Simply attributing Copenhaver’s two injuries to the volley of shots 4–8 would avoid the “magic bullet” problem.
I still feel a bit confused about which shot hit the telehandler. Your common-sense assumption makes sense: shot 2 hit Dutch and then the telehandler does not sound right. That would suggest shot 3 hit the hydraulic pipe instead, but needs more evidence to back that.
So, from my perspective, the most plausible attribution is:
Shot 1: Trump’s ear – deflected off the bleachers railing
Shot 2: Dutch’s injury
Shot 3: Telehandler (hydraulic pipe)
Shots 4–8: Two injuries to Copenhaver and Comparatore
As you know, I prefer video evidence over testimony:
From the video, it’s clear that Copenhaver is still standing after shot 3, and he physically collapses only during the volley of shots 4–8.
I’ll go back and analyze shots 2 and 3 again to determine more precisely which one hit the pipe. Is there a chance you could consider that the shots which injured Copenhaver came from volley 4–8? If not, what makes you so convinced they must have been in the first three shots, despite his interview and his moving arm?
If we can agree that Copenhaver was injured in the 4–8 volley, then we’d have a shared understanding of all the impacts. Since your goal is to convince people on X, it’s important that we first reach internal agreement — otherwise, we risk not being taken seriously.
No you should say:
We know that shot 1 impacted the bleachers between 01:08.671 and 01:08.704. To determine when shot 1 grazed Trump’s ear, we subtract 24 milliseconds, giving us between 01:08.647 and 01:08.680. So it could be IN THE SAME frame or 1 frame earlier.
Not the best, since the camera was moving a little.
I tried to show the interframe changes. It should be improved - somehow.
Any “magic” idea to minimize the effect of sub-pixel motions?
Many participants in this forum struggle to accept that the first shot struck the corner of the bleachers. Some claim that Copenhaver’s arm was hit by the first shot, while others suggest the presence of a suppressed weapon—even though no such sound is detectable in any of the available audio recordings.
I am presenting clear forensic video evidence that the first shot grazed Trump’s ear before striking the bleachers’ corner.
At frame 1:18:704, the impact debris from the first shot becomes visible, especially against the white section of the banner, where the contrast makes it stand out.
At frame 1:18:662, you can observe distinct movement involving Trump’s ear. Based on calculations, subtracting 24 ms places us within approximately one frame of alignment between the ear impact and the bleacher corner impact. Even if we allow for a margin of one frame, the central conclusion remains unchanged: the first shot grazes Trump’s ear and then hits the bleachers.
When the sequence is viewed as an animation, this progression becomes much clearer and easier to follow:
Do you agree with this evidence, or is there a specific point that you find unconvincing?
Correct, NBC’s Tom Llamas and Feldman Brothers, attorneys, knew that was obvious, as was Dutch hit by Shot 2, and Copenhaver hit by Shot 3.
Gray pixels behind TOB’s butt: could be debris from Shot 1 hitting the black vinyl, and what was behind it.
Do you know what was behind the black vinyl?
Debris could be dust,dirt, black vinyl, copper, glass, or lead from the impact, about 4 feet Northeast of ToughOldBird.
Regarding the suppressed shots, heard by me and by Hercules2East, that could be proven beyond doubt to a judge and jury in a courtroom.
From your question and your other post, I understand that you acknowledge the impact from shot 1 hitting the corner of the bleachers at 1:18:662, but you are disputing the impact on Trump’s ear. Can we agree on that?"
You still haven’t provided any evidence of multiple independent audio recordings that capture your alleged suppressed shots. Here is one of the ten I can share, which clearly shows that only three shots were fired in the first volley:
Okay, we’re making progress. If shot 1 hit the corner of the bleachers, then it could not have struck Copenhaver’s arm, correct? And since you also agree that Trump’s ear was grazed—and it takes 24 ms from his ear to the bleachers corner—there are only two possibilities: either shot 1 grazed Trump’s ear at approximately 1:18:662, or it was shot 2 that did. Which of the two are you claiming?
Your shared images are just silent, like most of your bodycams.
Hercules2East told HSGA counsel he heard ‘endless’ shots(page 56, lines 16, 17) that were ‘suppressed’(page 57, line 3).
Never mind ‘suppressed’…how did ‘8’ enemy gunshots, with a total duration of 5.14 seconds, become ‘endless’?
And, instead of repeating the word, ‘endless’, why did HSGA counsel change the ‘subject’ from ‘endless’ to 'direction?
Answer: because he’s rotten, and lying, like yourself.
There is still no evidence of a suppressed shot in any of the 10–20 audio recordings available. I can easily provide at least five examples like this one, where only three shots (not four) are clearly identifiable:
What I am asking for is simple: please provide three clear audio recording graphs, comparable to the example above, that actually demonstrate a fourth, suppressed shot. Testimony alone is not enough. Multiple videos clearly show the first shot striking the corner of the bleachers; it could not also have struck Copenhaver’s arm. Yet instead of presenting graphical proof of four shots, you have relied entirely on eyewitness accounts.
Eyewitness testimony can be valuable when no video evidence exists, but that is not the case here. We have multiple videos from different angles all confirming that the first shot hit the corner of the bleachers. Simply inventing a suppressed fourth shot does not resolve this contradiction.
Until you provide three clear audio recording graphs that show a fourth, suppressed shot, your claim remains both unproven and unconvincing to me.
If the corner shot was 1st, then Trump/Copenhaver’s was 2nd, Dutch’s was 3rd, Copenhaver’s abdomen was 4th, exept 2 dozen shots had been fired before your designated ‘1st’.
all your ‘graphs’ are silent
my audible graphs, hearable by normal humans/animals/vegetables are ignored by you.
Copenhaver absolutely was hit by Shots 1 and 3, as Dutch was hit by Shot 2. NBC didn’t need Corey’s video to show that, yet you continue to deny
The shot that hit the corner was behind the back of corner man, and 45° offcourse…
