GN seems so relaxed when he exists AGR 6 (while others either have guns drawn or nervous body language, afraid of multiple shooters or that “lone shooter” was still a threat). He’d know the only shooters were his buddy and neutralized Crooks.
GN rushed to be first to get back in the building, when door was opened, even though he was not closest to the door. He might have wanted to check his buddy had taken down the sniper’s nest and/or finished cleaning his cut.
And who opened the door to let GN back in, in this dashcam? Could it be his sniper buddy?
I assess it much differently. I don’t think this cop really thought there was actually a man with a gun on the roof. He got the call at 6pm and drove across town arriving at 6:08 and boosting up at 6:09.
Think about that level of confusion he must have had, having now been 9 minutes and no other cops are around doing anything about this situation. I think he’d be wondering the entire spectrum, whether this is a prank on him, or someone with a large camera getting pictures, or a training simulation, or a plain clothes SS counter sniper and there’s just LEO confusion on who he is, or something other than the real deal because he’d expect if this was real then cops would be stopping him.
I do not think he really expected to see a man with a gun point it at him. That explains why he runs around a bit crazy and erratic, trying to figure it out, yelling warnings at people to “get out of the way,” sending radio traffic, etc.
I do NOT think he was in on the plot, hence he would not have come across town to put his finger prints on it or interfere. I think he’s a legit cop who got a radio call and responded but had no idea how to react.
Now, now. You forgot the first sentence and the last two sentences of my post. Those three sentences were bookends to what you copied, and clearly point to my post being an exercise in looking at things from different perspectives.
Someone posted that the boost cop was the LT for the Butler town Po-Po. Which would explain the take charge attitude he showed.
As for head popping up. Sometimes there is no good way to ‘pie’ a corner and you have to use a quick in-out peak. If so you don’t use the exact same spot twice. I can except Crooks looked at him, not so much pointing the rifle at him. Thats 180 degrees out of his pointing towards Trump.
If Crooks’ gun was pointing at the cop pulling himself onto the roof, is it really plausible that within the next 30 seconds or so he had time - and calmness! - to reorient his gun by 180 degrees and fire quite accurately toward Trump? Wouldn’t Crooks have been kind of shaken up by being almost apprehended from behind?
I’m really unimpressed with jeffostroff’s work. He’s always talking down about “conspiracy theorists”, but I’ve never heard him admit fault or give credit where it’s due when it turns out that the “theorists” were correct. In this video he seems to just be repeating the official story.
There is something about his voice and the way he talks, that is fingernails on the chalkboard to me. I can’t quite put my finger on what it is. Just hard for me to listen to.
exactly right and perfectly in line with what I have been explaining over the past days too!
EVIDENCE and EXPERTISE @cmartenson Chris, could you have a look at the posts I made the past few days in which I clearly show that there is a direct line of sight from the higher building behind crooks that has very similar bullet trajectories as those should they have been fired by crooks!
I’ve slept on it and i’ve read all the posts from everyone. Many folks think the cop who was hoisted up did his best. I think my hang up with the “hoisting” is that it didnt make sense to pop your head up. Upon further review and a lot of perspective from you guys, I can now see clearly.
The cop in the neighborhood had very little info.
He went over to check the AGR building not really believing that there would be a shooter on the roof. thats why he popped his head up
he ran to the back of the building to pop his head up, saw the shooter, and he ran around the building to see if he could see the shooter from another vantage point. If he sees the shooter from the "rally side " of the building he could potentially take a shot without shooting into the crowd.
he couldnt see crooks when he went to the “rally side” but he told people get out of the way-so he was saving people close by
i’ve argued that he couldve fired warning shots. I think he thought he was out of bounds. How is he going to come from a neighborhood and then start firing shots (even into the ground)? It’s too big of a risk! he wasnt even on rally detail. He would only fire a shot as a last resort because the crowd might stampede, maybe the guy on the roof was LEO etc. Too many unknowns.
if the cop who hoisted up is legit, then we focus on everyone who was on site walking around doing nothing. there is a problem if a guy has to drive up 8 min away and get involved. the rally was crawling with cops.
if the hoisted cop story is real, then it brings a large microscope on people who were in and around building 6.
Intolerance, Vegas, Big Tim and all others thanks for your imput.
Agreed. I had initially mis-placed negative thoughts on this cop until I had a larger picture. He came from across town 8 minutes away by car, and yet somehow was the “first responder.” It’s almost too hard to understand as I sit here with 4 weeks to think about it. I can’t imagine rolling up to a scene 8 minutes after the radio call, that SHOULD HAVE LONG BEEN RESOLVED with dozens of cops in the immediate vicinity to find oneself as the ‘first responder.’ It would be disorientating and confusing, like WTF is going on!!! And then having about a minute or less to solve this deadly field problem when confused, scared, worried, frustrated, and having no idea why nobody has already responded to this.
So in that light I give this guy a lot of slack because the Crooks field problem should have been resolved long before he arrived to find it unresolved and a murder and attempted assassination in progress and nobody doing anything about it.
That to me strikes as the local cops and SS were MIHOP and LIHOP with a lot of incompetence and indifference. Every local and SS and law enforcement needs to be under heavy scrutiny for their actions and inactions that day. I’d also pull their voting records and social media posts regarding politics, the J6 prosecutions, the 2020 election, etc. to uncover any hatred or bias.
Shortly after the Stewart video focuses on that ESU officer it scans to the right and the red vehicle is several feet away. Here is an aerial view showing about where he was based on the Stewart video. The other image of him right before the shots has him in pretty much the same spot. I highly doubt the red vehicle came into play for this guy.
One thing that has bothered me about the officer that was lifted to the roof was that he saw (he says) the shooter next to the book bag it would have been a mere) 38 seconds before the shots rang out. From the west side video of the shooter on the roof, he is already moving up the roof line and away from the book bag long before that time.
I find it hard to believe that he made almost no progress towards the top of the roof in 20 or 30 seconds (perhaps the officer who was lifted to the roof merely misstated that he was close to the book bag or) perhaps from his angle, the shooter looked close to the book bag.
The other thing that has always bothered me is if the shooter really was just close to the book bag 38 seconds before shots ring out, could he really have climbed to the top of the roof and steady himself to really take those three shots; that always trouble me. I would think that he probably would’ve been in such a panic seeing the officer that his nerves would not have allowed him to get to the top of the roof and steady himself to take three relatively conservatively timed shots at the president. I find it Much more likely that he took the five shots still in a panic and only those five shots. Obviously all this is speculation.
I would agree with you, other than the fact that the video of him just as shot one is fired shows him in a pretty stable firing position, ready to take his shots. I don’t believe he fired shots 1-3.
