Why shouldn’t the same bullet have hit Trump, Copenhaver, and the rail? You can’t assume Copenhaver’s reaction was instantaneous.
You’re right, and Copenhaver’s reflexes could have been slowed by 74 years, but I think they were quicker than 1/4 second(7 or 8 frames after the dustball exited southwest).
It wasn’t easy to form an angle between Copenhaver’s arm and the rail under Dan’s elbow, but I think the bullet couldn’t make that sharp turn from south to ~southwest.
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All news stories have become unreliable for me.
For example, Tucker with Sean Davis in January.
Sean pretended not to know that NBC was the interviewer(of Dutch and Copenhaver). Sean certainly knew it was NBC.
Sean told Tucker that, “…those 5 fast shots…were all way up high…”
Tucker could have asked, “so which 2 hit Copenhaver?”
but Tucker has never, in videos I’ve watched, mentioned Copenhaver…the victim with twice as much evidence…
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I think it’s telling that 16 months after the shooting, NOBODY has given a timeline of which shots went where. Not the FBI, not the Secret Service, not either Congressional committee, not the “independent” committee. Why? Because nothing works.
The only way to try to place the known impacts with a single shooter are to have:
1: Mr. Trump and back railing
2: David Dutch
3: South telehandler hydraulic line
Some combination of 4, 5, 7 and 8 : James Copenhaver first and second shots
6: Corey Comperatore
But it doesn’t work. James Copenhaver said he was hit in the arm first, said to his friend that he’d been shot and then was shot again. He clearly was hit in the abdomen no later than shot 4. Also, shots 4 and 8 were only separated by 0.78 seconds. Would a 73 year old man have time to realize he’d been shot and tell his friend that in 0.78 seconds? It took longer than that for ANY of the 6 Secret Service agents to realize shots were being fired.
And if the FBI, Secret Service or either Congressional branch puts out a timeline, then James Copenhaver can refute it.
I personally think shots 1 and 2 came from the “2nd gunman” who was likely either remotely operating a rifle in the vent to the right of the center window of AGR 6, or in one of the triangles at the front of the AGR 6 roof. That’s where backtracing the first bullet goes.
The telehandler spray seems to lead to a point in the trees north of the barns - the bullet passing between the center and north bleachers, just over the south bleachers and through the jumbotron cover.
I think “Crooks” possibly did shots 4-8, killing Corey Comperatore, and sending other shots over the crowd, although it seems weird, since those shots were fired so rapidly you would think they would be aimed fairly close to each other, and since they were aimed downward, would have hit other people since there was nothing but people to hit.
A sniper or remotely controlled rifle in the trees north of the barns could have harassed the Hercules 2 team, but there is the problem that the Hercules 2 East counter sniper said the shots were “endless”. It doesn’t make a lot of sense for that sniper to turn 20 degrees to his right to hit the hydraulic line while in the midst of harassing (or shooting at) the counter snipers.
Additionally, there are two videos where ordinary people say immediately after the shooting that there were shots from the south. A couple people even say they saw smoke from the trees to the south, and a lady in "Iris Tao"s video says the shots were very close and from behind.
The Hercules 1 counter sniper said in testimony that there were reports (right at the time) of a shooter on the water tower and so he focused on that for a brief period after shooting “Crooks”. Nobody has asked him where these reports came from.
That theory is just as crazy as the JFK “magic bullet” theory. Mr. Copenhaver has shown the scar on his arm. The bullet grazed it. Bullets don’t make a 45 degree turn after grazing 3 or 4 inches of skin.
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I think perhaps the US intelligence complex has started to put psyops people into message boards such as these.
Chris Martenson was persuaded to go radio silent, somehow. He NEVER said he was convinced there was only one shooter. He just stopped. He’s never even uttered a peep with the flap over the Tucker Carlson revelations. That’s definitely a dog that didn’t bark.
The fact that the FBI has produced not a damned thing under Trump’s presidency except an attempt to downplay Mr. Carlson’s revelations, and a flat statement that Crooks acted alone, is incredible. Absolutely incredible.
You’ve got Dan Bongino doing an abosolute 180 degree turn. in the Fox report, he actually said this:
But Bongino quoted a line from the movie “A Few Good Men.”
“No one is interested in guilt or innocence, they’re interested in someone to blame,” Bongino quoted. “The public is pissed off. We get it. We sympathize with you. It couldn’t have just been this guy — it couldn’t have just been this guy — it is. There is no reason I would tell you otherwise.”
What a sack of shit. Trying to impute motives to people that are looking at the evidence, noticing things don’t add up, and also noticing all the hallmarks of a coverup.
And I think YOU, unhandyandy, are an intelligence agency (or other agency) psyop.
I’m putting you on ignore now. You’ve wasted too damn much of my time. I’m trying to write a book.
Tucker Carlson’s revelation have shown that Crooks hated Trump and was violent. The FBI has not disputed this. Nobody has disputed this.
But you persist in greater and greater contortions that require, among other things, Mr. Trump to have magician like abilities.
You’re going on ignore too, and unlike before, I’ll make it permanent. The useful people have all gone from here, and it’s just time wasters. I need to work on my book. I need to just forget the whole damn website.
Where do I go for my paycheck?
In my opinion, everyone should demand that evidence that could clarify which theory is correct be made public.
This includes, for example, the raw file of Doug Mills’ bullet photo.
Or the dashcam recordings from the police cars that were parked east of AGR 6 in the parking lot.
Occam’s razor has always been unsuitable for solving criminal cases because intelligent criminals naturally try to pin their crimes on others. You simply have to expect that.
because you are a nice person
I made a mistake. It should be assumed that the bullets came from the north, but could also have been fired from up to 5 meters away from Thomas Crooks.
Is it still possible to calculate the shortest distance between the microphone and the trajectories?
If you spend enough time looking into the assassination attempt and learn all the important little details, you simply have to come to the logical conclusion that there were too many coincidences.
Another example:
Thomas Crooks member card number was 1133 and he shot the first shot at 18:11:33
Viewed in isolation, this could easily be dismissed as a coincidence, but when looking at the bigger picture, it becomes clear, at least to me, that this is the signature of the Freemasons (Deep State).
Do you remember that Kash Patel claimed that Tyler Robinson was arrested 33 hours after the assassination? In reality, it was significantly more hours.
Just another coincidence?
Trump did not faked it. He was part of it, but certainly not the producer or screenwriter. He is just another puppet.
Attempting to shoot a presidential candidate and most likely dying in the process is not a normal day.
When sacrificing one’s life to achieve a goal, most people think more than three times about whether they are doing the right thing.
The use of a rangefinder alone was already conspicuous.
And completely unnecessary, because Crooks could have easily measured distances with an offline map.
In my opinion, it was more important to give the public a reason to believe that the target had not been hit from that distance. With a telescopic sight, that would have been harder to believe.
Neither the NYT nor Doug Mills want to publish the raw file, otherwise they would have done so long ago.
If the official story is true, Trump should be interested in finding co-conspirators.
Experts stated that the probability of Doug Mills capturing the bullet with a photo was 1 in 1,000,000. That’s reason enough to have its authenticity verified.
But Trump still doesn’t want to do that.
I created a video compilation of an interview with Doug Mills, in which he wriggles like an eel to avoid showing the photo in its raw format. It’s funny and repulsive at the same time.
Trump called him David in an interview.
Could you determine from the frequency whether there is a crack audible on the TMX recording?
What did I not understand or misunderstand?
It is undisputed that Source 4 must have recorded the crack (as a normal sound wave of 90 dB) from AGR 9.
However, it is unclear to me, at least, how it must have been with a crack from AGR 6. Perhaps this crack should also be on this recording.
In my opinion, the bullet photo (Doug Mills) was faked. However, this can only be proven if the raw file of the photo (50 MB) is published. Michael Yon has suggested that a real bullet trace could have been recorded beforehand and then simply copied into the photo.
That would make the NYT a co-conspirator. Of course, it would not voluntarily publish such evidence.
But Trump could exert considerable pressure as president. However, he is not doing so.
The fact that all media outlets are in cahoots was very evident during the coronavirus crisis. They all spread the government’s bullshit.
I would be grateful if you could refute my theory.
At this point, I hardly feel like dealing with it anymore.
That is not hard evidence.
He just had to act a little and hold still for 30 seconds.
If he cannot be blackmailed.
If you go by Occam’s razor, the official story is more believable.
If you give more weight to explanatory power, my theory wins out.
I disagree completely, and don’t need Feldman Brothers’ legal deposition to know that Supersonic Shots 1 and 3 hit Copenhaver.
His mouth opens, his body folds, and his knees buckle, but watch his left eye, behind the sunglass lens, at the 6 second mark.
WARNING: graphic content.
You mean your theory that the first three shots came from AGR9, not AGR6? I’ve refuted it several times.
Here is one example: Post 940
And, finally, this result using only boom times, so we don’t have to guess anything about what ammo was used. Post 976
The audio evidence is quite conclusive. Shots 1 to 8 all emanated from the same place, and the roof of AGR6 is by far the most likely place.
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You and others have proven that the muzzle blasts came from Crooks.
I don’t dispute that.
But that doesn’t rule out the possibility that the first three bullets were fired from the AGR 9 building and that Crooks only fired rubber bullets for the first three shots, i.e., subsonic ammunition whose projectiles did not fly further than 100 meters. There was enough space between the two fences in front of Crooks.
To claim that you have proven that all eight shots were fired by Crooks is, in my opinion, too imprecise.
You have proven that 8 muzzle blasts occurred where Thomas Crooks was.
But why should that rule out the possibility that a total of 6 shots were fired during the first 3 shots? 3 by Thomas Crooks with rubber bullets and 3 from the AGR 9 building with supersonic bullets.
Technically, it would have been possible to time this precisely.
It would also have been technically possible to use a very large stationary suppressor to reduce the muzzle blast from AGR 9 to such an extent that when it reached Dayve Stewert’s microphone, it was only 40dB loud.
Can you refute this in any way?
It’s making my brain hurt to try to understand this theory of yours, but I think what you’re saying is that rifles on AGR6 and AGR9 were precisely synchronized via some RF-electro-mechanical system such that when shots 1-3 were fired, we only heard the muzzle blast from AGR6 (no crack), and we only heard the supersonic crack from AGR9 (no muzzle blast)? Wow, that’s pretty hard to believe. And what would be the purpose of such an elaborate scheme?
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MAGA will believe anything, they believe that Trump was saved by God.
We’ll have to agree to disagree. My MAGA sister thinks the NYT is a far-left rag. I’d put it center-left. I don’t think the editors have any sympathy for Trump.
No. According to
Mills’ camera was capable of taking pictures at a rate of 30 per sec. At that rate capturing the bullet would have been virtually certain. But even if he was just taking 1 per sec, the chance of capturing the bullet would be about 0.3%, about 3 in a 1000, not 1 in a million.
Can you link to it? I don’t have one with that name, although I might have it under another name.
But it didn’t.
OK, but I think you’re forgetting which team you’re playing for again. If the Deep State is so powerful, that makes your theory less likely, and the MAGA CTs more so.
Fair enough. I’ll take 1.
Multiplying hypotheses always increases explanatory power.
See? Even the few CTs left can’t agree with each other.
exactly
In your opinion, can this theory be refuted?
Michael Yon said that the assassination attempt was definitely staged. Was it staged to kill Trump or to let Trump survive?
I was just looking for a way that would have made the latter possible.
wrong
“Most cameras used to capture images of bullets in flight are using extremely high speed specialty cameras not normally utilized for regular photography, so catching a bullet on a side trajectory as seen in that photo would be a one in a million shot and nearly impossible to catch even if one knew the bullet was coming,” he said.
Michael Yon had never seen such a photo before, even though he is the most famous combat photographer.
TMX is another name for source 4
How can you determine that when the crack was only 90 dB loud when it reached the source, i.e., just as loud as Crooks’ muzzle blast?
And the difference between them was only 1 millisecond.
I think this is refuted by the fact that Source 4, if that’s the correct name, would have recorded cracks of shots fired from AGR9, but didn’t.
Show me the numbers. Here are mine.
Mills camera could take pictures with an exposure of 1/8000 sec. In that time, a bullet traveling at 2800 fps would travel only about 3-4". If we assume Mills camera was capturing a breadth of about 8’ around trump, it would take the bullet about 0.0028 sec to traverse that. So if Mills was taking 1 pic per sec (probably much too low), then he’d still have at least a 0.2% chance (I’m rounding down this time) of catching the bullet.
I don’t trust unnamed experts who don’t show their work.
Source 4 = TMX recorded only one sound for each of the three shots. Those sounds were low like a bang, not high like a crack.
If your theory is right, it should have picked up two sounds for each of the three shots, a crack from the AGR9 bullet and a bang from AGR6. It didn’t.
The police cruiser outside AGR6 also should have recorded cracks from AGR9 but didn’t.