Audio Analysis Is Most Consistent Two Shooters At Trump Rally

I have no idea what that chart is showing. 50 yds drop 17.8 inches (Pos number), and then 75 yds drop 24.7 inches (pos)??? Is this implying there’s a 7" difference between 50 yds and 75 yds? if so, this chart is 125% junk.

Nope. That’s the spot. I staked the podium location again and lined it up with window 3 as I stood at the fence.

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Oh, how you disappoint me, @howdoiknowthisinfo. This is the last drone footage that I shot this morning because the guards were chasing my drone and I was afraid they had a way to disable it (shotgun). I was shooting the high roof again and discovered a ladder stashed up there. I went back and looked at my original video of this rooftop taken right after the event, and it was there then as well and no one spotted it. You’re fired!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmJKVFq568Q

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The north barn snipers were aimed at the woods, pretty sure. No way would anyone dare call that a one in a million shot or a 400 yard shot even if they did hit Crooks.

It wasn’t recoil. The north barn snipers said they jumped because they thought shots were being fired at them.

They may have put that up there after the rally though. For FBI people to be up there and do their thing when researching Crooks’ movements. The ladder looks new and it doesn’t look tall enough to reach the highest roof unless it was pulled up to the roof next to it first.

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Even better resolution! thanks,
Phase

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@phecksel picture a ballistic arc. You sight the rifle in with the muzzle tilted slightly upward from horizontal, such that the bullet hits its apex at 300 yards. Therefore, the bullet is rising until it gets to 300 yards, and then it begins to drop.

Trust me, i understand ballistics.

There is no way there’s a 7" difference in POI between 50 & 75 yds. Chart is junk

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Oh, sorry. I didn’t mean to talk down to you. I just assumed the numbers were so bad because it was a subsonic round.

@howdoiknowthisinfo, would you please cite the source for the chart?

Normally you do not zero to the top of the arc. A 50/200 or 36/300 zero, the first number is when it crosses the line of sight on the way up and the 2nd number is when it crosses on the way down.

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Are there windows at the back of the rear two-story building that allow access to the roof of the building behind?

Thank you for going to a fair amount of risk to get those!

That whitish thing in the lower left corner of the middle window looks like it might be a crank to open it.

Note the wall just to the right of the middle window. The vent that we’re interested in wouldn’t be above the ceiling in that room - although it could be in a closet attached to that room. It could be above the room with the second window, or above a closet attached to that room. Judging by the doors we saw inside that building, those would be the main possibilities.

I don’t know much about that kind of security tape on the windows. The tape on the 2nd window looks like it has brighter and dimmer patches. I don’t know if that means it’s not functional anymore or if the tape in some sections is just not adhered to the glass as well.

Last, do you see the arm of a person in the still shot of window 3? There’s a storage rack of some sort and a person is reaching for something in a drawer or bin. Doesn’t look to be too far from the window, but of course stuff can be moved around…

True enough, but I don’t see any reason the Washington county sniper would be trying to deny his team took the shot if they did it. All the snipers will have been interviewed by now, and the congressional committees will interview people under oath if they have not given satisfactory answers under oath to the FBI.

But is could be broken earlier. :frowning:

it is the output of the gebc library (GNU Exterior Ballistics Computer - Browse /GNU Ballistics - Source/Version 1.07 at SourceForge.net):

note that this is a 180 grain G7-bullet with ballistic coefficient 0.48 (cfr. https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.300+Winchester+Magnum.html)

for the 3130 muzzle velocity:

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and for the 1100 muzzle velocity:

I am not married to any of these formulae or libraries.

when using another library (GNU Ballistics Library - Browse /GNU Ballistics Library at SourceForge.net), we get the following values for the subsonic round:
range: 50 yd vertical drop: 16.90 in, -32.18 MOA time of flight: 0.14 s windage: 0.07 in, 238.92 MOA velocity: 1098.36 fps (horizontal: 1098.31 fps, vertical: 8.97 fps)
range: 75 yd vertical drop: 23.37 in, -29.69 MOA time of flight: 0.21 s windage: 0.09 in, 293.35 MOA velocity: 1097.55 fps (horizontal: 1097.52 fps, vertical: 6.77 fps)
range: 100 yd vertical drop: 28.03 in, -26.72 MOA time of flight: 0.27 s windage: 0.11 in, 368.27 MOA velocity: 1096.75 fps (horizontal: 1096.73 fps, vertical: 4.57 fps)
range: 125 yd vertical drop: 30.88 in, -23.56 MOA time of flight: 0.34 s windage: 0.14 in, 463.30 MOA velocity: 1095.95 fps (horizontal: 1095.95 fps, vertical: 2.36 fps)
range: 150 yd vertical drop: 31.93 in, -20.31 MOA time of flight: 0.41 s windage: 0.17 in, 577.82 MOA velocity: 1095.17 fps (horizontal: 1095.16 fps, vertical: 0.16 fps)
range: 175 yd vertical drop: 31.17 in, -16.99 MOA time of flight: 0.48 s windage: 0.21 in, 710.95 MOA velocity: 1094.39 fps (horizontal: 1094.38 fps, vertical: -2.05 fps)
range: 200 yd vertical drop: 28.59 in, -13.64 MOA time of flight: 0.55 s windage: 0.26 in, 861.40 MOA velocity: 1093.61 fps (horizontal: 1093.60 fps, vertical: -4.25 fps)
range: 225 yd vertical drop: 24.19 in, -10.26 MOA time of flight: 0.62 s windage: 0.31 in, 1027.44 MOA velocity: 1092.85 fps (horizontal: 1092.83 fps, vertical: -6.46 fps)
range: 250 yd vertical drop: 17.97 in, -6.86 MOA time of flight: 0.69 s windage: 0.37 in, 1206.89 MOA velocity: 1092.09 fps (horizontal: 1092.05 fps, vertical: -8.66 fps)
range: 275 yd vertical drop: 9.93 in, -3.45 MOA time of flight: 0.75 s windage: 0.43 in, 1397.13 MOA velocity: 1091.34 fps (horizontal: 1091.28 fps, vertical: -10.87 fps)
range: 300 yd vertical drop: 0.07 in, -0.02 MOA time of flight: 0.82 s windage: 0.50 in, 1595.18 MOA velocity: 1090.60 fps (horizontal: 1090.51 fps, vertical: -13.07 fps)
range: 325 yd vertical drop: -11.62 in, 3.41 MOA time of flight: 0.89 s windage: 0.58 in, 1797.85 MOA velocity: 1089.86 fps (horizontal: 1089.75 fps, vertical: -15.28 fps)
range: 350 yd vertical drop: -25.14 in, 6.86 MOA time of flight: 0.96 s windage: 0.66 in, 2001.94 MOA velocity: 1089.13 fps (horizontal: 1088.98 fps, vertical: -17.48 fps)
range: 375 yd vertical drop: -40.49 in, 10.31 MOA time of flight: 1.03 s windage: 0.75 in, 2204.39 MOA velocity: 1088.40 fps (horizontal: 1088.22 fps, vertical: -19.69 fps)
range: 400 yd vertical drop: -57.67 in, 13.76 MOA time of flight: 1.10 s windage: 0.84 in, 2402.46 MOA velocity: 1087.69 fps (horizontal: 1087.46 fps, vertical: -21.89 fps)
range: 425 yd vertical drop: -76.69 in, 17.23 MOA time of flight: 1.17 s windage: 0.94 in, 2593.88 MOA velocity: 1086.98 fps (horizontal: 1086.71 fps, vertical: -24.10 fps)
range: 450 yd vertical drop: -97.55 in, 20.70 MOA time of flight: 1.24 s windage: 1.05 in, 2776.90 MOA velocity: 1086.28 fps (horizontal: 1085.95 fps, vertical: -26.30 fps)
range: 475 yd vertical drop: -120.25 in, 24.17 MOA time of flight: 1.31 s windage: 1.16 in, 2950.27 MOA velocity: 1085.58 fps (horizontal: 1085.20 fps, vertical: -28.51 fps)
range: 500 yd vertical drop: -144.80 in, 27.65 MOA time of flight: 1.37 s windage: 1.27 in, 3113.25 MOA velocity: 1084.89 fps (horizontal: 1084.45 fps, vertical: -30.71 fps)
range: 525 yd vertical drop: -171.19 in, 31.13 MOA time of flight: 1.44 s windage: 1.40 in, 3265.52 MOA velocity: 1084.21 fps (horizontal: 1083.71 fps, vertical: -32.92 fps)
range: 550 yd vertical drop: -199.42 in, 34.62 MOA time of flight: 1.51 s windage: 1.53 in, 3407.07 MOA velocity: 1083.53 fps (horizontal: 1082.96 fps, vertical: -35.12 fps)
range: 575 yd vertical drop: -229.51 in, 38.11 MOA time of flight: 1.58 s windage: 1.66 in, 3538.16 MOA velocity: 1082.87 fps (horizontal: 1082.22 fps, vertical: -37.33 fps)
range: 600 yd vertical drop: -261.45 in, 41.60 MOA time of flight: 1.65 s windage: 1.80 in, 3659.25 MOA velocity: 1082.20 fps (horizontal: 1081.48 fps, vertical: -39.53 fps)
range: 625 yd vertical drop: -295.24 in, 45.10 MOA time of flight: 1.72 s windage: 1.95 in, 3770.87 MOA velocity: 1081.55 fps (horizontal: 1080.74 fps, vertical: -41.74 fps)
range: 650 yd vertical drop: -330.89 in, 48.61 MOA time of flight: 1.79 s windage: 2.10 in, 3873.64 MOA velocity: 1080.90 fps (horizontal: 1080.00 fps, vertical: -43.94 fps)
range: 675 yd vertical drop: -368.39 in, 52.11 MOA time of flight: 1.86 s windage: 2.26 in, 3968.21 MOA velocity: 1080.26 fps (horizontal: 1079.27 fps, vertical: -46.15 fps)
range: 700 yd vertical drop: -408.03 in, 55.65 MOA time of flight: 1.93 s windage: 2.43 in, 4055.78 MOA velocity: 1079.62 fps (horizontal: 1078.53 fps, vertical: -48.37 fps)
range: 725 yd vertical drop: -449.27 in, 59.16 MOA time of flight: 2.00 s windage: 2.60 in, 4135.82 MOA velocity: 1079.00 fps (horizontal: 1077.81 fps, vertical: -50.57 fps)
range: 750 yd vertical drop: -492.37 in, 62.68 MOA time of flight: 2.07 s windage: 2.77 in, 4209.51 MOA velocity: 1078.37 fps (horizontal: 1077.08 fps, vertical: -52.78 fps)
range: 775 yd vertical drop: -537.33 in, 66.20 MOA time of flight: 2.14 s windage: 2.95 in, 4277.42 MOA velocity: 1077.76 fps (horizontal: 1076.35 fps, vertical: -54.98 fps)
range: 800 yd vertical drop: -584.17 in, 69.72 MOA time of flight: 2.21 s windage: 3.14 in, 4340.06 MOA velocity: 1077.15 fps (horizontal: 1075.63 fps, vertical: -57.19 fps)
range: 825 yd vertical drop: -633.20 in, 73.27 MOA time of flight: 2.28 s windage: 3.33 in, 4398.27 MOA velocity: 1076.55 fps (horizontal: 1074.90 fps, vertical: -59.40 fps)
range: 850 yd vertical drop: -683.79 in, 76.80 MOA time of flight: 2.35 s windage: 3.53 in, 4451.71 MOA velocity: 1075.95 fps (horizontal: 1074.18 fps, vertical: -61.61 fps)
range: 875 yd vertical drop: -736.25 in, 80.33 MOA time of flight: 2.42 s windage: 3.74 in, 4501.18 MOA velocity: 1075.37 fps (horizontal: 1073.47 fps, vertical: -63.81 fps)
range: 900 yd vertical drop: -790.58 in, 83.86 MOA time of flight: 2.49 s windage: 3.95 in, 4547.03 MOA velocity: 1074.78 fps (horizontal: 1072.75 fps, vertical: -66.02 fps)
range: 925 yd vertical drop: -847.17 in, 87.43 MOA time of flight: 2.56 s windage: 4.16 in, 4589.86 MOA velocity: 1074.21 fps (horizontal: 1072.03 fps, vertical: -68.24 fps)
range: 950 yd vertical drop: -905.26 in, 90.97 MOA time of flight: 2.63 s windage: 4.39 in, 4629.39 MOA velocity: 1073.64 fps (horizontal: 1071.32 fps, vertical: -70.44 fps)
range: 975 yd vertical drop: -965.24 in, 94.51 MOA time of flight: 2.70 s windage: 4.61 in, 4666.17 MOA velocity: 1073.08 fps (horizontal: 1070.61 fps, vertical: -72.64 fps)
range: 1000 yd vertical drop: -1027.51 in, 98.08 MOA time of flight: 2.77 s windage: 4.85 in, 4700.66 MOA velocity: 1072.52 fps (horizontal: 1069.90 fps, vertical: -74.86 fps)

they all have to stick with the official report.
look at the testimony of the sniper (I do not recall his name) where he was asked how many rounds were shot, and he replied that the report states that 8 shell casings were found on the roof…

they do not answer questions but refer to the reports to stay out of trouble…

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What I can see on footage, they were surprised at the first shot and got scared.

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When I was analyzing the videos for holes in the fence, I came across this photo which made me excited. But unfortunately, it did not line up with window 3.

Maybe if you have time, just out of curiosity make a picture of this part of the fence too?

Then I found the small snippets on the fence that seemed to be in line with the shot from window 3. If this turns out to be the case, please do the following:

  1. Take a zoomed-in picture to see how fresh the snippets are
  2. A normal zoomed-up picture for our general information
  3. One backed up so much that we can see which part of the fence was snipped, maybe so far back that we can see both trees.

Stay safe! Good luck!

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Good points. And for info, I’ve already asked nicely for some information from AGR but have not received a reply to date. I will alert you IF I do.

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i think this is the key Counter Sniper location.

However

  1. hasnt it already been discounted that Shot 10 came from here - by local ESU - as they confirmed that they took shots at “the person on the roof” ?

  2. And such shots from that distance away to the Alleged Shooter by Washington ESU, with those ESU Counter Sniper weapons, would have destroyed the structure of the head - partially if not totally depending upon the Weapon.

To counter ALL of this, the Autopsy Report *1 confirms direction of fatal shot (e.g. hitting left mouth area and exit out of right ear) **2 when Shooter had turned head after Shot 9 which may then confirm Shot 10 was then a straight shot from ESU staff too.

Sources
** 2 Ref Clay Higgins Preliminary Report.

*1 Autopsy Report will NOT be released confirm County Coroners Office.