So It's Back To First Principles

I am impressed by the fact that you visited and that you can rule out shots interfered with by the fence. Have asked about the fence repeatedly. Also you suspect the vents, very interesting. Can you tell if the flange edge on the vent is laying on top of the wall, built in or behind?

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I do not know the name of the sound analyst who made the statement, but the witnesses at the trees are at exactly the distance that was mentioned a couple of days ago

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did you visit my site?

Chris does NOT use the correct numbering that is compatible with the BCESU report of a couple of weeks ago…
AGR building 1 = what Chris calls building 6
AGR building 6 is the last number mentioned in the BCESU document (I wonder why :wink:
as the real shooter was on the high building between their AGR building 6 and the parking…
the real shooter was on top of the roof of that building 7

coordinates of real shooter: -79.970102° lon, 40.859032° lat, on top of that building…

unhindered direct line of sight with JCB hydraulic lift at -79.971142° lon, 40.856693° lat

and Trump in between at -79.971007° lon, 40.857008° lat

height of trump is podium of 1.2 meters + 3cm height of shoes + length of Trump

impact height on the JCB hydraulic lift is about 3 meters

elevation of the real shooter on the roof is about 9m

the sound and bullet travel times are mentioned on my website.
take my username, append .com and have a look.

I have to go now. cu back in a couple of hours.

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I believe Chris used AGR’s building numbers.

The difference in heights is not that much of a downhill shot. The given measured distance is the Hypotenuse of a right triangle. The effective distance is the bottom leg of that triangle.

Begging the question.

Here, I took a shot ( :wink:) at the math that you seem too shy to do.

You say the shot was about 237m, and that the round might have been traveling at about 869m/s. So the slug takes ~0.2727s to arrive. The speed of sound on that day was apparently ~351.18m/s, so the report would take ~0.6748s to arrive. So in the recording of Trump’s mic, we should hear the report 0.4021s after the crack. Did I do that right? If so, is that what we actually see in the audio data? I don’t remember, I’ll have to go back and look.

Edit: doesn’t seem like it at first glance. But if I’m wrong, just tell me, I sincerely want to know. https://youtu.be/LouUbMYb7Bc?t=435

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Chris, would you please set up a Data Room with primary materials like videos and text messages? Thank you for your enormous efforts here.

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We definitely don’t have everything as organized as we should, but here’s a bunch of stuff. Dropbox

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Wow! Thank you. I was actually looking for the text messages…

I think this is the best source for texts I know of. ICYMI: Grassley Oversight Unveils ‘Most Detailed Picture Yet’ of Trump Assassination Attempt

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The blue circle on my image is the position of the wall vent. Crooks was almost directly above it +/- three feet.

Here is an image I was able to pull from the internet of the vent(s). This would be the vent on the far left of the building in relation to my image. Not the vent I have circled. All the vents are not the same, however. This image better shows the vent clearance (above fence/people), vent type, vent height, window height, fence in the foreground, and how people could interfere with the sight picture from the window.

I’m not claiming there was a shooter behind the vent but after visiting the site it appeared to be a much better option than the lower windows and should be further investigated. Plus, a vent lines up almost directly below Crooks.
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From what I can tell by the photo it looks like an opportunity for a shot to be made, but the difficulty of shooting through a narrow slot could explain the near misses is what I am thinking :thinking:

Reviewing the texts, the sniper that planned to leave early at 4:00 pm but stuck around seems strange to me. If the below are his texts, he is leaving the lot at 4:26. Then he sends another text at 5:52. Throwing shade here, but he could be setting up an alibi.

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Thanks for that link. One thing that stands out so far is in the ESU Briefing plan, page 6.

Pdf link

In that plan, Trump was suppose to leave at 1615, which is pretty close to the time he did leave. Trump was suppose to talk for 75 minuets, but that did not happen. Does anyone know what the reason why Trump was running late that day?

With the way things turned out, the plan got back on track.

Hi howdoiknowthisinfo,

Thanks for your input and welcome. I do agree with your XZ angle. I get the same on my model (see screenshot below) but where I think you a completely off is with the vertical plane Y see 2nd screenshot. According to our research team here at peak prosperity both heights (Trumps ear and the corner of the blister) are the same height (within a couple of inches) That means the shot is not descending and not ascending, it is straight. Below you can see how we achieved the heights according to our Excel table. Please indicate the heights of the two elements you are using (Trumps ear and the corner of the blister). I would be curious to analyse your numbers.

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Going back to first principles? I like this approach.

Look at Trump’s right hand position in the three attached images.

The first image is famous Doug Mills photo of a bullet passing by Trump:

The second image is a screenshot taken at the time where the first supersonic shockwave can be heard on the video:
First supersonic shockwave

The third image is a screenshot taken at the time where the second supersonic shockwave can be heard on the video:
Second supersonic shockwave

A supersonic shockwave heard from Trump’s microphone indicates the moment at which a bullet passes by Trump’s microphone. Hence, the second image is the moment at which the first bullet passes by Trump’s microphone and respectively the third image is the audio signature for the second bullet.

Now, based on Trump’s right hand position, can you tell me which bullet Doug Mills photo has captured? The first or the second? It can’t be the third or following bullets as Trump has already ducked under the stand by then.

Yes, you’re correct it can be neither of them as the first image depicts Trump’s right hand mid-air while the second image has it on the stand and the third on his ear. You can verify for yourself that I took the screenshots of the video at the correct time by slowing down the video and pausing at the sound of the supersonic shockwaves: youtu.be/JW3X-nmHKmM

This means that one of the following is true:

  • Doug Mills photo was tampered with and a bullet was added to it.
  • The sound of the supersonic shockwaves was simulated to Trump’s microphone.
  • Both of the hypothesis above are true.

What we know for sure is that Doug Mills photo and the supersonic shockwaves signature can’t be both authentic.

If you’re not incorporating this fact to your interpretation of the event then, you’re not operating from first principles.

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It can’t be the second bullet either because Trump has his hand on his ear when the sound of the second supersonic shockwave is heard.

Doug’s image would be bullet #2 (passes ahead of sound)
Notice he is in a grimace and in process of pulling his hand up to ear from result of bullet 1
I do wonder if Doug was lucky, uses special camera, or…?
Professional photographer inputs needed.

In this case, how do you explain that Trump’s right hand is on his ear when the sound of the supersonic shockwave is heard?