Pardons, Propaganda and Power Plays

Pre-emptive, blanket pardons are obviously unjust and possibly illegal, and Trump is clearly still an *sshole, shit-talking from day one, but I think we gotta remember to celebrate today. Seriously.

More good stuff has happened this day than I can even take in.
*peaceful transfer of power, no violence of any kind
*Trump avoided a real bullet and America dodged the bullet of getting Harris in office
*Trump effect means common sense is coming back
*he’s assembled a kick ass team on what Bret Weinstein calls the Trump ‘pirate ship’; a bunch of people with Trump’s love of common sense and more decorum than him!
*I’m not a fan of government of by EO, but the slew of overwhelming common sense rolling down…J6ers pardoned, withdrawing us from WHO, closing the border

Suggestion to Chris Martenson: it would be interesting to hear a scouting report going over all the EOs issued on the first day; just naming the less consequential ones but spending some time unpacking the more consequential ones. Would make a great 1 hour scouting report.

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@thatchmo, saw a very nice picture of Bobby (in a tux) and Cheryl Hines at the inauguration. He was there!

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Good news, thanks. I really couldn’t fathom him not being in attendance. Onward Patriots!

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I am of two minds with Trump.

Some good things will come: end of censorship, close the border, end the DEI and trans nonsense, more energy.

But I’m super concerned about “expanding our territory”, biometric id systems (soon-to-be vax passports, within 10 min of the next admin), friendship with Bill Gates, etc. And as much as the border was a disaster, a nationwide dragnet could really turn nasty fast.

According to Robert Malone, RFK may already be neutralized, just like Trump was on his first term. Inauguration Day Random Mindwalk I fear Big Pharma is going to get away scott free, to continue to murder our families.

And as Ed Dowd says, the fiscal crisis is inevitable - esp since “Joe Biden” and Yellen spent all the f*cking money. How is this not treason?

Also, El Gato Malo chimes in on the pardons: unpardonable pardons - by el gato malo - bad cattitude Why is this cat not president?

Putin should have detonated the Poseidon device while he had the targets in site.

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I wonder how many other U.S. Presidents didn’t place their hand on the Bible when they were sworn in?

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In deference to the Zionists?

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Per the 2014 date this tweet was very curious and would be the crumbs i would start to follow.

Im really starting to wonder how deep this all goes . Not to get overly conspiratorial but it seems like there has to be some sort of globalist stuff going on here and maybe even some death cult stuff. There is just too many layers to this of legit stuff.

https://x.com/WorldHallOfFun/status/1881375209468641501?t=Z6EaGD3_Nco-fGJeEkc1lQ&s=19

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Don’t know what in hell was going on there.

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That would make for a great episode a breakdown of all the eos

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Maybe so

To add a but more … this 2014 rabbit hole goes deep , is crack head hunter actually cia or something? This thread by Kenosha goes deep . Its so messed up i hope chris does a whole episode on this thread its wild .
https://x.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1621002493122744323?t=92aYqz8xAhotNjMwe-zllA&s=19

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We will see. 4 years is very short time in these matters. Afterall JFK started Apollo program around 1960 (Sputnik event was 1957) and it took whole decade to land on moon, long after JFK was dead. At least JFK was very public proponent of that program which helped it to continue, giving face to it.

Ah good spot, didnt think that option. Aint VP usually in that role so I didnt think as Michelle doesnt have formal role like that. “Designated survivor” applies as lots of key people attend key events like this, for optics, which puts them at risk (wasnt VP there too). So it must be “outsider”.

Biden is making the assertion that the people he is pardoning did nothing wrong. He is preemptively pardoning them because they would be unjustly prosecuted if he didn’t. He’s saying that he fears the Trump administration will do to them what his administration did to Trump and his associates.

Confessions aren’t appropriate for Trump and associates, therefore they wouldn’t be for the Binden associates.

State prosecutions are what Biden used against Trump.

That’s why making them testify under oath is the only viable pathway.

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Was the Pardon clause really for the purpose its been used by O’bidEn??

Punctuation matters… Paragraphs are containers…

Article 2 sec.2 is about the Presidents role as Commander in Chief over armed forces "when called into actual service of the United States; ".
Note the punctuation [ ; ] . Each sentence that follows applies to that before and seems to apply to potential circumstances, such as Opinions, Duties of Department and apparently matters of punishment in the context of those duties of officers duties… That is the context of pardon powers, Not To Usurp the Justice System’s role…

Was the US constitution really written in such as way that it take a Constitutional scholar or a lawyer to figure out???

I’d say that such an approach would render it ineffective at reaching the people it was written to manage…

The issue of “punctuation matters”, and erroneous reading of the Constitution, is also seen in Article 1 Sec.2, last paragraph.

Impeachment power of the House is ONLY for the officers that they chuse.

They do not chuse the president so why do they think that this section gives them power to impeach him?

I suspect there are other provisions elsewhere, but i present that as an example of “punctuation matters”.

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The effort to destroy America’s Popular Governance is a 200 year old conspiracy of such an extent that it motivated the creation of the Monroe Doctrine.

[The Enemy Within! Jesuits, Freemasons, The Black Pope]

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I don’t think it’s a good idea to delay the prosecutions. This is a common tactic of communists/criminals to avoid justice. “Let’s look to the future first, not the past, we can get back to this later.”. Then, after a few months have passed, “this is ancient history now, it’s too late to seek justice now, let’s focus on the future”. Then those people become a perpetual ruling class on the back of their ill gotten gains. This has happened in many former communist countries, with former communist party officials/communist secret service agents stealing state-owned assets in corrupt privatizations, or seizing secret service files for blackmail purposes, and becoming a shadow, de facto, underground governing class / ruling oligarchy, parallel to, above, and controlling formal government structures. Because no one held them to account.

If Trump allows these people to escape justice yet again - like he failed to imprison Hillary during his first term - they will come back to bite him, and they will come back to bite the rest of us, when Trump loses power again. This may be 4 years from now, or it may be sooner. They could assassinate him, they could take over the House or the Senate in 2 years’ time … they could do something else none of us can even think of.

The best time to cut off the head of the snake is now. There is no time like now.

While they should certainly also be prosecuted in State courts where appropriate, the crimes committed - illegal bioweapons development, genocide, crimes against humanity - are not ones that can or should be relegated to mere local jurisdictions for prosecution. They are federal and international crimes, and they should be pursued in federal and international courts. The head of state of one country - even the President of the United States - does not have the power to absolve anyone of responsibility for participating in a genocide which resulted in tens of millions of deaths across the globe.

I’m not a constitutional scholar, but I am sure there are things in the Constitution which limit the power of Presidential pardons. The pre-amble itself says “We the People of the United States … establish Justice … promote the general Welfare” It is not Justice to elevate certain people above the law (for this is what a blanket “pardon” is - it is not a pardon, for a specific criminal act of which one has been convicted and has expressed remorse for - it is the suspension of the rule of law in respect of one or more people) and it is not in the interest of general Welfare. Such blanket pardons may also fall foul of the Faithful Execution Clause (Article Two, Section 3: “… he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed …”). If the concept of blanket pre-emptive pardons were to hold water, the President could pre-emptively pardon everyone for all crimes committed, in the past, present or in the future, forever, the minute he takes office. That would plainly run contrary to his duty to faithfully execute the law, in fact it would totally subvert the law. So where does the line lie? I say pre-emptively pardoning people in the way Biden has done lies on the wrong side of this line.

Maybe someone can also explain to me how Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution applies in this situation: “The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.” Does that mean the Congress can declare a punishment for someone it deems to be a Traitor?

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In response to my own post yesterday, the US withdrawal from WHO is most certainly “Thumbs up Trump” and not Thumbs down Chump. APPROVED!!! :smiley: Wish Switzerland would do the same. Sigh.

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Chris, based on statements in your video, you imply that the ongoing internet censorship is an outcome of the Biden administration. At least, this is the only administration you mentioned. The censorship has been ongoing for a long time, easily over twenty years (even much longer) and cuts across the George W., Obama and Trump 1 administrations. It is clear to me that you encountered internet censorship late in the game—I do remember your surprise during the pandemic. I woke up to it in the 20-oughts. Given the long track record for this kind of thing, I would be surprised if free speech genuinely returns during the Trump 2 administration, but would not object to being pleasantly surprised. However, if there is a broad backing off on censorship on familiar platforms, I suspect it is happening mainly because the people pulling the strings in the halls of power have found other means of controlling the narrative, a concerning thought.

And, switching gears, there are other elections that were disputed outside of 2020—I find it disingenuous to just focus on this one. Two key examples were Bush/Cheney in 2000 and 2004. Indeed, climbing down this rabbit hole reveals that election fraud is probably a long-standing phenomenon (tradition?) in so-called democratic nations.

Overall, I think there is too much focus in your summary on making the Biden Admin look bad. Fair enough, as many bad things went down over the past four year, but the short-term framing of things is also myopic. It does not look back over longer swaths of time and explore the long-term, creeping nature of things like censorship, election fraud and government cover-ups. Trust no one involved in government, especially those in the most senior positions, monitor what they do and speak out when you have a concern. This is something that was actively encouraged by the Founding Fathers—they considered it critical to a properly functioning freedom-supporting democracy. The Nuremburg trials were conducted in part to show the German people the same thing, that there is a responsibility to question your leadership in a parliamentary democracy and step up if things get out of line. Ultimately, this means it is necessary to keep as critical an eye on the new person in office as much as the one who has departed.

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Found them.
Her is the source for the text of the executive orders.

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I understand, but what you’re trying to do is “design” the pardon system to be able to withstand corruption of other systems (e.g. weaponization of DOJ). This can’t possibly work. Imagine designing every system and law trying to compensate for the breakdown of other laws and systems. Pandemonium.

The pardon system needs to be self-contained, and assuming that other laws and systems operate as intended. Under that assumption, I think my suggestion is reasonable.

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