There is video from the side of the building by one of the visitors who recorded when he was crawling and I could easly see he is wearing short pants. I think this subject is already closed and explained on YT on some video reporters
This is how we do science. Well done. Good catch.
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One of the shots took out the large fork lift holding up the Speakers opposite of Trump from Crooks. Not sure which shot hit the forklift, but Dan Bongino reported that when the bullet hit the fork lift, the hydaulic fluid sprayed the motorcade which caused delay in getting him off the podium and there was a small explosion or bang. The speakers the fork lift were holding up are heavy and the dropping of the fork lift boom holding up the speakers could have been the small explosion or boom heard in the audio
I, too, am an experienced shooter and proud owner of a Bushmaster M-2, and I agree with you 100%. The gun doesn’t eject spent brass in the forward direction!
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Can anyone confirm how they ID’d the shooter so quickly? Initial reports said they found his ID in his car, the Redacted New video posted above Clayton states his car was a van.
If they found his ID in a van 10 miles away, i assume he rode the bike in question. How did they ID him so quickly after the shooting if they had to locate the van? how did they know it was his van so quickly?
I am really not sure. Watch from min 2:30 to min 2:45 here - Bitchute. Did the SS counter sniper shoot 3 times or flinch 3 times? If he did shoot, then it would make no sense that he missed, and since Crooks has now taken a bullet to the head, that would leave only the 2nd and more shooters analysis of all following bullets.
I think this point has been made before, but it bears repeating:
With 12+ microphones (i.e., recording mobile phones) randomly positioned around the buildings and Trump, and with locations fairly well described, it’s possible to use Time Difference Of Arrival tools (“ShotSpotter”, at a smaller scale) to get a very accurate estimate of the source of each gunshot (to within a 1 meter radius).
Even without doing any fancy math, with multiple sound tracks it should at the very least be possible, by comparing the relative timing of each sound, to determine which shots came from the same (rough) locations, and which came from different ones.
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Gates are a common element of the live sound toolkit. Usually they just stay in the rack for whatever gig. Even for vocal only events, they are super helpful to eliminate hiss and other background noise when the speaker has a long pause or waiting to come onstage.
Crack-boom 0,77 sec in round 7
According to Mike Adams’ analysis (I think of the sound clip from Trump’s mic), round 7 timeframe between crack-boom is 0,77 sec which is an estimated 1386 feet distance from gun, consistant with distance from Trump to water tower.
I havent heard Chris comment on this in his videos, I reccon some have watched Mike Adams’ video?
It would be great if anyone could comment this, cause many people refer to Mike Adams’ analysis, it seems pretty solid.
Clip Mike Adams starts from 32:45
I guess this would be a natural next step, to document with visual data as well as audio data which shots hit whom/what. So here I try to make a small contribution in this direction.
It appears to me that it is shot #1 that hits Trump’s ear, but I am not sure. In the viral video of Trump, he starts lifting his hand to ear before shot #2 rings; however, the ring of shot #2 in the video is probably the report that arrives .22 later, so by that time shot #2 could have already hit Trump’s ear and prompted his reaction … I’m not sure).
Let’s leave open the possibility that Trump’s ear was hit by shot #1 or #2. I now add video evidence of the first shot’s endpoint, which is the railing of the bleachers to Trump’s left. Specifically, from this video montage by Jeff Ostroff, at 15:05-10, one sees from a nice angle that shot #1 hit the railing near the back corner of the bleacher (puff at or near corner), and (I am pretty sure) it is only later shot #2 that hits the senior with the American flag draped.
Suppose it was shot #1 that hit Trump. If it came from Crooks, then the following line from Crooks’ position of death to the puff on the bleacher’s corner is drawn from the NYT aerial image to Crooks (higher res):
Note how the line is too forward of where Trump’s ear would have been; it is almost outside Trump’s stage, whereas it would have to be behind Trump’s podium to hit his ear. This suggests to me that either (A) it was not shot #1 that hit Trump, or (B) if it was, the shots 1-3 came from a spot on the AGR roof on the other side of the connecting corridor, several feet away from where Crooks died (if indeed the shot came from the roof). It’s conceivable that Crooks could have taken 1-3 closer to the edge of the roof, and moved several feet to his right and taken 4-8 where he died. But in your spreadsheet of timings, 2.603 seconds separate #3 from #4, and Crooks imo could not have managed to move to his right several feet and resighted to end up where he died in 2.603 seconds. So the conclusion under the starting supposition is that: if Crooks fired #1 he was not where he died (contradicts above line); if Crooks fired 4-8 then he did not fire #1 (2.603 s too little to move so much).
Now suppose it was shot #2 that hit Trump. If it came from Crooks, then the consider the following line from Crooks’ position of death to American Flagman on the bleacher (higher res):
That line seems much closer to where Trump’s ear would have been behind the podium.
To sum up the deductions and parsing of suppositions, on the basis of this limited evidence (there is much more to bring) the above two paragraphs indicate that either it was shot #2 that hit Trump’s ear (and the audio we experience is delayed relative to his reaction), or it was shot #1 that hit Trumps’ ear but then Crooks did not take all of shots 1-8 (too little time to shoot #3, move several feet right and resight and then take #4, given above lines). My 2 cents for now.
Btw, either of these lines, which combine two videos and your audio analysis, discredit John Cullen’s line from that puff to the water tower/tree canopies. I stand corrected. I realize the importance of combining evidence. So I will start incorporating images and videos to your audio analysis.
Here is an image of Trump’s podium, clearly not so close to the front edge, and making the first line as going through his ear unlikely:
Think with a logical mind… Trump was crushing Biden in the polls. So much so that the dems were begging him to drop out. Why would Trump have to even risk a stupid stunt like you’re suggesting? That’s the kind of things desperate people do. Desperate people also attempt assassinations.
And do you really think the deep state would let him get away with that for this long? And the SS Director would resign in shame for him? Good grief!
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I think the sniper flinches when he sees a shooter in the window. We know he can’t see Crooks… so what/who did he see in his scope that seemed to visibly shake him?
Here’s a puzzle: 5 shell casings were so close to the right and above Crooks’ head as of his position of death, and 3 shell casings apparently farther to the right and some over the ridge. (See LEO in Grassley video 3 at 12:39 pointing beyond the ridge, far to the right of Crooks’ body). What story is consistent with this dispersion of shell casings and the lapse between shots as recorded in audio? (See Chris’ spreadsheet.)
Here’s one story that is consistent:
- Crooks fires 1-3 with his hand resting on the roof’s ridge for maximum stability, and thus gets his most accurate and deliberate shots, clipping Trump at 6:11:333. Those shell casings eject to his right, some/all past the ridge.
- Crooks noticed that, unbeknown to him, sniper team 2 already had turned at 6:10:00 to face AGR (it turned at 6:10:00 while Crooks had been shimmying very back on the roof into position). This change is a surprise to him, based on his prior casing of the grounds, when sniper team 2 had been facing north and away from AGR.
- Surprised at team 2’s facing him and full view of his head, Crooks panics and realizes he must act fast to protect himself - he can no longer stay so close to roof’s ridge.
- Accordingly, Crooks in 2.6 seconds moves leftward to try to exploit the tree that was blocking sniper team 1’s view and perhaps also now block team 2’s view, and also down for cover. He then fires off shots 4-8 quickly given his panic. Consequently, shell casings of 4-8 end up both to the left of shell casings 1-3 and on his side of the roof’s ridge (as in Grassley’s video).
- Crooks realizes he must stop shooting and escape fast, especially if he realizes that the tree still does not block sniper team 2. He decides to return to where he had come from, the corner of the roof to his right and behind. (That’s what the TMZ video indicates he came from before shooting.)
- As he crawls downward and rightward, he approaches shell casings 4-8, which eventually would be found close to and above his head (given his defensive slide back)
- In the ~10 seconds between shot 8 and 10, Crooks is making these escape decisions and shimmying rightward, with his left elbow on the roof pushing him rightward (his left hip is contacting the roof but his right hip is upward so that he can hold his rifle with the right hand and away from the roof’s surface).
- Sniper team 2’s shot #10 hits his forehead above left eye and exits behind right ear, consistent with his rightward and upward orientation of body in (7).
- His head collapses and body ends up as found, just sort of reaching shells 4-8:
This story does not explain shot #9, or the apparent holes he has just above and below his right knee.
Addendum: A variation that explains more of the data. Shots 1-3 from 1st floor window, shots 4-8 from Crooks on the roof ridge. Shell casings 4-8 fly right and back a bit, not forward, stay close to ridge. As Crooks starts his escape by turning right and to scoot back and doen the roof, AGR 2nd floor local sniper sticks his head out the window and shoots at Crooks and hits him on knee, Crooks already rightly oriented threatens local sniper with his rifle … hence no more shots for 10 seconds as 2nd floor local sniper takes cover. As Crooks scoots down and right to escape (and gets closer to shells 4-8), SS team 2 shoots his head. In the 30 minutes ensuing, someone (SS?) plants three shell casings in the area to cover that shots 1-3 came from the 1st floor, and unrealistically puts some of those over the roof ridge. The 2nd floor local sniper may not have known of the plot. In Grassley video 2, there indeed are a SS agent both in first floor and another on the roof (talking on phone rather than dealing with Crooks) before local ESU in green camo arrive.
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Indeed. It’s conceivable that shots 1-3 came from the window beneath and to the right of Crooks (referenced by Chris, I think), and shots 4-8 came from Crooks. Visual forensics would have trouble differentiating the yellow line originating from Crooks’ position at death, and the red line originating from that window, both targeting Trump’s position as shown below. This near coincidence of lines would provide cover for the would-be assassin inside that window.
The yellow and red lines were drawn to intersect at where I estimate Trump’s head stood in front of the podium, to leave open the possibility that shot #1 came from either origin. (In fact, it came from not both.) It extends to about the top corner of the far bleacher, where other videos show a puff. (See puff on railing within 12:05-12:10 in this video by Jeff Ostroff.)
Chris’ audio forensics of 1-3 being more muffled and less echo-y than 4-8 are consistent with 1-3 coming from inside the window.
To elaborate on this hypothesis of patsy Crooks as a cover for that window, why would the deep state bother to have a shooter other than Crooks? Because Crooks was not a pro and would be using a 1x red dot. The deep state may have asked Crooks to position himself exactly on the spot where he died, and to wait to hear one shot from the window as a signal to let off his own shots. A more professional shooter with a scope would have planned a single kill shot from the window.
A bit of further evidence for 1-3 coming from that window is that shots 1 and 2 hit close to the top corner of the farthest bleacher. Since those shots were aimed at Trump but also ended up higher than Trump at the top of said bleacher, this must mean that they originated from below Trump - thus not from the roof! (Can this last observation be considered a definite, that 1-3 could not have come from the roof?)
One could object, how could a pro shooter with a scope and the advantage of surprise miss? Well, Trump got lucky with shot #1 when he turned his head toward the jumbotron. That shot of ~450 ft took about .15 seconds at 2900 ft/s to hit Trump (assuming it was that shot). Going by Chris’ audio analysis, since shot 2 was .857 sec later than shot 1, in those .707 secs that the shooter had to shoot after the unexpected miss, it took him a moment to process the miss and realize SS was about to jump in, so he decided to shoot again (single kill shot failed), but by then Trump was moving his head in reaction, so shot 2 was under poor and unexpected conditions and thus missed. Shot 3 rang .678 later at 1.535, very consistent with the .707 above, just a bit sooner as the sniper was not surprised in going from 2 to 3 as he must have been in going from 1 to 2. But by then Trump was crouching down, and shot 3 naturally missed, despite the sniper’s skill.
Though Crooks was supposed to shoot right after the would-be single kill shot and draw attention to himself (maybe unbeknown to him), he choked a bit and started about 4 seconds late, and rushed a bunch of shots (4-8), which were far less precise than 1-3 (hitting Comperatore, etc).
This is consistent with the trajectories of 1-3, the order and character of different shot sounds, the pace and grouping in time of 1-3 vs 4-8.
But 8 shell casings were reported on the roof, one could object. We have no video of LEO’s arrival on the roof, so far. Grassley video 2 at 18:31:46 first refers to 5 shell casings, not 8. Only in Grassley video 3 at ~19:01:50 or 30 minutes later is there a first mention of 8 shell casings. Well, in those 30 minutes the deep state could have planted 3 extra shell casings, which is the number of shots fired from the window below, under the standing hypothesis. Perfectly consistent. Maybe it was suited man at the start of video 2 seen on the phone on a different roof who was getting instructions on how to clean up the scene for patsy Crooks.
All that said, Crooks could well have believed that he was going to shoot and kill Trump to save democracy and become the imagined hero to his country, damned the legal consequences, maybe even die in glory, rather than live on unsatisfyingly as a smug (1:05-2:00) book smart incel working at Bethel Park Skilled Nursing and Rehab Center after years of having been bullied in high school (article) and with (in his sad mind) poor prospects of a brighter future.
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Tell me if I’m off base.
Youtube: ABC news "Secret Service rushes Trump off stage at Pennsylvania rally
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENIkHL10iZs)
pay attention to the 3 secret service on the right side of the screen at 0:26 into the video and the heads turning towards the gunshot going off at the same time.
Youtube: ITELL INTEL “Cameraman Shooter Trump Rally J13 (blurry video)”(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aebTutaD-Bk)
at 2:40 into the video the we have a view of the 3 secret service struggling with the camera man being referenced during the entire video.
Kind regard.
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I will address your comment about the shell casings across the roof and then take a break. Hope to hear that the Lone Wolf narrative is busted wide open on the News, otherwise, getting the impression of controlled opposition.
The longer a LIE is allowed to be repeated the greater the chance it becomes the “TRUTH.”
PLUS the Demonrats/Deep State will always force and want control of the News cycle. They learned from 2016 that Trump dominates that space, if left unchecked.
So we are going to keep getting a barrage of Kamala, abortion “rights”, trans right with Olympics, Free Palestine, Flood Ukraine with cash, climate change, etc…
This assassination attempt the state run media is going to keep pushing to the backburner…Just what they do.
And I noticed right away that you couldn’t have gotten a better roof top ridge, if you had requested it.
Flat, level, smooth, large, etc, only thing better would be to add a sandbag.
Bottomline though the shell casings should have been several feet to the right of Crooks and further down the roof that he was on especially if he ever left the prone position.
The problem with casings being across the roof or even near the ridge cap is the roofs orientation to Trump. While one would like to place the rifle perpendicular to the ridge it is geometrically impossible.
The rifle would be pointing too far to the Left. Unless you plan to bank your shots like you are playing pool, which I have done a few times for fun, you have to position the gun across the ridge cap in an angle. Just how it works. And with all the ARs that I have owned and shot, the ejection pattern is predominately several feet to the right and back. Just physics and the way the bolt carrier group is designed. The casing is creating momentum as it is moving backwards as the shell recycling process is started.
I see only 2 challenges for why the casings aren’t more tightly grouped and that is due to the raised metal ribs and the actual orientation of the casing, as it contacts the metal roof. Both might cause some odd hops compared to shooting on the lawn. I have a similar roof on one of my barns, so I will test when I return from the coast to my ranch no later than September.
Plus I have never seen a video that shows Crooks actually shooting from the ridge cap, he has always been back away from moving the casings even further back.
But before at least I completely rule out the possibility of any casings going forward from my experience I consider 3 factors: wind, deflection and overgassing.
I rule out wind due to watching things like the flags. Looks to be from the West and intermittent, which wouldn’t carry across the ridge. Next is there anything near him to the right to detect casings forward. Unless he has an invisible spotter than Nope.
So we are left to overgassing, which can happen, but without seeing any casing travel or the gun can’t completely rule out.
Still the location of the casings look way off even with wild hops. Unfortunately, can’t inspect the roof to see if one could detect the casings deflecting off the roof. Since the roof was so dirty, I imagine one could find where the casings originally contacted the roof and closely inspect that where the casings rested seemed logical/reasonable.
As I head to go boating and fishing, some tips to the deceased Crooks, who I seriously despise, you got played and don’t show up with shiny hair, glasses, uncovered scope and a ghost like face. You were already a patsy without those issues.Bullseye Biden.
RIP COREY COMPERATORE 
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Hi there, amazing work you are doing, Can anyone see this video about audio analysis done by some guy… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz_LpsZfLEA
greetings from Norway.
We still have that bugaboo issue of 4-8 shots being at “pro-level” speed. Even if the shooter went to the range frequently to gain weapon familiarity, why would he tend to practice- and become proficient at- rapid fire? And if he did in fact fire those shots, I guess that dispels the “you’re on a training mission” scenario.
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US Secret Service seems to use two, based on an article covering Trump’s church photo op in DC in 2020:
- For very long range, a bolt-action based on an Accuracy International chassis and "most likely chambered in .300 Winchester Magnum or .338 Lapua Magnum.
- For medium distance, “an SR-25 pattern semi-automatic rifle. This weapon, chambered in .308 Winchester …”
Given SS sniper teams 1,2 were <150 yards from AGR, it’s possible the shot that killed Crooks was a 308 round. Perhaps this would explain the lack of splatter of brain matter?
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