To accurately determine the trajectory of a bullet, at least two points of impact are typically required. With that in mind, may I kindly ask you to clarify the following:
If you believe any of these were not the result of Shot 1, could you please indicate which shot you believe was responsible instead?
I pasted in Fox’s alleged phone view, aimed from the AGR1 southwest corner to Vent2 from West to podium to south bleachers and, from WHYY’s map, the line ends very close to David Dutch’s position:
Just to clarify, are you suggesting that the green line indicates Shot 1 did not strike President Trump’s ear and did not hit the corner of the bleachers?
2 points of impact? Duhhhh!
I’ll guess that you’re drunk.
And that you mean 2 points, one of the muzzle location and one of the impact.
A shot from Northeast preceded, by at least 1/4 second, the shot that hit DJT and Copenhaver’s arm.
Shot 2 hit Dutch, and maybe the JCB fluid.
Shot 3 is in Copenhaver, against his spine.
If you mean the green line in the WHYY Radio station sitemap, the south end of that green line is just my idea of the location of the PHONE used by Fox, in Fox’s alleged, “Copenhaver video”.
Just to ensure we’re understanding each other correctly, may I summarize your position as follows?
Is that accurate?
Also, if I may ask — in your view, which shot was responsible for the impact on the bleachers?
Shots 1,2,3 as you typed.
Rail impact shot…just as you see in the video I named 0.mp4, and from a video I named ‘railsmoke.mp4’ and the one I saw John Cullen show to Brett Weinstein on 20 July 2024, with Cullen telling Weinstein, “that’s why it had 6 million views on X”
Cullen claimed the rail impact was 0.001 second “early”…it’s clearly, to me, at least 1/4 second early, behind the back of ToughOldBird, and rolling southwest…not south…off of the rail top.
ToughOldBird’s reaction to Shot 1 could be because Copenhaver’s arm deflected Shot 1 into the black plastic jumbotron cover, just to TOB’s right…
A bullet smacking the plastic may have been his 2nd fright within one second.
(Once we delivered a quality control equioment for round producer.
There are two steps. They measure the force every time when pushing the bullet into the casings. Then there is a sampling method. Dunno how many samples they disassemble and weigh the bullet.)
Maybe this was discussed before, but the wound on Trump’s ear appears to be larger than might have been caused by .223 bullet.
So, according to your assessment, a total of four shots were fired:
However, all available audio recordings clearly capture only three shots. Even if one had been suppressed, it would still have produced a sound level of approximately 120 dB — comparable to a rock concert — making it virtually impossible to go unnoticed.
(Sorry, my internet was down for a while.)
8 frames is around 1/4 second. So it is too early for the next audible shot. I really think there is a deceptive another shooter.
I think they touched/grabbed the railings and they felt that hit propagating within the railing. But there was an interview with many spectators. Noone mentioned that. Most quickly collapsed someone in the middle - which is antinodal of wave reflexions.
That aligns with my findings as well. According to my research, Shots 1 through 3 were fired using .308 Winchester caliber rounds.
First time I didn’t believe the tree shooter theory. But now I think there is (at least one) another shooter.
Now comes the twist. There is an anekdot about post WW guerillas. Allegedly Tito said “If I had as many guerilles that time as I have now”. But it is advantageous to pretend after WW2 and enjoy the benefit. But it is disadvantageous that the deception to be visible. Nobody wants to pretend a deception, that’s bad.
The same bullet cannot hit Trump’s ear, Copenhaver’s arm and yet the railings corner. That’s a triangle, they do not line up.
Your hearing may have been damaged by too many rock concerts.
How many shots are ‘clearly captured’ on this audio recording?
Yes, but my 1 frame/second slideshow is a silent movie, and the rail’s top is hit at least 7 frames before Copenhaver’s arm starts to flip, which was when bullet one, from Baldy, on AGR4, hit Copenhaver’s arm.
For the time being I’m taking the view that I don’t know where any of the bullets actually came from. But I have a lot of opinions on where various bullets cannot have come from and are extremely unlikely to have come from.
A couple things I’ve been kicking around that I haven’t discussed with anyone/anything but Grok yet:
A bullet apparently travelled approximately 200 yards and pierced a 0.8" steel hydraulic line that has a thickness of 0.16". Grok is inclined to “think” that’s a tough shot for a basic FMJ .223 from a AR-15 with a 16" barrel, but is inclined to assume the bullet came from “Crooks” rifle, so it must have happened that way. Grok mentioned that bullets designed to penetrate lines like this generally have steel cores, or other cores that are made of very hard materials - not lead.
On the other hand, the bullet that hit Mr. Copenhaver in the abdomen apparently fragmented. He says that “the bullet” is still in his body, lodged next to his spine. Presumably the bullet didn’t hit any bones in his body before it hit his spine. (He’s lucky to be walking, IMO).
The bullet that hit Mr. Dutch (it does seem like he was only hit with one bullet) broke up ribs, plural. He described the rib pieces in an interview as being like a “bunch of tic-tacs”. He said the bullet fragmented. Some fragments remain in his body, at least one exited on its own.
Usually FMJ bullets stay in one piece unless they hit a more substantial bone than a rib.
Basically, the bullets that hit Mr. Dutch and Mr. Copenhaver acted like soft point or hollow point bullets, and the one that hit the hydraulic line acted like a penetrating round.
In Vincent Fusco’s film, Mr. Copenhaver said he had “proof” (almost certainly meaning proof of a second shooter) in his body. Whether that’s a larger caliber bullet, a different type of bullet from the basic copper/lead bullet the House committee said Crooks used, or if it’s a matter of the angle at which the bullet hit, I don’t know.
By the way we don’t know what kind of round “Crooks” used - full metal jacket, soft point or hollow point.
I may be way off, but I thought only the reservoir was hit, resulting in insufficient volume for the pump, and loss of lift.
Also, the metal ‘looks’ like aluminum, and “looks” less than 0.16"(4.064 mm).
I was going to re-post the photos I used to estimate the width of that line. I found a high definition picture of the same model telehandler, and looked up the height of the same model: 8’ 10"
I then ratioed the number of pixels to get the diameter of the line as approximately 0.8" the original size of the picture is 1324 by 1914 pixels.
Next, I tried to get the diameter of the bullet hole. That’s a little tough to estimate, but I’ll let you all work off this:
Next, for the thickness of the pipe, we have this:
You can look into what a pipe like that would be made of, but weight is not an issue with these machines; strength is issue.
I don’t know where the bullet that hit it would have come from. Based on the oil dispersal and the fact the bullet appears to have been going upward - that would mean it came from the third white tent from the south. But that doesn’t make any sense AT ALL.
