So It's Back To First Principles (Part 2)

Bloodtrail? You mean the line through Trump and Copenhaver?

So you’re saying Crooks’ position given in the figure is wrong? What do you base that one?

One other point. The position of the police cruiser just to the east of AGR6 would have made it impossible for it to record cracks from the roof of that building. All the rifle shots heard must have been booms.

I don’t think this affects your analysis much since it would just translate the booms you used by an additive constant.

I did. It seemed like to only way to determine the boom times for those two recorders that were in front of the muzzle, but very close in both proximity and line-of-fire. However, subsequently, I was able to find the NTD and “Don’t Run” recordings that were far enough from the shooter and far enough off-line for me to use just boom times for the analysis. So, that takes bullet velocity out of the picture. I wish I had figured that out a lot sooner. It would have save me a lot of time.

Is it possible that analysis can be done using just the crack-boom time differences and the known locations of stationary recorders? Is that the approach that you and @unhandyandy are working on? If so, it will be interesting to see what you come up with.

Keep in mind that smartphones are not designed to record extremely short-duration sounds like gunshot cracks. Whatever analog+digital filtering they employ is going to stretch that sound out a bit. For that reason, I always used the rising-edge of the cracks as my timestamp, not the peak amplitude.

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Here’s what I did for the Kirk shooting:

I did a similar analysis for shots 1 and 4 at Butler, and found the AGR6 was the most likely place of origin.

The raw file could be used to detect a fake. This applies to the bullet photo as well as to the blood on the hand photo.

In addition, the red liquid on his hand could also have been squeezed out by him with his hand from a very small bag hidden in his cap.

Again: It’s a big club

That makes perfect sense. It’s the same old trick that the elite have been pulling for centuries. They keep the population divided while controlling both sides. That way, the population is constantly distracted.

It’s a big show that earns tens of billions every year.

Isn’t it also possible that the audio compression results in the recorded leading edge coming early? I’m no audio expert, but I think the compression algorithm works on blocks of time.

I don’t consider your theory impossible, but you have to compare it in plausibility to the official theory, which in my mind wins handily. Of course there’s no arguing about what one finds “more plausible”, it’s ultimately a subjective judgement.

I’m impressed by the approach you took with your Kirk analysis. Well done, Andy. And when the boom times were unclear, you analyzed all the possibilities instead of just picking one. Nice.

That didn’t occur to me, so yes, I guess it’s possible.

If the NYT has evidence of a pro-Trump conspiracy, why wouldn’t they release it? You don’t think they’re in on it, do you?

Your videos were very well done too. That takes a lot of work. :slightly_smiling_face:

What is your expertise? It would be nice to have someone who’s actually expert in ballistics and acoustics.

Crooks’ position in the Taskforce drawing is wrong by meters.
I base that on:

  1. the bloodtrail of his dead body position
  2. seeing his 8x8 pale/blond pixels on a Dayve frame, less than 10 seconds before Trump’s ear shot
  3. videos from the West seem to confirm 1 and 2
  1. He had at least 10 seconds to move around after his last shot.
  2. I don’t think a single frame of Dayve’s shaky phone video can bear that much weight.
  3. Do you mean TNX and Source 4?

Radar signal analysis. That’s why I was familiar with TDOA measurement.

Are we the only two people here who think all the conspiracy talk about Butler is evidence of fevered imaginations rather than conspiracy?

Maybe Chris Mortenson has come round to that view.

That’s all I did with the 1 line calculator I wrote last year, but I cared only about the podium microphone, and finding only the range(distance), not direction or location, because that’s what Chris Martenson and John Cullen seemed to be doing.
So I didn’t know and couldn’t find a formula, but I made one that seemed to work, but I knew that muzzle velocities were being guessed, and no one was concerned about a slowing bullet.
In javascript, this is the distance calculating line:

d=ct/((1/vs)-(1/vb));

where ct was the time gap.
The whole javascript function was:

function C(tf){
vb=tf.vb.value;
ct=tf.ct.value;
vs=tf.vs.value;
ct=ct/100;
var d=ct/((1/vs)-(1/vb));
ct=d*((1/vs)-(1/vb));
//alert(ct);
y=d/3;
y=Math.round(y);
alert(“range: “+y+” yards;\nbullet speed: “+vb+” feet/second;\ntime gap: “+ct+” second”);
with(document.f){
vb.value=“”;
ct.value=“”;
vs.value=“”;
}
}

  1. he didn’t have a last shot, because he didn’t have a first shot
  2. Dayve’s video was very shaky, but single frames aren’t, and I can see that he was in line 1 roof valley west of the 2nd window(counting from east corner)
  3. I think so…I’ve never known Source 4 or TNX very well…

I hope you and greg_n are the only 2.
Two congressmen, Eli Crane(R Arizona) and Cory Mills(R Florida) have expressed concern about another small problem you 2 have:
A suppressed bullet hit the bleacher rail 1/4 second before Copenhaver’s arm flip(as you know, 0.03 second after Trump’s “ohhh!”).
That bullet was behind the back of cornerman Dan, whose body blocked ALL angles from AGR6.
The dustball rolling off the rail was 45° offcourse, headed southwest, not south.

I think it’s beneficial to ponder all of the conspiracy theories and then see whether the evidence fits them or not. But what I’ve see here is that many of the forum participants get a certain idea in their head and then that’s all that matters to them. No amount of persuasion helps, so I kind of gave up on trying.

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Could be beneficial to ponder the roof locations shown by most main stream media, before the body was found in the ‘wrong’ roof spot.
I added more pictures(Al Jazeera, CBS) this morning, but how could the Wall Street Journal and everyone get the shooter’s location so far wrong?
I think they had reporters on the south bleacher back rail that Saturday evening, looked north from the rail to the podium, and looked further north to AGR6, and then knew where 3 supersonic bullets were fired:

https://superfly.co.nz/j13/Butler_Farm_sitemaps.htm

Early news stories on events are notoriously unreliable. I have much more faith in an investigation that interviewed many witnesses and carefully sifted their reports.