What does a county being Republican or Democrat have anything to do with the police departments? Both counties had officers there. Do you have anything to go off of to suggest we need to now learn the officers political affiliations? I don’t get these weird conspiracies, how does this help us solve the bigger picture?
I never know where to put things.
https://x.com/robbystarbuck/status/1823061399322468691
So the guy who tried to assassinate Trump was training at the same range as DHS and even was there within the same day as a DHS training session. Why are we just finding out about this?
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In video BWC2-122104, at 18:12:03, is that camo officer standing in the open field area the one who actually stopped Crooks?
Have you seen the footage from “AdudeUknow” on X, before getting suspended after showing video of “?suspect?” crossing several roof tops?? Supposedly seen via dash cam, BWC2-122111, it didn’t look unintentional…
I have a low quality screen shot…
Source now suspended off X.
The footage looked to be taken as Boost-me cop was meeting with the other patrol car, seen in in this footage, moments away from them driving to bldng#6
This footage has some pixel-weirdnesss to it… Apparently taken from the north side of bushes, North-west of tower…
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There’s an entire video on it.
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You might have the right guy. Here are views of the ESU who fired shot 9 from the AGR 6 perspective.
This was my first assessment:
Then I saw this post and confirmed it:
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It is kind of odd that we haven’t heard from the guy who shot Crooks. Seems that would be an interview some journalist would want to do. I hope he is okay.
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True.
However, once a week for nearly a year?! With AR15 ammo being about .50 cents per round… E.G. 100 rounds is a reasonable amount to fire per session and costs $50. 43 sessions would run him over $2100 as a reasonable basic ammo training cost. Could easily be 5-10x that if he were really hard core on training. The guy worked at some basic job, I think in a nursing home or something. Who was paying for his ammo? Dad? Perhaps he was tapping into dad’s ammo stash? Perhaps something more sinister.
I have several hobbies/passions and earn a good living. I could spend that today, but I would not have been able to spend that at age 20. I think his time and ammo costs need some further development because that’s quite a lot for a typical 20 year old, time and money invested. Thinking about my most active periods in my most expensive time/money hobbies, I don’t think I’ve ever gone 43 times for anything in a year! Except the gym which is a flat membership fee and no extras. It’s an odd level of compelling and costly dedication.
Having said that I have a friend who has a passion for shooting and has shot hundreds of thousands of rounds and he shoots probably almost weekly. But he also has a lot of guns, a large income, and has been doing so for decades.
So true, shooting a lot is not itself a sign of anything really. Even with Feds training there. Not uncommon. But having a Trump rally in your home town, remarkable abilities to exploit huge glaring security vulnerabilities (that would not be known to the public), bombs at home and in the van, drones, range finder… And being killed trying to assassinate Trump. That overall picture looks pretty bad… Like, yes, he had some foreknowledge, expert help (bombs? A van registered in Arizona? Etc.), aware of an able to exploit the rooftop security lapse while also going unmolested for hours on the grounds and 10-20 minutes on the roof?
Agreed, it is a bit unusual, going to the range every week since August, that’s not a hobby that’s an expensive obsession and training regiment for a 20 year old with a basic job. I’m a gun guy and that’s a lot of shooting unless you’re training for something specific. I’ve gone extremely long periods without going to the range and again I’d consider shooting as an important hobby to me.
True, they do have to train somewhere. But this is admittedly another piece of this odd puzzle. We do need some CCTV or witnesses…
Agreed, 3 casings magically appear and I’m inclined to believe they were planted. The first count was five (not 3, not 4, not 6, not 7, not 8, but FIVE) to Crooks’ forward right. This could be an ejection pattern and/or Crooks was sliding down a few feet off the roof to lower his profile and escape when he was beaned. Then after IIRC 12 minutes of non-recorded body cam, we get someone else pointing out THREE more casings over to Crooks left side or somewhere that I would not expect. And this was after a new LEO arrives on the rooftop.
We’d need a good explanation where those casings were found and why they appear to be in a location I would not expect an AR to pattern. I’ve fired ARs for 2+ decades including yesterday and they pattern to the right, forward, laterally, or behind depending on the individual AR. A RH AR won’t pattern to the left ever, it’s implausible to the degree of impossible.
Agreed we see Crooks prone in a video during the first shot, in which he has no movement from recoil, not even a hair ripple. I don’t see that as plausible. I would expect some, even tiny, recoil involuntary movement and re-adjustment to regain sight picture. Yet we observe no movement at all. I do not think that’s possible, although I’ll leave <1% for video not picking it up. We later see Crooks after shot 8, and he’s in the same general position, meaning he isn’t kneeling, has not really changed his location etc. So the different sounds cannot be explained by a materially different location or stance.
Agreed. Here we have this guy training every week since August, at a range where the Feds also train, and he just gets extremely lucky to exploit the huge gaps in security at a Trump rally that just happens to be an hour from home. What a remarkable lucky break for him!
How about the bombs, the van, the drone… Lots to look into.
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It is an odd conversation, summarized as:
- Cruiser LEO monitors everyones location
- Cruiser LEO hints/suggests other LEO to turn off his bodycamera the implication is they need to have a secretive discussion.
- Cruiser LEO repeatedly asks him if he was in the bathroom, thinks he was in the bathroom, etc.
It is a very very odd course of dialogue, suggesting a surreptitious and nefarious nature to it. I struggle to come up with a valid non-suspicious course for that dialogue.
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Why don’t you do the calculations and see what you come up with. The way I understand it is that even though these calculations cannot be 100% accurate it would be impossible for that shot to have been fired by the snipers on the roof just because the report would have taken longer after the sonic crack than it did.
https://x.com/in2thinair/status/1821910473052242401?s=46
Things like this and others not listed here get people asking questions
@cmartenson regarding the mysterious rifle handoff you referenced in today’s excellent video.
This below needed editing and this edit is on 8/14. In post analysis it was NOT a rifle handoff, but a halligan type entry tool that can easily be recognized on close inspection. What I wrote below about the rifle, is now known incorrect. However that handoff is still shady AF.
Original post below:
The weird rifle handoff has only 1 of a few plausible explanations, but looks shady AF. The only legit explanation I can conjure is the alleged injured operator had to leave his rifle in someone’s custody while he was getting treated or left to get treated, although we never do see him enter or exit the building. One might presume the uniformed officer was on radio to higher authority about his securing the rifle and handing it off to the camo operator guy, but that handoff is very odd. I think that is the most likely scenario, but rather odd. The other explanations are nefarious.
Note, I looked but did NOT see any blood smears or drips on that polished cream colored floor when the medics arrived. Note, I’ve recently had minor cuts on fingers and toes and left a trail of blood drops thru my house. A cut on the hand, especially one that bleeds enough to create a mess in a bathroom sufficient to raise the alarms and warrant several stitches, would almost surely leave a trail of blood drops unless wrapped fully, which is possible. But where is the blood trail?
I find it ultra bizarre that 4 weeks in we don’t have information about this alleged injured cop and the stories we have been given are debunked.
Could be the actual professional assassin’s blood, injured from cutting himself as he hastily crawled out of his prone shooting position above the acoustic ceiling tiles, resting on some metal platform up there for hours, scurrying down to not be caught, cutting himself… That would be a good reason to not reveal his identity or injury now 4 weeks later… and why we never see him enter or leave to get treatment thru the most obvious parking lot doors where the medics are and where an ambulance could be waiting…
We could compile videos of those on the other side, the west side of the AGR#6 to eliminate people coming/going from that door. There is also the interior hallway that presumably joins the buildings. I was trying to see an obvious pathway during the medics arrival, joining those two buildings but could not see one.
We also saw a lot more people enter AGR6 than seemingly leave. I have not counted each person but it seems that there should be more people inside than we can account for in the videos, unless they are hiding in a room or they went to the adjacent buildings thru interior passages.
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There is some wiggle room for Greg Nicol, imo, but not much. I agree with your deduction that GN would be the ESU sniper without the access card, assuming that story is true in the first place. The gap between the shots and his exiting the building could be explained by GN, having returned to the window after having been let in, awaited for SS to exfiltrate Trump safely and then lingered to potentially stop any further gunman or mass shooting.
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I’d be curious if Nicols actually said “access card,” or physical key. I haven’t studied what he said and it may have been lost in translation aka telephone game. I haven’t studied the building either but the few doors I have seen did not appear to have an access card, but instead old fashioned key type locks with big interior horizontal bars to open from inside.
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My understanding is that David Dutch received two shots, to liver and chest - thankfully he is out of hospital. James Copenhaver was shot in the arm and abdomen - also out of hospital.
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Thank You for thé Prayers.
I’m by Far not the Worst condition in the Chemotherapy Ward. But I’m still going for Treatments in the Chemotherapy Ward.
My Health has been Terrible since the Pfizer Vaccinations. Sudden onset Chronic Fatigue, Migraines, Inflammation, etc. I was an Healthy Australian Army Sergeant, BlackHawk Crew Chief. I retired 2015. 2020s have Sucked. To the point of having a Kidney removed and Bladder Cancer Treatments and Surgery.
Sorry to Vent, but once you start listing some Crappy Medical Life Évents, where does it Stop?
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Don’t stop. Vent. You are allowed here. I am so sorry this was DONE to you.
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However, once a week for nearly a year?! With AR15 ammo being about .50 cents per round… E.G. 100 rounds is a reasonable amount to fire per session and costs $50. 43 sessions would run him over $2100 as a reasonable basic ammo training cost. Could easily be 5-10x that if he were really hard core on training. The guy worked at some basic job, I think in a nursing home or something. Who was paying for his ammo? Dad? Perhaps he was tapping into dad’s ammo stash? Perhaps something more sinister.
Dude kids will spent $2000 on a gaming PC, $100 on a mouse, $100 on a keyboard, $250 for a headset, $70 for a video game, etc.
And I’m supposed to believe a person hell-bent on assassinating someone will be hindered by this?
Is a pile of debt a big deterrent for someone looking to go out in a blaze of glory?
What do you think he needs to “fund” that hobby and practice from August to July? Maybe $5000 at the absolute maximum? You don’t think he could get approved for a credit card and max it out?
What level of debt do you think is a deterrent for someone looking to do something this awful? Do you think if he was $10k in debt that he would’ve gone “fuck man what am I doing? I can’t leave all this debt behind”
It’s an odd level of compelling and costly dedication.
Sure, but he lived with his parents. It’s really not that expensive. If people are passionate about something, they’ll find a way.
Having said that I have a friend who has a passion for shooting and has shot hundreds of thousands of rounds and he shoots probably almost weekly. But he also has a lot of guns, a large income, and has been doing so for decades.
If you want to be convinced that debt will stop someone looking to die, then that’s on you. Also I’m not sure if you’re aware, but there are ammo sales all the time on the internet. He could’ve easily bought a bulk amount of 223 ammo, like 500 rounds for $200-300. He used his dad’s cheap 10 year old AR-15. This money thing isn’t really convincing me of anything other than this guy might have gone into debt over it.
So true, shooting a lot is not itself a sign of anything really. Even with Feds training there. Not uncommon. But having a Trump rally in your home town, remarkable abilities to exploit huge glaring security vulnerabilities (that would not be known to the public), bombs at home and in the van, drones, range finder… And being killed trying to assassinate Trump. That overall picture looks pretty bad… Like, yes, he had some foreknowledge, expert help (bombs? A van registered in Arizona? Etc.), aware of an able to exploit the rooftop security lapse while also going unmolested for hours on the grounds and 10-20 minutes on the roof?
Cool, I’d still like to just know more than to have the information of “omg they went to the same shooting range!!!”. Yeah I get it, as I’ve explained, if a place has very few shooting ranges, that will happen. If there is a really good range in that city/town, people will drive out of their way to go there. I’d just like to see something, CCTV footage, eyewitness, something other than “they went to shoot at the same range”. Right now that doesn’t prove anything to me at all.
Here’s photos of cops injured hand. Also link to video showing him getting injured when climbing over chain link fence:
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