesses, cops) would observe a person standing there running the hand crank.
Let’s momentarily assume the window could be opened. It would only open either along the tall edge either to the left or right, or open on a hinge on the top where the bottom opens outward a few inches. The latter would be unworkable, and if it opened hinged on the right side (from the interior) that is also unworkable. So, it’s only workable if it’s hinged on the interior left, and opens all the way to allow for this extreme angle to have a field of fire to Trump.
The angle of the AGR to Trump stage is about 45% so the only way this would work is for the window to open to maybe a 50-60%+ angle. There’s literally no evidence at all of the window being open, especially to such a sharp angle.
This image, apparently be “best evidence” available, show the window 100% closed. The white outline around the window is 100% in line with the casement frame. The white streak across the window is just a imperfection in the glass.
- In addition to us, the viewer, not seeing any actual evidence on the videos of any window opened to sufficient degree, on any video, no less than 4 or 5 cops were running/walking up and down this grassy area in front of the windows before, during, and right afterwards. At least 2 with guns drawn approached within moments after the shooting. No LEOs reacted in a way to believe windows were opened or damaged.
A few of many scenes. This officer was standing right near this location at the start of the shooting. He would have observed a opened window.
- There is simply NO SHOOTING LANE.
4A: There’s a 6’ fence. So a shooter would have to be at the top 1/2 of the window. So, while possible to overcome THIS obstacle, we’re adding layers upon layers of complexity. So he’s also got to navigate getting on/off a TALL table or bench, as well as everything else. And why is there a 8’ table/bench in this particular room?? What would be the explanation for an 8’ tall table in the room?
4B: Yet another layer of complexity. Window 3 cannot reliable see Trump.
We can see from the guy’s video that was shot, Coopenhagen I think, we simply can barely see the 3rd window. There simply IS NO SHOOTING SOLUTION. At best one might be able to weave a bullet between the heads of spectators and hope they don’t put up a sign, raise their hands to cheer, etc. No pro would pick that. The stands appear to be rising in height and crowd height to our right, making the other windows out of expected view. There are literally people standing in the way.
Simply repeating that does not explain or elaborate the logistics of opening and firing and losing undetected. Witnesses were right there, and would have seen or got it on video. How fast, best case, could it be flung open, aim taken, firing, and closing? At least 10 seconds. Minimum. And that’s probably implausible.
So, to summarize and put to rest the window theory.
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No windows were broken or fired thru. We have ample evidence.
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A window would have to been able to be opened probably about 1/2 way and in the correct angle direction (not fixed, not hinged on the east, not hinged on top, but hinged on the west):
Yet we are led to believe they were not able to be open. Someone apparently confirmed these windows do not open.
Here’s an example of one of the 2nd floor windows wide open. This is what it would look like. Totally obvious. There would be no dispute. This is wide open.
3. Said window would need to be opened wide and for a period of time sufficient to aim and take shots, then closed without observation. Minimum of 10 seconds with a partner and best possible case, to fling a window open when a shooter is in position, fire, then close it. Yet several police immediately there and there immediately before, during, and after, and witnesses, and videos, saw/captured no open windows.
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Shooter needed to be on a elevated table or bench platform, to shoot over the fence, yet another obstacle.
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Shooter needed to shoot thru a crowd of people standing on tall bleechers. Not gonna happen. There is no visibility from these windows as we can see from a shooting victims’ perspective.
