Pardons, Propaganda and Power Plays

Thank you so much for this link. Finally, a rational discussion about China.

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The wall is largely ineffective. I’ve seen videos of people easily scaling it in seconds. The wall is great but they need administrative policies to go along with it, which it seems they are now implementing.

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The whole ordeal sounded so third world! I would be more angry than sad, this is sad:

I hope Trump does something about ^ this!

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If the wall were ineffective, the “Biden” admin wouldn’t have worked so hard to get rid of it.

The wall is a selection process. For the most part, women and children cannot “scale the wall in seconds”, and there are a ton of men who can’t do this either.

My guess: the wall alone probably reduces the invaders by 90%. It probably also reduces the amount of “goodies” they can all bring too, so it makes it much more expensive for the cartels to smuggle in their “fentanyl”.

Barriers matter.

Example: “oh I saw Bruce Lee kick the ass of some guy armed with a baton so batons are useless” - well, most people aren’t Bruce Lee, so cops are wise to use batons. Mostly it works. Same concept.

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Walls are just one tool used to secure a country’s border. There is a system known world-wide, that works with large success; each facet helps the other to work, so I agree with you in part.

I believe all the various methods (we know work if used) should be employed. Since most every American has already paid for this layered security system, shouldn’t it be used to reduce the violence happening at our southern border, reduce the senseless murders happening there, and to deter the disgusting drug trade and stop human traffickers from creating new victims daily? Or should we just resign ourselves to let this wall rot over centuries out there in limestone country?

And if you don’t have a kid with you, no one is trying to keep a family together. Single men are much easier to put into tent shelters while their asylum claims are processed.

Walls endure through administration changes too. Think how different things would be today if Congress had funded a wall back in the 80s when they were supposed to. If we had control of immigration since the 80s we likely wouldn’t have a housing shortage nor would we be discussing birthright citizenship.

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Study other countries methods of border security, especially those that include walls in their plans. I suggest to look first at China’s layered border security and their walls, most of which are just tall fences.

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And look at the walls “our greatest ally” uses!
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And if that’s what “our greatest ally” does, how come so many Zionists and Jewish people are so involved in facilitating illegal migration into the US (including opposing OUR walls)? And why do the Democrats and some Republicans fight so hard to help them and keep the invasion rolling along?

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I knew someone who struggled with addiction, as a functional addict, his entire life. He felt strongly that a wall needed built to stop the flow of drugs that were going to start wiping out our young people. He started saying this before most folks had ever heard of fentanyl. He died of leukemia his son died from a fentanyl overdose years later.

I imagine that he, a very experienced user, took something that was way outside of his expectations at some point and that the experience informed an understanding of what was to come.

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Physical security (barriers) is foundational in a good security plan. Make it a little harder to penetrate and they’ll move on to a weaker spot.

I think this is true. All y of drug and people smuggling is done in random places across the porous border. Sealing it up will slow things way down. It will also dissuade a lot of would be illegal immigrants. A huge moral benefit of that being less human trafficking and children disappearing to who knows what awful fates.

The wall is good enough in most areas to provide the required initial deterrent. There are some gaps that need to be fixed like around Yuma. And maybe they could fill in the gaps between the vertical rungs. But I see no point in extending the wall through remote desert since the remoteness is deterrent enough. Why prevent jaguars from migrating across the border?

It’s easy to scale. First the smugglers climb up, then they throw a rope ladder over that most able bodied people could climb.

I’m not really disagreeing with people here. Of course they need a physical wall, but it will be effective against those who pose the least threat to the country (families and elderly) and be the least effective as a barrier for those you don’t want in (single military aged males).

The issue is, there needs to be an effective system afterwards, once they are in the country, to deter migration. Which of course it seems like Trump is implementing. So all good. Previously, people would just scale the wall in the middle of the desert and wait for the border patrol to pick them up and give them a free ride to civilization where they would then disappear.

But there’s too much emphasis on the physical wall itself.

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I thought it was interesting that neither Fauci nor Gates sued RFK Jr over ANY of the monstrous claims he made in his book.

Chris, if you want a headstart on what these ‘honourable pardonees’ may have been up to around 2014, I can think of 3 sources that may know:- Whitney Webb, James Corbett, and Ryan Christian.

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Isn’t that the year that gain of function was banned?

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Excepting Israel and Egypt.
Tyler @ ZH

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What if Trump is just plain old senile like meat puppet Joe? Spain BRICS? USSR losses 60 million? Russia a million dead? I’m going with the simple explanation. Trump is being played for the fool he is, just like in the last turn he was President

He was pretty quick in the debate, wasn’t he?

I disagree, they are a huge economic threat. We are now at like $15k/year for public education and that is just the education piece. With the elderly we will get stuck with the medical expenses.

The families and elderly also pose a holding problem. Border patrol can house a bunch of men in a barrack style tent set up for months while they are vetted.

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I disagree, I would build it everywhere. Years ago there were some pretty scary setups found in the desert with evidence of children having been held in sheds and underground buckets made of plastic cisterns that had been buried. It’s the human trafficking that bothers me even more than the fentanyl and other drugs. I believe there are several times as many who have come in as what the .gov reports.

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