For me, if you look at my former messages, you will see that I think it’s shot 2 that hit Trump’s ear.
I think we’ve been nitpicking too much about what are really trivial differences.
There is a huge divide between those who think there was one shooter and those who think there were at least two.
With 9/11, the opposition narrative is starting to coalesce around building 7. (I personally think other aspects are MORE preposterous, but hey, if building 7 is what people gather round, so be it).
With JFK, the basic kernel is that Kennedy’s head wouldn’t snap backwards from a bullet fired from behind.
I think with this we should coalesce around the fact that a line from “Crooks” through Trump’s ear ends up several feet to the left of the corner of the bleacher, and there’s no way the wind or the contact with 1/4" of an ear is going to deflect a high speed round that much.
That said:
I could imagine that Mr. Copenhaver was shot in the abdomen perhaps at shot 4. He was bending over some before that, but seems to double over more at that point.
The problem is that he specifically said he was shot in the arm, said to his friend “I think I’ve been shot”, and was then shot in the abdomen. That just about has to put the arm injury earlier.
Hmm, maybe I need to move the Hercules 2 counter sniper’s testimony toward the top of my “to do” list.
I was thinking he specifically said he didn’t hear a report from the rifle at all. Maybe I was reading the House testimony.
Here he doesn’t say specifically, he’s kind of implying he heard a muffled report, but his words do allow for him to have heard no rifle report at all.
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Not easy reading, because a very few evidentiary words were buried under tons of useless questions, designed to discourage reading.
What was under/behind the black vinyl TV cover?
Both TVs are on flatbed truck trailers, with ‘containers’.
122104’s bodycam may show a ‘box’ structure, open at each end.
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Those vinyl covers both look to be pretty much empty, and open on one end. The south one has a door open in it as well, so one can see through it from one end to another. That’s got me kind of suspicious, that ONE of them has a door open and the other doesn’t.
I’m also suspicious that the TV on the north side was raised quite a bit higher than the TV on the south side.
I came across a video recently that showed how the door in the south cover is open so one could see right through to the barn from this angle:
This is from the big playlist ADudeYouKnow has. It was number 328 when I was looking last, but of course those numbers change all the time.
Here’s what the inside of the north one looks like, from John McCollough’s video:
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But if the exterior is metal cladding, under the vinyl, and south/southeast of ToughOldBird’s elbow, I’m ready to claim that Copenhaver’s arm bullet bounced off the metal, with fragments hitting ToughOldBird’s arm/elbow, and FlowerLady’s left arm(in Corey frames, TOB lifts right arm, FlowerLady rotates left shoulder North, Copenhaver’s arm is already moving, and the rail has already been hit ~1/2 second earlier):
I’m open to the idea that the covers had aluminum or steel ribs that, when the covers were compressed like they were, might be almost a solid barrier.
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The ear/arm shot also would be a glancing hit off metal cladding, and I think TOB’s elbow was hit by fragments of Shot 1, after facing a safer direction during the long gone rail impact shot.
Also, I think the North TV elevation gave Trump some protection from the Water Tower.
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This is an easy one to prove:
Download this YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ejfAkzjEhk
Add timestamps with the following command:
.\ffmpeg -i "Shots fired at Trump rally.mp4" -vf "drawtext=text='%{pts\:hms}':x=10:y=140:fontsize=24:fontcolor=yellow:box=1:boxcolor=black@0.5" -c:a copy "Shots fired at Trump rally with timestamps.mp4"
Add a waveform panel to the video with this command:
.\ffmpeg -i "Shots fired at Trump rally with timestamps.mp4" -filter_complex "[0:v]scale=1280:-2, pad=1280:ih+500:0:0:black[base]; [0:a]showwaves=s=1280x500:mode=line:colors=white[wf]; [base][wf]overlay=0:H-h[v]" -map "[v]" -map 0:a -c:v libx264 -pix_fmt yuv420p -c:a copy "Shots fired at Trump rally with timestamps and waveform.mp4"
Extract the most interesting frames from that video:
.\ffmpeg.exe -ss 00:00:36 -to 00:00:40 -i "Shots fired at Trump rally with timestamps and waveform.mp4" frame_10%04d.png
Shot 1:
- Looking frame by frame, we can see the crack of the first shot at 00:00:38.071.
- The boom follows at 00:00:38.305.
Shot 2:
- The crack of the second shot is visible at 00:00:38.906.
- At this point, Trump is already covering his ear with his hand, which makes it impossible for this shot to have struck his ear.
I have now clearly proven shot 1 hits Trumps ear and then impacts on top of the bleachers corner.
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- How did you ‘download’ a youtube video?(I had a youtube ‘premium’ account, which still kept the file in a youtube folder…not in a physical drive with me…and some here may not have ‘premium’ accounts…
- you didn’t need to prove Shot 1 to Trump
- Shot 1 also coincides with Copenhaver’s arm flip, both obvious from Corey’s video
- I can’t see the ‘dustball’ off the rail in Corey’s video, but you’ve shown it, with forwarded audio, in earlier videos.
- can you see the ‘dustball’, off the rail, in Corey’s video?
Sorry but I am unable to download your video with my tool Grab & Watch.
But I repeat for maybe the third time my reasoning after analysing Comperatore video:
The bullet takes 146 ms to travel from Crooks to Corey, then another 31 ms to reach Trump.
For shot 1, Corey’s crack is at 1:18.657, so 1:18.688 for Trump.
For shot 2, Corey’s crack is at 1:19.513, so 1:19.544 for Trump.
Trump begins raising his hand at 1:19 + 20 frames, or between 1:19.833 and 1:19.875, or about 1.2 seconds after shot 1 and 0.3 seconds after shot 2.
So 1.2 s reaction time seems very long so I think that is shot 2 that hits Trump’s ear.
I have done the same with PBSNews video and I find that:
Crack 2 at 8:37.341 and Trump begins to move his arm at 8:37 + 17 frames so about at 8:37.56 so about 0.22 s after.
I gave you a heart for the bulk of that post. Obviously I’m not convinced on the “and then impacts the bleachers” part.
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This might help you a bit. From RagTagVagabond’s video. I’m just amazed how clear that video is, considering how far away he was.
There’s roughly 8 feet from the corner to that post that’s used to hold the bleachers together when moving (two of which are circled in blue). Then there’s another 4 feet from the post to Mr. Copenhaver.
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Those witnesses that saw gunsmoke from the trees were pointing to the south, of course.
Iris Tao’s video (she’s not the one who recorded it though) has a woman in the area near Mr. Copenhaver and Mr. Dutch saying a bullet passed near her and it came from behind.
When there’s rock solid proof of a second shooter, I don’t think we should be dismissing first hand reports of other shooters out of hand.
We have two people in that video that flamecensor posted saying the shots came from the field to the south. The woman added that “they were so close”. This happened within a few minutes of shots happening. That counts for something!
The Hercules 2 countersniper is highly trained in recognizing gunfire, and he knew he would be facing a lot of pushback for his testimony. His testimony should not be dismissed either.
Mike Sulerud stated (on Collins’ video) that HE thought his vehicle was taking fire when they were pulling out from the barn. He stated that within 15 minutes of shots being fired. This is a SWAT guy, he knows what he is talking about.
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Do you have the whole RedTagVagabond video, to download? Thanks.
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I don’t have a video player that will let me count frames while listening (I’ll have to work on that), but it sure as hell looks like Trump’s hand is almost at his ear if not right there when the 2nd shot happens.
All the commercial videos (Fox, NTD, RSBN, NewsNation, ABC) are in agreement. I just checked Fox’s version, and I stopped right at hearing the first shot, did frame advance for 27 frames (30 per second) at which point his hand was at his ear. I then ran the video again - AND HEARD THE SECOND SHOT, both the snap and bang.
I am now considering you a person who is being paid to be a “lone nutter” - someone who will stick to that view no matter how strong the evidence is. You will say “who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?”
In the case of the clot shots, you’d say, “trust the science” to people who personally knew 3 relatives and 5 close friends and coworkers who died or were disabled within a week after taking the shots.
Go away, troll.
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Not for download, no. I keep a pretty extensive list of bookmarks, and hope the videos don’t go away.
Difficult to hear with extraneous noise, but big guy points North, saying “2 men shot.”
Thin guy, sunglasses, red singlet, I think, points East, even slightly toward the John Deere green tractor.
As I’ve typed before, Dayve’s phone heard 3 shots, sounding way North, as Trump was pushed into his car and driven away.
Also, I’m claiming that TOB and FlowerLady were hit, from behind(from South/Southeast) by fragments off of the ‘tvTrailerBox’, which is pictured again, in this “Where’s Katie?” video:
1st time I put a ‘timer’ into a video, but I played it, heard first ‘snap’, hit the spacebar to pause, and timer said:
00:01:19.162
Hit spacebar to continue, saw Trump’s hand reach ear, hit spacebar to pause, and timer said:
00:01:19.830
0.668 second to react sounds good reaction time for an 80 year old.
Also, a hypothetical shot from Crooks to Trump could only have sailed West of the corner, and Crooks had no chance to hit the corner anyway, because ToughOldBird would have been rogered.
ToughOldBird was injured, but not rogered.
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You’d be better off providing scientific arguments against what I’m saying rather than insulting me.
As for the passage about mRNA injections, know that I have been, from the beginning, a fierce opponent of these massive injections, the devastating side effects of which we are now seeing.
That’s the problem, by just listening you cannot be accurate because you have a reaction time.
I proceed like that and you can do the same:
I use Audacity to download the audio from a video. With it I can know very accurately the times of cracks and booms.
With QuickTime player I look at the video frame by frame and I count the frames following time marks (every second) and knowing the frame rate I can know the time with an uncertainty of 1 frame length.